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Old July 17th, 2012, 07:28 AM   #41
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Totally agree with you. Looking at the designs of the model roads, pedestrian are nothing but backward class for AMC. And I still can't understand what is the need of putting fences over dividers?
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Old July 17th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #42
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The dividers placed are pretty low quality products. I have myself seen how this dividers has been placed. This divider will fall, if I try to push it. It looks we should name this project as "Corruption Roads".

But I do hope this sampling would make Ahmedabad little more greener. To my view lane should have been reduced to create sufficient space for pedestrian.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #43
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Totally agree with you. Looking at the designs of the model roads, pedestrian are nothing but backward class for AMC. And I still can't understand what is the need of putting fences over dividers?
This is India, if dividers are not their you will not seen any sampling left at the divider. For e.g. almost all nursery put on the BRTS track of RTO-Shiv Ranjni got destroyed due to foots of people.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #44
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Ahmedabad has comparatively wider roads and lesser traffic than other Indian cities, so we can afford to have some wider pavements...

I too did'nt like the design of the model roads except the green canopy part.

It is a remarkable coincidence that today I attended an expert lecture on "Street Design". The lecturer gave the example of China, where there are such wide pavements that people are tempted to walk to nearby places. They have also given so much emphasis on public spaces (to the extent that on an average, around 35% of the total city area is public spaces), which leads to better social infrastructure and has led to decrease in crime and violence. She said that unless we create more places for relaxation of public, the stress levels of the citizens, esp metro cities, will increase leading to violence and crimes...
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Old July 17th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #45
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I would suggest we should let this issue be shown in the Ahmedabad Mirror newspaper. It seems that those babus listen to this paper more than anything
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Old July 18th, 2012, 12:53 AM   #46
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Hey guys I have just joined SSC forums, actually I am reading SSC threads since quite a while now but haven't become member till now anyways, I see that you guys want to interact with muncipal commisioner regarding some issues. I don't know whether you guyz know this or not but for this very purpose mohapatra has started his facebook page for a common citizens to exprees their grievances or to suggest something & he personally rereplies to all those queries (am not so sure about this part that wheteher he himself handles it or have some guy to look over it). here is the link -

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Commi...07075879400396

actually very few people know about this since this page is relatively new but hope that as time goes by more & more amdavadis know about this.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 03:04 AM   #47
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Welcome man!

So who wants to write to mr. Mohapatra?
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Old July 18th, 2012, 01:16 PM   #48
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Old July 18th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #49
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Go man go ...we are all behind you (till the time the police lock you up, after that I am )
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Old July 18th, 2012, 01:40 PM   #50
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Respected Sir,

I am a resident of Ahmedabad, since the past twenty three years.
I have a concern for the design and implementation of Model roads of certain roads in Ahmedabad.

1) Please do not consider pedestrians as some third class citizens who should not be considered. Many great cities in the world have very generous and usable footpaths. Paving the roads for vehicles from one boundary wall to the other leaves no space for people to walk.

Also, the width of footpaths that the city has is very shameful... nobody can walk on them. Please give 33 % of the width of the roads to the poor pedestrians. This can include bicycle lanes, but parking should not be included.

If not the normal pedestrians, PLEASE CONSIDER THE CONDITION OF THE BLIND AND DISABLED PEOPLE. The road outside Andhjan Mandal is also fully paved... and ALL THE BLIND PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEM IN WALKING THERE now.

2) THE DESIGN OF THE DIVIDER RAILINGS
The design of these dividers is BAD.... Aesthetically, functionally, and especially how badly they are constructed, anybody can uproot them and sell them at a good price.

3) STREET CULTURE
As we are a dry state, ann as we don't have any public places to relax in the city, the Chaiwala at teh street corner is the only place we can meet friends and socialize after a hard day's work. This street culture makes cities vibrant. Such establishments should be endoresed, as they are a brainchild, and means of earning of many poor people.

On lines of Law garden, where the chaniya choli market has become famous just because it is regularised, all the street food and chai and otehr shops on the streets should be encouraged.

Secondly, such establishments on streetsides makes the streets safer, because no point on the street is deserted and underground activites can be controlled.

But your drive of ERASING FOOTPATHS from the city just because of your idea that they give rise to slums will affect many businesses and self-employed people. They will turn to other (maybe illegal) means of earning money, which will eventually make the city even more unsafe.


We have many great colleges and institutions which can provide consultancy to such city-design projects. Designing a road is not some rocket science. It is pure common sense and urban sensitivity. Please take help from these institutions for any further makeovers you have planned for the city so that the city does not lose its soul.

Sincerely,
A concerned citizen
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Old July 18th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #51
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How about this letter ???
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Old July 18th, 2012, 01:52 PM   #52
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Nice! you took the time to write a long letter

Hopefully he doesnt feel stupid after reading it haha. Do you also want to include examples of Pedestrian malls and how that can influence business and get people off the roads?
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Old July 18th, 2012, 02:35 PM   #53
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Arey... he is aware of the pedmalls.... that's why Bhadra square is coming up
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Old July 18th, 2012, 03:12 PM   #54
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Oh i see. Well shoot it off to him and see what he says. I would love to hear a reply from him.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 03:56 PM   #55
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Great letter... also could you add the idea of introducing pedestrian overbridges at important junctions...esp on C.G. Road where people come to shop and find it difficult to cross the road, also the overbridge would be a good place to advertise, thus recovering its construction cost.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 06:25 PM   #56
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and this footover bridge should be equipped with lift or escalator...
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Old July 18th, 2012, 06:58 PM   #57
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They can also expand the C.G road from 4 to 6 lanes and providing under-road parking or MLPs on off C.G Road. This will enables to solve traffic problems and a greater walkway will boost window shopping.
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This is what a model road should look like...and all the roads which are being made model roads are capable of this design...

Its a road in Tokyo

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Old July 18th, 2012, 07:03 PM   #59
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They can also expand the C.G road from 4 to 6 lanes and providing under-road parking or MLPs on off C.G Road. This will enables to solve traffic problems and a greater walkway will boost window shopping.
But then whatever space there is for pavements will be gone.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 05:52 AM   #60
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They should keep off CG road in its current position. Let built foot over bridges with extreme designs to feel cool. According to me, to solve parking problems, AMC need to set up multi level parking building all over Ahmedabad and purchase 1000's of car locks to lock it wherever cars are parked illegally.
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