daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Forums > Architecture > European Classic Architecture and Landscapes

European Classic Architecture and Landscapes All related to historical buildings and landscapes of the old world.



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old April 10th, 2016, 07:25 AM   #641
cameronpaul
Paris-the city beautiful
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Posts: 923
Likes (Received): 468

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludi View Post
The Evangelical Lutheran Church is supporting the reconstruction of the tower of the Garrison Church in Potsdam with a loan of 3.25 million euros . This was decided by the Synod on Saturday in Berlin.









The reconstruction is controversial...



I think it cant be the fault of a Church, that Hitlers and Hindenburgs meeting has taken place there...



"Controversial" - what a load of garbage! Are the Russians going to demolish St. Basils in Red Square because it was built by a tyrannical Czar? Are the Italians about to destroy St. Peter's in Rome because of its close association to a totally corrupt and evil Papacy of the past? This so-called controversy has no legitimacy whatsoever!
__________________
cameronpaul no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old April 11th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #642
erbse
LIBERTINED
 
erbse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: McLenBurg
Posts: 43,310
Likes (Received): 58029

Agreed. In addition, that meeting of Hitler and Hindenburg itself had no big political meaning anyway. It was the Nazis who bloated it to some kind of legitimacy they got by the "old establishment", but the reality of that day was that Hitler was just another submissive supporting act there. Hindenburg was the star in Potsdam.
__________________
GET FREE!
D W F


🔥 Tradition doesn't mean to look after the ash, but to keep the flame alive! 🔥
erbse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 12th, 2016, 03:28 AM   #643
robertwood
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 228
Likes (Received): 273

As an American I do not understand the so called controversy over the Garrison Church. Don't y'all still use the stadium where the Olympics were held in 1936 that Hitler watched? What's the damn difference? Doesn't this church have a 200 year history before Hitler? I really just don't get why the lefties would want to stand in the way of rebuilding such an important landmark. I agree with Cameronpaul, it's not the building's fault. In any event, it looks like it is on course to be rebuilt and that's all that matters in the long run.
__________________
robertwood no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 12th, 2016, 11:48 AM   #644
erbse
LIBERTINED
 
erbse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: McLenBurg
Posts: 43,310
Likes (Received): 58029

In addition to that symbolic Hitler-Hindenburg handshake, it's the "Prussian-ness", the smell of royalty, of "conservatism", "militarism" and just the sheer baroque opulence and grandeur of the Garrison Church, that lefties and GDR-romanticists despise. They hate themselves and the identity of this country, thus they hate everything German. Whatever they could prevent that is ought to come back, they would try to prevent it.

The sole name "Garrison Church" does the rest, every lefty true at heart gets a mouth full of foam reading it.
__________________
GET FREE!
D W F


🔥 Tradition doesn't mean to look after the ash, but to keep the flame alive! 🔥
erbse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 12th, 2016, 07:36 PM   #645
Titan Man
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-nana
 
Titan Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Zadar
Posts: 593
Likes (Received): 722

I just hate when people have this strange desire to make every single thing political. I'm a leftist myself (if you've heard anything of Croatian right-wing parties, you would know why), but I'm definitely not hardcore one, and I don't care much about the whole politics thing, so I can't even imagine what my life and my own personality would look like if I looked on everything through politics' eyes, splitting people into good and bad based on their own opinion. When it comes to architecture, the whole thing becomes worse, as it can actually lower the quality of life of those same people that are opposing this project. By opposing reconstruction projects, they're only hurting themselves as they're the ones who will have to live with the eyesores that are commieblocks, and if some think it can't actually affect you in any way, they're very wrong. Also, I've noticed that they're opposing reconstructions of some non-controversial buildings, as well, which I find utterly stupid. For God's sake, people, politics never makes life better, only bitter.
__________________
If you build it, they'll come.
Titan Man no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 21st, 2016, 02:09 AM   #646
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

@erbse You should mention that this argument is just an excuse. The commis demolished many churches. But not those that had been visited by Hitler. We cannot let them get away with lies.

The waterfront get`s on his way













interesting: a tourist information is opening
__________________
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 25th, 2016, 01:38 AM   #647
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

I like to present an update to the Breite Street project!!

This picture is from 1977. severe crakes have caused the building to sit empty


Todays Yorkpalais is on the plot


Today


The beautiful "Gauben" on the roof


The westpalais


hopefully it gets a warm color


Nr. 18 Brockesschen Palais


and Nr. 19 smile!


The roofs of the new backjard buildings


our lovely mini highrise


And as extra a view in the fašade of the Stall building with needs rebuilding.
In front under the net is a fire station witch will be demolished and the commieblock at the back, too. The church will be rebuild on the left. Not in picture


Thanks, potsadam-fan!
__________________
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 26th, 2016, 01:58 AM   #648
robertwood
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 228
Likes (Received): 273

Love to see those commie structures coming down! Thanks The Eagle!
__________________

The Eagle liked this post
robertwood no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 27th, 2016, 11:20 PM   #649
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

Hello everybody! How is it going?

I have some eye candy for you people. The schloss is getting two statues on it`s roof delivered.




















source Potsdam-fan
__________________
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2016, 12:02 AM   #650
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

We continue

The Potsdam Stadt Schloss reconstruction association is bringing the 80 statues back. They are collecting money thru donations and selling cookies. It`s a hard job!

On the 20.April 2016


The gable on the west-wing is getting prepared





Now on the 26th two more statues come delivered. Hercules and the Boy
It says in the picture: WELCOME AT HOME HERCULES!


Here they are at this cold day. 4 degrees Celsius! So one needs the cloth!-)


Boys is first. Hercules goes in afternoon.
Oh- He looks like trying cool





















Potsdam is weird! Stone flying thru air.










