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Old September 12th, 2015, 10:41 AM   #501
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Old September 12th, 2015, 11:04 PM   #502
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The modern buildings are much better than those in Dresden. They almost feel historical.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 11:31 AM   #503
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Great achievements in Dresden.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #504
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This is the Potsdam thread.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 08:30 PM   #505
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The modern buildings are much better than those in Dresden. They almost feel historical.
Sadly a 1/3 of the new altstadt in Dresden is modern eyesores. Otherwise Dresden is overwhelming
The reconstruction is Berlin is appreciated too. It helps bringing tourists and is beautiful architecture which brings a historical dimension to both cities.
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Old September 15th, 2015, 03:29 AM   #506
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Hi. I am back for only a small input. Don't have much time. Seems user Hertog likes timber framed buildings? Well, he is not the only one.

Potsdam has three railway stations. The main one is a "new" one (result of war) and a big box. But there are two more. The former station
for the commoners and the former Kaiser one. Both were in desperate shape by the time of the "Wende`"
( As Germans call the fall of the Berlin wall and reunification of the Nation). I like to introduce them with the renovation.

Viola: A timber framed railway station:

It is more a reconstruction, like every beam had to be taken out of the structure!!









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before: Will be turned into a restaurant and Biergarten

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That is the Bahnhof "Wildpark" railway station for his majesty
The rail company DB renovated and uses the building for manager courses and training. Not bad. Like to do some training in there myself.



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Old September 15th, 2015, 03:49 AM   #507
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This is perfect example of habitual bias. These statues look like something out of the new Skopje, but because they are in Germany, "Oh my god, amazing!" No they are not amazing, they are terrible. Even the Germans can screw up once in a while, and these statues are a mess.
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Old September 15th, 2015, 09:27 AM   #508
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This is perfect example of habitual bias. These statues look like something out of the new Skopje, but because they are in Germany, "Oh my god, amazing!" No they are not amazing, they are terrible. Even the Germans can screw up once in a while, and these statues are a mess.
What are you talking?

Those Statues are reconstructions of the original ones done with the same material as long as i know. Those in Skopje are just concrete cast crap you can buy at supermarkets or over ambitioned copper themes to create a historical past Makedonia never already had.
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I think he is referring to the constant nagging about Skopje. I don't understand the nagging either. But I agree that Gandhi or Churchill are embarrassing for many. Those statues shown here in this picture are correct. They really are, given that the viewer has to be standing on the street. The statues were purposely put out of proportions to make them lifelike from the street or first floor. If you zoom in, you will see the tricks they used making them. The old Greek did the same with columns. They are wider in the middle to let them appear correct in the distance! So, this is not a mistake.

Zooming in by camara is the problem.
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I think he is referring to the constant nagging about Skopje. I don't understand the nagging either. But I agree that Gandhi or Churchill are embarrassing for many. Those statues shown here in this picture are correct. They really are, given that the viewer has to be standing on the street. The statues were purposely put out of proportions to make them lifelike from the street or first floor. If you zoom in, you will see the tricks they used making them. The old Greek did the same with columns. They are wider in the middle to let them appear correct in the distance! So, this is not a mistake.

Zooming in by camara is the problem.
Good point. I did not take that into consideration so maybe that's why they look so weird, because in those close ups they really do look way off.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 07:41 AM   #511
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No they are not amazing, they are terrible. Even the Germans can screw up once in a while, and these statues are a mess.
Or you, my friend, just have no clue. These are very exact reconstructions of the baroque originals and carved in real stone (from the exact same stone quarries as the originals) by experienced sculptors, overseen by art historians.

The originals:






The Skopje statues are fantasy products, made from gypsum or concrete and made by the cheapest supplier they could find in the Balkans.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 02:06 AM   #512
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Not to post off topic, but how taboo is it in Germany to have memorials for their dead soldiers? Other axis countries like Japan and Italy have many and you would think you could separate the soldiers from the political entities that caused the war. Always surprised me how tolerant people were to the big soviet monuments in Berlin and area, I couldn't imagine large U.S. War memorials in Tokyo going over well.

Really looking forward to seeing the canal filled.
Even ukrainians pulled down soviet symbols, I wonder why Germany didn't not do it yet.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 02:48 AM   #513
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We signed a treaty with Russia in 1992 which says that we have to preserve soviet war grave monuments in Germany on our costs. Reason back then simply was to get the Russian Army out of Germany as fast as possible. Anyway, that did not prevent us from tearing down almost all Lenin monuments and even many other soviet memorials which were not listed as war graves.
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Even ukrainians pulled down soviet symbols, I wonder why Germany didn't not do it yet.
There's some difference between soviet symbols on city buildings and those on graves.
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I can't imagine why somebody wants to take down war graves, soviet soldiers, german soldiers, and american ones, they where just people fighting for they country.
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I can't imagine why somebody wants to take down war graves, soviet soldiers, german soldiers, and american ones, they where just people fighting for they country.
It is not the graves that anyone objects to. Rather the in-your-face, militaristic, aggressive, and discordant structures such as the soviet memorial that should have no place other than in one's home nation.
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Time for some updates. Let's start with the canal in downtown.
1970's. If you look closely, you make out the former canal. In the middle a Bridge:



Berliner Bruecke

source user Konstantindeeger and Potsdam-fan, thank you guys

The next section will be reconstructed. The managers are also learning from mistakes. The first sections had no concrete behind,
but trucks causing damage. The new sections will see concrete behind, with original old
Back Stein Klinker stone in front.


The water niveau is around one meter ninety. Deeper and the river presses throu.
The next section will add 180 meter (times three for feet)

The original klinker stone reused. Unfortunately not trucking proof.
Also, there will be 300 year old trees saved from the original canal construction!!


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next: The Keller-tor-wache

September, the 8th

Sep, the 17th


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Old September 19th, 2015, 10:01 PM   #519
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update Alter Market reconstruction


Details from Barberini. Will be open for public. First level will become a private
museum for East german painters.


The new/old Humboldt strasse




The Noack Haus, inspired by palazzo Chiericati in Italy


The city sold the land and pays with that money for the water, power, pavement and a new lamppost is also in order!



The Haus "Roter Adler" inspired by Palazzo Pompei, Italy of course



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Old September 19th, 2015, 10:16 PM   #520
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The "Neuer Garten" Park get's a new rebuild: The Muschel Grotte
This Grotto was made from mussel shells, stone found in 10 Countries and glass.
It used to look like this

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From the outside.

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it's location is the same park as this shown before:

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