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Old November 22nd, 2012, 03:58 AM   #61
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United States:
Hawaii, California and Florida happen to have great highways despite what american forumers say about them.

I give them an 8. (Not a 10 because some highways are badly congested and they need an urgent increase in capacity).

Argentina:
There are some highways that seemed to work well long time ago, now the infrastructure is in bad condition and their highway system isn't extensive enough.

I give them a 2.

Brazil:
Sao Paulo seems to have the best highways in all Latin America IMO, sadly the rest of the country has really bad highways and many of them I tried in other states where awful despite being opened not long ago.

I give them a 3.

Chile:
Expansive highway system although many of the chilean highways don't meet highway standards and they lack descent interchanges (mostly cloverleaves and diamonds), bad entrance lanes and bad exit lanes.

I give them a 4 for expansion but can't be rated higher because of the super low quality designs.


Colombia:

Not much to say about this, horrible roads and highways in all the country.

I give them a 1

Venezuela:

They seemed to have good highways back then, now just like Argentina the system hasn't expanded much and the highways aren't well mantained.

Can't give more than a 2.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 06:51 AM   #62
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Can anyone else think of another country that has an extensive network of rural, relatively lightly-trafficked freeways like the USA? It seems unique to me.
Freeways are not only for local use. They are also used by people who travel long distances (delivery trucks, people going on vacations, people who are moving to a far place). In Europe freeways are mostly used for long distance travels. If you want to go from Vancouver to Toronto, you have to go to the US and take I-90 or take the plane because Canada doesn't have fast-speed rails either.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 10:31 AM   #63
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It happens but it is not common so it doesn't represent real situation. This kind of pictures you can find for any country. Just type something like "bad road" in google. So stop trolling here.
No you can't. Not in western Europe anyway. Not even in Belgium. This is a very Polish road. And stating an opinion is not trolling.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:27 PM   #64
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The assessment of the road infrastructure in the latest Competitive Report of the World Economic Forum reads like this. They use a scale from 1 (underdeveloped) to 7 (efficient). The number in brackets are the rank among the 144 assessed countries.

Americas

United States - 5,7 (20)
Mexico - 4,5 (50)
Canada - 5,9 (16)
Argentina - 3,0 (106)
Brazil - 2,7 (123)
Chile - 5,6 (23)
Colombia - 2,6 (126)
Venezuela - 2,6 (128)

Europe

UK - 5,6 (24)
France - 6,5 (1)
Germany - 6,1 (10)
Italy - 4,3 (57)
Portugal - 6,4 (4)
Russia - 2,3 (136) of 144 viewed countries
Spain - 5,9 (13)
Denmark - 5,7 (19)
Poland - 2,6 (124) 2 ranks behind Serbia
Netherlands - 6,0 (11)
Austria - 6,3 (7)
Croatia - 5,3 (29)

Africa

South Africa - 4,9 (42)
Egypt - 2,9 (109)
Morocco - 4,0 (70)
Nigeria - 2,8 (114)

Asia

China - 4,4 (54)
Japan - 5,9 (14)
Turkey - 4,9 (43)
Iran - 4,0 (68)
India - 3,5 (86)
South Korea - 5,8 (17)
Indonesia - 3,4 (90)
Malaysia - 5,4 (27)
Thailand - 5,0 (39)
Philippines - 3,4 (87)

Oceania

Australia - 5,1 (36)
New Zealand - 4,9 (41)

The top 20 in this ranking are:

1 France ...........................................6.5
2 United Arab Emirates ........................6.5
3 Singapore .......................................6.5
4 Portugal .........................................6.4
5 Oman .............................................6.4
6 Switzerland .....................................6.4
7 Austria ...........................................6.3
8 Hong Kong SAR ................................6.3
9 Finland ...........................................6.1
10 Germany .......................................6.1
11 Netherlands ...................................6.0
12 Saudi Arabia ..................................6.0
13 Spain ............................................5.9
14 Japan ............................................5.9
15 Luxembourg ....................................5.9
16 Canada ..........................................5.9
17 Korea, Rep. ....................................5.8
18 Bahrain ..........................................5.8
19 Denmark ........................................5.7
20 United States .................................5.7
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:28 PM   #65
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In conclusion, everything has to be compared to Serbia.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:38 PM   #66
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The assessment of the road infrastructure in the latest Competitive Report of the World Economic Forum reads like this. They use a scale from 1 (underdeveloped) to 7 (efficient). The number in brackets are the rank among the 144 assessed countries.

Americas

United States - 5,7 (20)
Mexico - 4,5 (50)
Canada - 5,9 (16)
Argentina - 3,0 (106)
Brazil - 2,7 (123)
Chile - 5,6 (23)
Colombia - 2,6 (126)
Venezuela - 2,6 (128)

Europe

UK - 5,6 (24)
France - 6,5 (1)
Germany - 6,1 (10)
Italy - 4,3 (57)
Portugal - 6,4 (4)
Russia - 2,3 (136) of 144 viewed countries
Spain - 5,9 (13)
Denmark - 5,7 (19)
Poland - 2,6 (124) 2 ranks behind Serbia
Netherlands - 6,0 (11)
Austria - 6,3 (7)
Croatia - 5,3 (29)

Africa

South Africa - 4,9 (42)
Egypt - 2,9 (109)
Morocco - 4,0 (70)
Nigeria - 2,8 (114)

Asia

China - 4,4 (54)
Japan - 5,9 (14)
Turkey - 4,9 (43)
Iran - 4,0 (68)
India - 3,5 (86)
South Korea - 5,8 (17)
Indonesia - 3,4 (90)
Malaysia - 5,4 (27)
Thailand - 5,0 (39)
Philippines - 3,4 (87)