Yippee!
__________________

Tiaren, Kampflamm, Titan Man, Bosi, Nando_ros and 11 others liked this post
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2016, 12:17 AM   #651
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

The afternoon was filled with celebrity's and Champagne





Like in the PIXSELS movie








Of course: There is always one looking the wrong direction!


The guy with the hair missing is the Stadt Schloss architect. Mr Kulka
He was also involved at Dresden Stadtschloss inside.
He used to hate re-construction. But the current trend following pays better and so he changed sides. His shoes look ridiculous












Thanks Potsdam-fan;-)
__________________

Kampflamm, Titan Man, Bosi, ILOVENY, Roman_P and 6 others liked this post
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2016, 12:37 AM   #652
Titan Man
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-nana
 
Titan Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Zadar
Posts: 593
Likes (Received): 722

Peter Kulka when asked about Neumarkt's reconstruction: "Why should we grant the wishes of retirees who only want to see their past once more?"
What a hypocrite, and a greedy one, as well...

Thank you, The Eagle, you're really doing a fantastic job with this thread, you don't know how excited I am when I see that the newest post here is by you, as I know we're getting a huge update from all the reconstruction works in the city.
__________________
If you build it, they'll come.
Titan Man no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2016, 09:55 AM   #653
Steinar37
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 37
Likes (Received): 27

This is fantastic news, just lovely to see the statues going back to the place they where always meant to be.

Of these 80 statues, are they all new, or repaired originals or untouched originals?

Thank you for these good pictures, hope to visit Potsdam one day.
__________________

The Eagle liked this post
Steinar37 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2016, 01:11 PM   #654
keepthepast
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 977
Likes (Received): 1677

Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan Man View Post
Peter Kulka when asked about Neumarkt's reconstruction: "Why should we grant the wishes of retirees who only want to see their past once more?"
Stupidity should hurt. This kind of comment should cause pain to this "architect" who let such words leave his ugly mouth.
__________________
keepthepast no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2016, 01:25 AM   #655
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

[QUOTE=Steinar37;132410897]This is fantastic news, just lovely to see the statues going back to the place they where always meant to be.

Of these 80 statues, are they all new, or repaired originals or untouched originals?

All new, all new! There are some statues that have survived, but have been put on the roof of the Humboldt University in Berlin. Somehow I am glad that the University is not giving them back, since it`s unlikely for the University to get new once.

But as you seen the discoloration on them two statues, there are statues and pieces of statues that people saved secretly. You see......Potsdam was always a hardcore royal supporter town. The DDR tried to settle Communists and lure locals with good jobs away to "replace" the indigenous people. Nazis had no stronghold either, but did nothing.

That means that some pieces have quite some story in them!!!
After the Schloss was blown up, plans where to demolish Potsdam completely to make people "receivable" to new ideas. It was when people sneaked out at night and took some pieces.
The guy sinning the demolition had said no as an example. More then 50 Soldiers where in his office in full uniform and his boss to show him "who is boss"!
Most people here in this forum forget: This is a f_____ miracle! People would have been arrested for defending world history in Germanys secret capital this was!

Pieces put together: 20 000 Euros later
[img][/img]

part of this

[img][/img]

The other one is new

[img][/img]source Potsdam-fan
__________________
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2016, 01:38 AM   #656
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

Ok- lets cover some other projects here

This is the plan for the construction of 10 more reconstructions and a bunch of fitting new designed homes!


source pnn,de

The red/black houses are interior ands exterior rebuilds and the red only are new fašade "old inspired".

The names Nikolaikirche means Nikolai church and the old Rathaus is of course the old Townhall
__________________

Titan Man, erbse, keepthepast liked this post
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2016, 01:51 AM   #657
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

I have a funny story about the Schloss Babelsberg.
Some people figured the windows are not original. Because the framework does not look old. Here you see why:



the windows are 2.50 m or 8 feet in the upper floor. 3 m or 10 feet windows in the middle floor!!
Turns out: that used to be the original when the build was completed!!!! The best the economy could provide back then!!!




Thank you, snork


The monastery on the same park grounds will be next! The cloister
__________________

Ludi, Titan Man, erbse, Chadoh25, robertwood and 1 others liked this post
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2016, 02:20 AM   #658
The Eagle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Halifax
Posts: 664
Likes (Received): 3523

I like to show a reconstruction not shown here before

It`s right next of Sanssouci the Private Schloss, the music pavilion!




It`s about this little pavilion! Really nice


The waterworks in front of Sanssouci. The statues are a gift from France!





The castle is a bungalow. Not made for presentation and the most important castle of all Potsdam.




The French gift! Ha-ha! Gift translates to poison in German




The reconstruction on the right. Sometimes it`s used for ticked paying musicals of that period. Tourists are sometimes getting free music performances during training!





source: unify
__________________

Last edited by The Eagle; May 3rd, 2016 at 02:47 AM.
The Eagle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2016, 03:02 PM   #659
erbse
LIBERTINED
 
erbse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: McLenBurg
Posts: 43,310
Likes (Received): 58029

Looks like that side of Sanssouci could need some paintjob in the not too distant future.

Patina is usually nice and all, but it doesn't suit one of the focal points of such a park all too well.
__________________
GET FREE!
D W F


🔥 Tradition doesn't mean to look after the ash, but to keep the flame alive! 🔥

Titan Man, robertwood liked this post
erbse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 3rd, 2016, 03:28 PM   #660
keepthepast
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 977
Likes (Received): 1677



It's more chipping than natural patina affect...which just looks under-maintained. Paint really doesn't patina; the painter actually needs to create a patina look with paint to achieve the old, worn, appeal. I'd be happy to show up with my paint bucket and brush to help out.
__________________

robertwood liked this post
keepthepast no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
potsdam, reconstruction

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu