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Old March 26th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #1
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Road-related shames and scandals in your country: roads and motorways never completed for ages

This thread is about motorways and roads whose works started but were later stopped and never completed.

In Italy one of the most infamous example is the Guinza tunnel, a 5960m tunnel located between Marche and Umbria that will be part of the Grosseto - Fano expressway (E78). The first tube was completed in 1992 but it never opened.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galleria_della_Guinza
http://maps.google.pl/maps?q=Guinza,...C5%82ochy&z=16







Another tunnel between Marche and Umbria, the Cornello tunnel (4km) is incomplete. Works started in 1993 but stopped after 500m were already dug.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traforo_del_Cornello









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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #2
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Thats nothing compared to the Dutch national disgrace.
The A4MD (mid-Delftland) between Rotterdam and Delft (near The Hague) has been planned for over 60 yrs now, with construction starting in the 60's/70's, being stopped very soon after that, with only the earthworks semi-completed. Luckily now construction will start in 2012, at a absolute monsterprice (700 million Euro's) for a motorway less then 10km long.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #3
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Pictures say more than a thousand words sometimes:


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Old March 27th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #4
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The last pic reminds me the Italian A28 that remained incomplete for ages. The construction of the Sacile Ovest - Conegliano section (15km in an absolutely flat area) lasted from 1996 to 2010 but that section was planned back in the 60s. The worst thing is that "Autovie Venete" company built the cloverleaf between A28 and A27 following the 40 y.o. original project, with short ramps and substandard exits that are dangerous expecially for trucks.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 11:22 AM   #5
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If I remember correctly also the A31 Valdastico, at the intersection with A4, was in a similar situation to that of Chris' picture for years.

About italystf's pictures: mobility between Umbria and Marche regions is still at stone age Quadrilatero will solve some (but absolutely not all) problems.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #6
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If I remember correctly also the A31 Valdastico, at the intersection with A4, was in a similar situation to that of Chris' picture for years.
Yes, for more than 30 years, but fortunately the first section of A31 south of Vicenza will open this May, the entire lenght towards Rovigo in 2013.

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About italystf's pictures: mobility between Umbria and Marche regions is still at stone age Quadrilatero will solve some (but absolutely not all) problems.
In 2010 I travelled from Macerata to Assisi. It took 2h30' for around 100km. From Macerata there is a short expressway (SS77) that later become a narrow and curvy mountain road through Monfiorito Pass and reach Foligno. There we took a (old, substandard) expressway to Assisi (SS75). At the return we took the SS3bis\E45 from Perugia to Ravenna. In many parts the pavement was horrible with a lot of potholes and there was 90kph speed limit. The Verghereto tunnel was closed for endless renovation works and we had to exit the highway and driving up to the mountain pass that was overcrowed with trucks and buses.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #7
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Thats nothing compared to the Dutch national disgrace.
As a Dutchman, I believe that we have to bow deeply to our Italian friends. The abandoned A4 project was on land that had always been reserved and all they really did was to dump a large bunk of sand on that reserved land. If you compare that to digging a mountain tunnel (at the usual huge costs) that is about as long as this A4 project, you have to conclude that the Italian waste was much, much larger.

To add also that the Italian started building without having a real clue about the Western access road to the tunnel. That's waste of funds combined with outright stupidity. Ah well, governments ...
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Pictures say more than a thousand words sometimes:

http://defotograaf.eu/blog/wp-conten...03-20-0576.jpg
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I just drove there 2 days ago and was wondering how weird the intersection is...
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The last pic reminds me the Italian A28 that remained incomplete for ages.
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If I remember correctly also the A31 Valdastico, at the intersection with A4, was in a similar situation to that of Chris' picture for years.
Italy had a similar problem when the legge 492 (law 492) prohibited new motorway alignments. The law was introduced in 1975 and only U/C projects were finished, so motorway construction collapsed after the late 1970's, which is strikingly visible in this graph I made a while ago:


New autostrada openings by year in Italy.
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Italy had a similar problem when the legge 492 (law 492) prohibited new motorway alignments. The law was introduced in 1975 and only U/C projects were finished, so motorway construction collapsed after the late 1970's
True, but that law was abrogated in 1982, so they could build more in the following years. The purpose of that law was reacting to the 1973 oil crisis.
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AFAIK law 492 was abrogated only in 2001 with so called "Legge obiettivo"
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Fortunately Italy had much of its mainline motorway network completed by the mid 1970's. A similar law in France would've had disastrous results.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:32 PM   #14
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AFAIK law 492 was abrogated only in 2001 with so called "Legge obiettivo"
http://www.miol.it/stagniweb/foto6.a...igheI=40&Col=3
Here they say 1982. Otherwise we wouldn't explain why many motorways opened between 1982 and 2001 (according to Chris's graph).

