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Old January 14th, 2014, 06:37 AM   #261
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333 Fremont St. is rather awful looking.
Yeah it's not great looking, but it'll look better once the giant blank walls on the side are covered up by 399 Fremont.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 07:31 AM   #262
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Old January 14th, 2014, 07:47 AM   #263
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333 Fremont St. is rather awful looking. The Lennar development planned for Hunter's Point Shipyard looks promising and ambitious and hopefully successful.
Be aware that when the block is built out, only the street-facing side of 333 will be visible. The other side seen above will have a building next to it which is why the big blank walls exist (except in the set-back portion).
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Old January 14th, 2014, 05:44 PM   #264
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Be aware that when the block is built out, only the street-facing side of 333 will be visible. The other side seen above will have a building next to it which is why the big blank walls exist (except in the set-back portion).
Consider myself awared.
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 09:54 PM   #265
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Looks like the civic center skyline may get another 400' tower:

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...r_in_play.html

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Sitting on a prime corner parcel that was partially up-zoned for development up to 400 feet in height as part of San Francisco's Market & Octavia Plan, the Boas family is preparing to sell the two-story Honda dealership at the intersection of Market and South Van Ness Ave.

The potential 400-foot tower would be built on the southern portion of the triangular parcel with the Market Street frontage rising up to 120 feet in height. As the parcel's development was envisioned by Brand + Allen back in 2007:


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Old January 24th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #266
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Old January 28th, 2014, 07:09 PM   #267
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An update on 181 Fremont (802'/244m), from socketsite:

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2..._a_bad_mo.html

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Bored to a depth of 263 feet below street level, the deepest known construction shaft in the history of San Francisco has been drilled at 181 Fremont Street, one of 42 shafts which will embed the 802-foot tower's foundation into the ground.

With a six-foot diameter, the shaft is a bad mother…and Malcolm Drilling dug it.
Pretty cool!

And some more updates via simms3_redux on SSP (I added building heights in bold for those unfamiliar):

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350 Mission (now above street level and working on lobby area)455'/139m/30fl
45 Lansing (now ~floor 3 and about to shoot up like ORH North) 450'/137m/39fl
222 Second (one step ahead of 1400 Mission whereby the first pour is done and some rebar is going in) 350'/107m/26fl
1400 Mission (about to do first pour and ready to rise) 15 floors
1415 Mission (excavating...about to make a pour?) 14 floors
1321 Mission (excavating) 11 floors

And let's not forget about the Hampton Inn on Mission (15 floors) that is rising right now.
Also there's a 13 story project planned for 1450 Franklin street, which I hadn't even heard of until a couple days ago. It's undergoing site prep right now. Here's a rendering:



http://www.cross2dg.com/portfolio/14...-condominiums/
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Old March 12th, 2014, 02:06 AM   #268
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Proposals for Transbay Block 8 Include Potential Starchitect



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Three big builders are in the running to develop Block 8, a 42,000 square foot piece of land that has been zoned for 740 residential units. The project had been shelved for five years, but a request for proposals was reissued last December. All of the developers have lots of experience in the San Francisco market, but one also has a potential starchitect on board: if developer Related California wins the land, they will enlist the services of Rem Koolhaas to design the building. The other two developers vying for the land are Millennium Partners, which was responsible for the Four Seasons San Francisco and the Millennium Tower, and Golub, which developed the 32-story residential tower at 299 Fremont. Each of the three teams will submit a proposal for the land, and each proposal will include an affordable housing element because 27 percent of the building is required to be affordable. Ground floor retail will also be included in each proposal. The future project will be adjacent to a 41-story, 563-unit mixed-use tower at Block 9 that breaks ground this year.
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Old March 13th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #269
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I'm seriously... impressed/overwhelmed!

Keeping up this forum with all these photos seems like it's a full time job. lol.

I haven't even seen all these places and I go to San Francisco every week. The city is so huge. So many buildings.
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Old March 13th, 2014, 10:47 PM   #270
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I have pretty much given up and, instead, keep http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3382 current. The format is easier to deal with.

If you visit San Francisco regularly, you should come over there and help. There are a number of the larger projects--181 Fremont, 399 Fremont, 340 Fremont, 222 Second, 199 Fremont, 45 Lansing, 201 Folsom and more that we would love to have more frequent photos of. Grab your cell phone if you pass them and snap a photo.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 12:08 AM   #271
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Ok, well that makes sense. That format is much easier.
I won't make any promises, but if I do pass by there and my shots don't look like garbage (they don't look as good as the one's posted, my resolution is not that good) I'll come by and post them.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 08:32 AM   #272
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Starchitect Rem Koolhaas selected to build tower at Transbay site



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Dutch superstar architect Rem Koolhaas is getting another crack at San Francisco.

The city’s Office of Community Investment and Infrastructure has selected Koolhaas’ team – led by developer Related California – to design a 550-foot residential tower for a city-owned parcel on Folsom Street, between First and Fremont streets.

