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Gutovsky · August 1st, 2012, 07:42 PM

Arcologies are now being built, for real?

Seriously, this is one bad project. It looks like a reject from the Jetsons.

Jex7844 · October 1st, 2012, 11:03 PM

According to the french article HERE, the project has been approved by the local government...

ThatOneGuy · October 1st, 2012, 11:07 PM

I still can't imagine it being built.

Coddington · October 2nd, 2012, 12:10 PM

I don't know if I like the design.
I love Venice but I don't know if that's a bad thing for the city or not. It won't be built exactly in Venice I think.
So I think that when people will be in the city won't see it and won't think about it.

At least, I hope so.

Fab87 · October 2nd, 2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coddington

I don't know if I like the design.
I love Venice but I don't know if that's a bad thing for the city or not. It won't be built exactly in Venice I think.
So I think that when people will be in the city won't see it and won't think about it.

At least, I hope so.

It will be built in the inlands (Marghera), near the station of Mestre. It will be seen from the port area of Venice (Tronchetto), not from the city center.

I personally don't like the project, but in this historical moment Venice can't decline this kind of offer.

P.S. yes, the project has been approved, they're just waiting for the final authorization by ENAC, the national aviation authority, since the tower could interfere with the flight paths of the Marco Polo airport. According to rumours, though, ENAC is likely to say yes.

***GENIUS LOCI*** · October 2nd, 2012, 12:54 PM

I don't like it either

Jex7844 · October 2nd, 2012, 01:29 PM

Pierre Cardin unveiled his project on monday 27 august. The project will cost 2 billion €, & for a 100 sq metre flat, you'll have to spend 2 million €. As you can see in the following video, the tower will definitely be visible from Venice's city centre.

Pierre Cardin pointing at his future personal flat

Another video showing the project via images:

Fab87 · October 2nd, 2012, 02:22 PM

visible from the Campanile di san Marco of course, not from ground level or Rialto bridge. I don't know if that rendering from the Giudecca canal is realistic. But the south bank of the Giudecca canal doesn't really belong to the center of Venice

Coddington · October 2nd, 2012, 02:27 PM

So I don't know what to think about this project...
I think it will be built so wait and see.

The first video says that apartments will be ready in 3 years. Short timing no?

CF221 · October 2nd, 2012, 03:55 PM

horrible.. and it had to be in venice??

Fab87 · October 2nd, 2012, 05:27 PM

Not in Venice...on the mainland.

Close to the Mestre Railway Station. 4 miles away from the Venice arcipelago.

The area now as it can be seen from Venice:

It can't really get worse

Coddington · October 2nd, 2012, 06:40 PM

I went in Venice this summer and I have to admit that this area is quite far from Venice. It looks to be close on this pics but it's certainly because of perspective.

And this industrial area (which really looks bad) is only visible from the entrance of the city (the horrible big parking) or maybe from the highest points of Venice.

Moreover the big touristic boats may hide the building.

frensismulociattante · October 2nd, 2012, 10:15 PM

incredibile, forse mi funziona male il traduttore ma quasi sembra che gli stranieri siano invidiosi. Un francese pare (i traduttori fanno brutti scherzi e quindi condizionale d'obbligo) abbia detto che loro lo hanno scartato?! Chè lo volevano a tutti i costi (muhhahhahha, grande francese, grande).

ThatOneGuy · October 3rd, 2012, 05:49 AM

This building is starting to grow on me. It will provide a nice, modern contrast to the completely classical Venice, which is always good. It's not too close to the city center, either, so not many people will see it anyways. Build it.

guvyoc · October 8th, 2012, 07:42 PM

I don't understand why you don't like this project or what you dislike of the building. It's simply amazing and so beautiful, this skyscraper could be a new beggining for Venice, it could start a new modern area opposed to the historical center, creating a surprising contrast

Fab87 · November 18th, 2012, 12:53 AM

Good news, Enac said yes. The airport proximity has ceased to be an issue. it was kind of clear since the very beginning, since the project site is well distant from the landing patterns...

Jex7844 · November 28th, 2012, 01:54 AM

Pierre Cardin was invited a few minutes ago to the french show "Ce soir ou jamais" to promote his Palais Lumière. He said he has been almost granted all the agreements from the city of Venice, the very last one being to be signed on December 3rd.

ThatOneGuy · November 28th, 2012, 03:02 AM

Please tell me this building is not closer to being approved for construction than Hermitage Plaza!

Fab87 · November 30th, 2012, 12:15 PM

Yes it is...It is basically ALREADY approved

Jex7844 · November 30th, 2012, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

Please tell me this building is not closer to being approved for construction than Hermitage Plaza!

Yes, it's way closer...(HP is very far from coming true owing to France's very long & fastidious judiciary procedure)

August 1st, 2012, 07:42 PM	#21
Gutovsky Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: São Paulo Posts: 3,819 Likes (Received): 385	Arcologies are now being built, for real? Seriously, this is one bad project. It looks like a reject from the Jetsons. __________________ Leave a message after the doom.

October 1st, 2012, 11:03 PM	#22
Jex7844 La Défenseholic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NANTES Posts: 4,853 Likes (Received): 652	According to the french article HERE, the project has been approved by the local government... __________________ Back Thom Mayne's PHARE tower in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Back Norman Foster's TWIN TOWERS in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Soutenez le futur PONT TRANSBORDEUR de Nantes, signez ICI

October 2nd, 2012, 12:54 PM	#26
*GENIUS LOCI* Italian Mod Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milano Posts: 26,414 Likes (Received): 231	I don't like it either __________________ www.urbanfile.org Poland National Stadium - Kiev Olympic Stadium - The Shard - NYC 2 WTC - The Shanghai Tower - Milan Garibaldi Tower - Milan Expo 2015 E=mc²?