Oceania

Australia - 5,1 (36)
New Zealand - 4,9 (41)

The top 20 in this ranking are:

1 France ...........................................6.5
2 United Arab Emirates ........................6.5
3 Singapore .......................................6.5
4 Portugal .........................................6.4
5 Oman .............................................6.4
6 Switzerland .....................................6.4
7 Austria ...........................................6.3
8 Hong Kong SAR ................................6.3
9 Finland ...........................................6.1
10 Germany .......................................6.1
11 Netherlands ...................................6.0
12 Saudi Arabia ..................................6.0
13 Spain ............................................5.9
14 Japan ............................................5.9
15 Luxembourg ....................................5.9
16 Canada ..........................................5.9
17 Korea, Rep. ....................................5.8
18 Bahrain ..........................................5.8
19 Denmark ........................................5.7
20 United States .................................5.7
No way Italy is worse than South Africa, Turkey, Malaysia and Thailand.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:54 PM   #67
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The assessment of the road infrastructure in the latest Competitive Report of the World Economic Forum reads like this.
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How would you assess the roads in your country?
Assessment based on what people think? Not very objective.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 12:06 AM   #68
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Assessment based on what people think? Not very objective.
That's true. There are not any objective figures, statistic datas, so it's hard to recognize the report.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 12:39 AM   #69
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The assessment of the road infrastructure in the latest Competitive Report of the World Economic Forum reads like this. They use a scale from 1 (underdeveloped) to 7 (efficient). The number in brackets are the rank among the 144 assessed countries.

Americas

United States - 5,7 (20)
Mexico - 4,5 (50)
Canada - 5,9 (16)
Argentina - 3,0 (106)
Brazil - 2,7 (123)
Chile - 5,6 (23)
Colombia - 2,6 (126)
Venezuela - 2,6 (128)

Europe

UK - 5,6 (24)
France - 6,5 (1)
Germany - 6,1 (10)
Italy - 4,3 (57)
Portugal - 6,4 (4)
Russia - 2,3 (136) of 144 viewed countries
Spain - 5,9 (13)
Denmark - 5,7 (19)
Poland - 2,6 (124) 2 ranks behind Serbia
Netherlands - 6,0 (11)
Austria - 6,3 (7)
Croatia - 5,3 (29)

Africa

South Africa - 4,9 (42)
Egypt - 2,9 (109)
Morocco - 4,0 (70)
Nigeria - 2,8 (114)

Asia

China - 4,4 (54)
Japan - 5,9 (14)
Turkey - 4,9 (43)
Iran - 4,0 (68)
India - 3,5 (86)
South Korea - 5,8 (17)
Indonesia - 3,4 (90)
Malaysia - 5,4 (27)
Thailand - 5,0 (39)
Philippines - 3,4 (87)

Oceania

Australia - 5,1 (36)
New Zealand - 4,9 (41)

The top 20 in this ranking are:

1 France ...........................................6.5
2 United Arab Emirates ........................6.5
3 Singapore .......................................6.5
4 Portugal .........................................6.4
5 Oman .............................................6.4
6 Switzerland .....................................6.4
7 Austria ...........................................6.3
8 Hong Kong SAR ................................6.3
9 Finland ...........................................6.1
10 Germany .......................................6.1
11 Netherlands ...................................6.0
12 Saudi Arabia ..................................6.0
13 Spain ............................................5.9
14 Japan ............................................5.9
15 Luxembourg ....................................5.9
16 Canada ..........................................5.9
17 Korea, Rep. ....................................5.8
18 Bahrain ..........................................5.8
19 Denmark ........................................5.7
20 United States .................................5.7
This report can be put in the ass, is so honest and true... (I'm sorry for the words)
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 04:41 PM   #70
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No you can't. Not in western Europe anyway. Not even in Belgium. This is a very Polish road. And stating an opinion is not trolling.




Some more from THE Western Europe?
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No way Italy is worse than South Africa, Turkey, Malaysia and Thailand.
I thought the same, but didn't want to sound nationalistic, which I'm not.
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The Belgian road is wider, it has better road markings and could even be lit at night. The ruts alone don't put both roads on the same level.
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No way Italy is worse than South Africa, Turkey, Malaysia and Thailand.
I presume you have been to all of these countries. Otherwise you wouldn't be so determined, would you.
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No way Italy is worse than South Africa, Turkey, Malaysia and Thailand.
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Brazil worse than Egypt and Nigeria.
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I presume you have been to all of these countries.
There's no need to be there. Malaysia has 1600 km of motorways, Thailand only 145. One hundred forty-five. Italy's motorways are 6600 km long. Just this fact shows how rubbish those statistics are.
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Perhaps the list is based on quality, not quantity.
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Perhaps the list is based on quality, not quantity.
Maybe, but you cannot compare 145 km of network against 6600, or more. Statistics are useful, but they must be made with a grain of salt.
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I thought the same, but didn't want to sound nationalistic, which I'm not.
It's not nationalism, I would have said the same if they had put another western Europe country behind those countries.
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There's no need to be there. Malaysia has 1600 km of motorways, Thailand only 145. One hundred forty-five. Italy's motorways are 6600 km long. Just this fact shows how rubbish those statistics are.
The WEF assessed the entire road networks of countries. Not just motorways.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 06:16 PM   #80
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Some more from THE Western Europe?
That is actually one of the better quality of roads to be found in Belgium. Unfortunately it has been damaged by lorries. Not an uncommon sight in Belgium, and Belgium has the worst quality of roads in western Europe.

However:


This is apparently in Poland. You can't find a road like that anywhere in Belgium. I have driven on a lot of roads like that in Poland. Very uncomfortable driving!

Stop defending your country so much. Poland is a fine country, with lovely city's, villages and countryside. Just accept the problem...
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