@Chris: did you made a such graph for every country?
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http://www.miol.it/stagniweb/foto6.a...igheI=40&Col=3
Here they say 1982. Otherwise we wouldn't explain why many motorways opened between 1982 and 2001 (according to Chris's graph).
Those were autostrade already financed. Law 492 stated that no autostrade could be built that had no financing at the time of the introduction of the law.

Art. 2 of the 1982 law stated that some primary routes could be built "in dispensation of law 492", meaning that law 492 was still in place.
http://www.normattiva.it/uri-res/N2L...1982-08-12;531
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Old March 27th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #16
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Well in my example the scandal was that the project even started:

The A3 (at the time called N3) was planned to be built over the river Sihl right through the centre of Zürich. The so called "Y" project.



The first part was already built till Zürich Wiedikon:


Where it suddenly ends:
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In a late project, the motorway was supposed to be partially in a tunnel. The part under the Hauptbahnhof (Main station) was already built:


Currently it is used as access for the construction site of the new train station.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #17
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There are many examples in Bulgaria of such continuing for ages constructions or even not finished...

For example the second tube of a tunnel on E79 near Dupnitsa which was started in 1962 and finished in 2008. And it's a project started in 1921 - first tunel completed in 1930. Then in the beggining of the 60ies they decided to double it, real construction started in 1972, but later abandoned (frozen) and restarted in 2005.

Another example is the East part of Sofia Ring Road (connecting A1 and A2) with motorway standard, built in the 80ies with a missing bridge at a railway overpass for over 30 years
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Old March 28th, 2012, 12:04 PM   #18
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Well, in Finland (particularly the Helsinki area) there are mutliple examples of roads that have been planned since the 1950's but partially or never built; due to the Socialist-Agrarian governments 1966-1987.
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Both examples I gave are not some mega-projects, but something looking really easy to complete, whatever unexpected difficulties occur during construction. The Kazichene bridge of the Sofia Ring Road is just an overpass over double railway, and the half profile built 30 years ago is about 150 m long. The Dupnitsa tunnel is about 270 m long. So it makes it really a shame these simple and not so finance-consuming task haven't been completed for decades...
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Well, in Finland (particularly the Helsinki area) there are mutliple examples of roads that have been planned since the 1950's but partially or never built; due to the Socialist-Agrarian governments 1966-1987.
I am afraid this approach is slightly off-topic, as 'not started' does not equal to 'abandoned' or 'never completed'. I guess the world is full of rejected plans.

The Finnish tradition is to not abandon the road works once started. That is why there are not many cases to present, at least on the network of main roads. However, two cases might qualify, both in the outskirts of the city of Jyväskylä:

1) In the 1960's, there was a plan to build the road 4/E4 as a motorway through the city cutting it into two. A short motorway section of 1.8 kilometres was built. As the criticism grew, the plan was abandoned. Later, the motorway was downgraded to a road 6108, and it was recently converted to a 1+1 street.

http://maps.google.fi/?ll=62.224096,...12,221.73,,0,0

2) The eastern approach to the city was built to a motorway in 1970's, but the money exhausted before making the bridge over the inland waterway at the east end. The motorway ends abruptly at a roundabout in the suburb of Vaajakoski. About two kilometers of a road is missing to join the road ends, and the traffic flows on a street.

Currently, that road is a six-fold multiplex of roads 4, 9, 13, 23, E63 and E75. There is an ongoing project to plan for the missing part. The tunnel option was rejected last year because of the cost and the bad bedrock.

http://maps.google.fi/?ll=62.237153,...72348&t=m&z=13
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