October 2nd, 2012, 01:29 PM	#27
Jex7844 La Défenseholic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NANTES Posts: 4,853 Likes (Received): 652	Pierre Cardin unveiled his project on monday 27 august. The project will cost 2 billion €, & for a 100 sq metre flat, you'll have to spend 2 million €. As you can see in the following video, the tower will definitely be visible from Venice's city centre. Pierre Cardin pointing at his future personal flat Another video showing the project via images: __________________ Back Thom Mayne's PHARE tower in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Back Norman Foster's TWIN TOWERS in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Soutenez le futur PONT TRANSBORDEUR de Nantes, signez ICI Last edited by Jex7844; October 2nd, 2012 at 01:40 PM.

October 2nd, 2012, 02:22 PM	#28
Fab87 east side man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brussels Posts: 4,572 Likes (Received): 478	visible from the Campanile di san Marco of course, not from ground level or Rialto bridge. I don't know if that rendering from the Giudecca canal is realistic. But the south bank of the Giudecca canal doesn't really belong to the center of Venice __________________ Coole Typen vergisst man nicht *Verona, where Rome meets Venice*

October 1st, 2012, 11:07 PM	#23
ThatOneGuy NOT BANNNED Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Constanța Posts: 7,103 Likes (Received): 767	I still can't imagine it being built.

October 2nd, 2012, 12:10 PM	#24
Coddington ... Coddi ... Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lyon Posts: 683 Likes (Received): 171	I don't know if I like the design. I love Venice but I don't know if that's a bad thing for the city or not. It won't be built exactly in Venice I think. So I think that when people will be in the city won't see it and won't think about it. At least, I hope so.

October 2nd, 2012, 02:27 PM	#29
Coddington ... Coddi ... Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lyon Posts: 683 Likes (Received): 171	So I don't know what to think about this project... I think it will be built so wait and see. The first video says that apartments will be ready in 3 years. Short timing no?

October 2nd, 2012, 03:55 PM	#30
CF221 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 1,468 Likes (Received): 46	horrible.. and it had to be in venice?? __________________ Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.

October 2nd, 2012, 05:27 PM	#31
Fab87 east side man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brussels Posts: 4,572 Likes (Received): 478	Not in Venice...on the mainland. Close to the Mestre Railway Station. 4 miles away from the Venice arcipelago. The area now as it can be seen from Venice: It can't really get worse __________________ Coole Typen vergisst man nicht *Verona, where Rome meets Venice* Last edited by Fab87; October 2nd, 2012 at 05:32 PM.

October 2nd, 2012, 06:40 PM	#32
Coddington ... Coddi ... Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lyon Posts: 683 Likes (Received): 171	I went in Venice this summer and I have to admit that this area is quite far from Venice. It looks to be close on this pics but it's certainly because of perspective. And this industrial area (which really looks bad) is only visible from the entrance of the city (the horrible big parking) or maybe from the highest points of Venice. Moreover the big touristic boats may hide the building.

October 2nd, 2012, 10:15 PM	#33
frensismulociattante ciatto in inglese. Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: padova-udine Posts: 66 Likes (Received): 0	incredibile, forse mi funziona male il traduttore ma quasi sembra che gli stranieri siano invidiosi. Un francese pare (i traduttori fanno brutti scherzi e quindi condizionale d'obbligo) abbia detto che loro lo hanno scartato?! Chè lo volevano a tutti i costi (muhhahhahha, grande francese, grande).

October 3rd, 2012, 05:49 AM	#34
ThatOneGuy NOT BANNNED Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Constanța Posts: 7,103 Likes (Received): 767	This building is starting to grow on me. It will provide a nice, modern contrast to the completely classical Venice, which is always good. It's not too close to the city center, either, so not many people will see it anyways. Build it.

October 8th, 2012, 07:42 PM	#35
guvyoc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Mestre Posts: 51 Likes (Received): 0	I don't understand why you don't like this project or what you dislike of the building. It's simply amazing and so beautiful, this skyscraper could be a new beggining for Venice, it could start a new modern area opposed to the historical center, creating a surprising contrast

November 18th, 2012, 12:53 AM	#36
Fab87 east side man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brussels Posts: 4,572 Likes (Received): 478	Good news, Enac said yes. The airport proximity has ceased to be an issue. it was kind of clear since the very beginning, since the project site is well distant from the landing patterns... __________________ Coole Typen vergisst man nicht *Verona, where Rome meets Venice* Last edited by Fab87; November 30th, 2012 at 12:14 PM.

November 28th, 2012, 01:54 AM	#37
Jex7844 La Défenseholic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NANTES Posts: 4,853 Likes (Received): 652	Pierre Cardin was invited a few minutes ago to the french show "Ce soir ou jamais" to promote his Palais Lumière. He said he has been almost granted all the agreements from the city of Venice, the very last one being to be signed on December 3rd. __________________ Back Thom Mayne's PHARE tower in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Back Norman Foster's TWIN TOWERS in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Soutenez le futur PONT TRANSBORDEUR de Nantes, signez ICI

November 28th, 2012, 03:02 AM	#38
ThatOneGuy NOT BANNNED Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Constanța Posts: 7,103 Likes (Received): 767	Please tell me this building is not closer to being approved for construction than Hermitage Plaza!

November 30th, 2012, 12:15 PM	#39
Fab87 east side man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brussels Posts: 4,572 Likes (Received): 478	Yes it is...It is basically ALREADY approved __________________ Coole Typen vergisst man nicht *Verona, where Rome meets Venice*

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