The Related/Koolhaas team, which includes nonprofit developer Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corp., offered $72 million for the parcel. Millennium Partners bid $70 million, while the third team, Chicago-based Golub & Co., was willing to pay $49 million for the property, said OCII project manager Mike Grisso.

The Koolhaas-designed tower will be a mix of condominiums and rental apartments. While it will undoubtedly generate astronomical rents, at least 27 percent of the units must be affordable to residents making 60 percent of area median income — $58,250 for a family of four.

The property is one of 11 properties the city is selling off to raise money for the Transbay Transit Center, the $4.2 billion project under construction at First and Mission streets. Once built out, the new Transbay District will have 4,400 housing units, 1,320 of which will be affordable.

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Old March 31st, 2014, 09:56 AM   #273
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Looks pretty bland and overall ugly. Why would anyone pull a building's side up to the street's axis if it's the ugly side with no windows or interesting facade ?
Correct. Totally stupid and UGLY. That's the thing with SF-MOMA. No beauty...no brains.

God, 95% of the new stuff going up in SF is soooooooo BLOCKY. Nothing new or exciting -- it's just cramming all the space that they can in a cozy city.

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Old April 2nd, 2014, 12:05 AM   #274
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Correct. Totally stupid and UGLY. That's the thing with SF-MOMA. No beauty...no brains.

God, 95% of the new stuff going up in SF is soooooooo BLOCKY. Nothing new or exciting -- it's just cramming all the space that they can in a cozy city.
Interesting opinion, seeing as there are some great buildings going up/planned in SF, many of which are designed by very well-regarded architects (Cesar Pelli, Norman Foster, Rem Koolhaas, SOM), and many of which are not blocks. I'd say most aren't boring either.

These look "blocky" and boring to you?

Transbay Tower:



181 Fremont:



399 Fremont:



Lumina towers:



One Rincon Hill towers:



535 Mission:




And It's not like a box/block is an inherently ugly shape, though maybe you personally feel that way. There are some good looking boxy/blocky towers going up/proposed too:

500 Folsom:



350 Mission:



222 Second:



299 Fremont:



340 Fremont:



45 Lansing (which while not a great design IMO, does have a pointy crown on top of the boxyness):



When it comes to smaller developments, I agree that there's a lot of overly boring and overly blocky stuff going on, which can largely be blamed on height limits that force developers to build that way in order to get a desirable amount of square footage out of their project (and to cut costs in a city where it takes forever/is very expensive to get a project going). But it's not like every single new building has to be an architectural masterpiece, and really, most low/midrise/short highrise buildings anywhere on earth are pretty blocky.

When it comes to high profile highrise construction, SF has finally gotten pretty interesting over the past 10-15 years...and that does include some good-looking blocky towers among an increasing amount of non-boxes. So give some credit where its due! SF's skyline is finally evolving after decades of being dominated by relatively boring boxes from the 60s/70s/80s.
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Old April 2nd, 2014, 04:15 AM   #275
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The Transbay Tower is my favorite, and not because of the height. It has soft, elegant curves all the way up the entire tower. Even the sides have a slight curve to them. Now 222 Second on the other hand, that one you could definitely say is blocky.
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Now 222 Second on the other hand, that one you could definitely say is blocky.
Definitely, though it looks OK in my opinion. Maybe a little stubby, but I like the facade a lot.
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Haha I would definitely left a few of those off the list. More than a couple boring blocky designs there but overall the projects in SF are interesting and some of them undeniably beautiful.
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Old April 2nd, 2014, 08:37 PM   #278
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Haha I would definitely left a few of those off the list. More than a couple boring blocky designs there but overall the projects in SF are interesting and some of them undeniably beautiful.
Maybe you missed the part where half of the list was specifically of blocky designs that look pretty good despite being blocky? (with one ugly exception, that I noted, but just listed because it's not completely blocky ) I was arguing against what seemed to be an opinion that blocky/boxy towers are inherently boring/ugly just because of the shape. Like in order to be interesting, a tower needs to be a cylinder, amorphous blob, or variant on a pyramid, or have a spire or something? The city actually could use more spires though, IMO

Of course beauty is subjective, but I think it's a little extreme to say that 95% of buildings going up in SF are boring. And it's an objective truth that many of the nicest and tallest towers going up are not "blocky" at all, and in most people's opinions (that I've heard) are pretty good looking. And a lot of people like many of the boxy ones too.

But regardless of one's opinion on blockyness, I think most people can agree that there are at least a few really nice looking towers going up in SF.
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Old April 2nd, 2014, 11:22 PM   #279
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Not every single building is going to be a great design in any city. Every city of substantial size has something crappy built in it. There is a thread somewhere on this site that's just for the worst buildings in any city. I checked it out once and believe me, there is some really ugly buildings out there!
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 02:18 AM   #280
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Do we have a name for this style? The "glass + high contrast facade + weird trellis" style that is popping up all over California drives me apeshit and I'd love to be able to call it something so I can besmirch it more easily.
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