Why is the Titanic being "celebrated" so much?

[George Bramwell]

Originally Posted by Conor

To end this debate btw... All this has shown is that Titanic can't belong to any one city. It was built and fitted in Belfast, designed by a local man and a team of engineers in the city. However it was registered in Liverpool, by a Liverpool based company and conceived in the city. Most of the crew were based in Southampton, and this was where the ship made its main stop-off as well as where it was stocked with supplies. It's undeniable that all 3 places have as strong a connection to titanic as each other, but it just so happens that Belfast got there first at the end of the day.

The bulk of crews were hired for each voyage, or a series of voyages. If Titanic left from Liverpool it would have had a predominately Liverpool crew. It was to stop in Liverpool on the way to Southampton, but that was changed at the last minute (maybe because of the coal strike) a lot more of the crew then would have been from Liverpool. The top essential core of the crew were from mainly from Liverpool or Liverpool based - like all the top engineers.

[George Bramwell]

Originally Posted by Mr Bricks

I'm really happy for Belfast to see this project come to fruition, however, the Titanic was a British steamer which happened to built in Belfast. It doesn't make it Irish or Belfastian. Most of the world's largest vessels today are built in Finland - that doesn't make them Finnish though.

Spot on. Many of the components were built elsewhere. Engines, control equipment, brass fitting, props, etc. Does anyone regard Queens Mary & Elizabeth as being Glasgow ships. The port associated with them is Southampton, although having Liverpool on the sterns.

[George Bramwell]

"During Titanic’s construction, 246 injuries were recorded, 28 of them “severe”, involving severed arms by machines or legs crushed under falling pieces of steel.

Six workers died on the ship itself while it was being constructed another two died in the shipyard workshops and sheds. Just before the launch, a worker was killed from a falling wooden support."

Appalling. Add another 9 deaths to those at sea.

[Mr Bricks]

Originally Posted by Boba Fett22

Seriously?

Yep. Bar the Queen Mary II, which is infact an ocean linerand not an awful cruise ship. However, the Allure of the Seas, the Oasis of the Seas, the Freedom of the Seas, the Liberty of the Seas, the Independence of the Seas etc were all built in Turku, Finland.

[indiekid]

Originally Posted by George Bramwell

Spot on. Many of the components were built elsewhere. Engines, control equipment, brass fitting, props, etc. Does anyone regard Queens Mary & Elizabeth as being Glasgow ships. The port associated with them is Southampton, although having Liverpool on the sterns.

Bit late, but yes they are "clydebuilt".

Term Once applied Meaning 'Quality', refers to the once thriving Shipbuilding industry on the River Clyde in Scotland. Greenock, Clydebank, and Glasgow were home to most of the Clyde Shipyards.
Some examples : Had the Titanic been Clydebuilt it would still be afloat! ''I thought it was built in Ireland?'' Yea! nuff said!

[spider74]

Belfast...



Liverpool.........so cute..

[Boba Fett22]

I have nothing against the Titanic ship, (sorry about the deaths).

It annoys me and many others in Belfast the way people think it was the only ship we built.

[JD47]

Originally Posted by Boba Fett22

I have nothing against the Titanic ship, (sorry about the deaths).

It annoys me and many others in Belfast the way people think it was the only ship we built.

It was was'nt it

[Boba Fett22]

Not at all there was a whole ship building industry here going back to the 1860s/1870s.

I mean this with the greatest respect but oh no please tell me people don't think that

Harland and Wolff was set up as a ship building company and they built a whole lot more than Titanic. Uniguy can fill you in better if he reads this.

For example during WW2, the company built 140 ships [probably of various sizes] despite being bombed. It was one of the reasons the Nazis bombed us.

We built HMS Olympic (Titanic's sister ship) as well as HMS Canberra and others.

Some guy was on local radio and he said that Titanic is hyped so much that you'd think it was the only ship built here, but that isn't the case.

At one stage 30,000 people were employed in H + W. We had one of the largest ship building places in the world.

Here's a list of some of the ships built here.

http://www.belfasthistory.net/belfas..._building.html

[belfastuniguy]

I think he was being funny Boba....I don't think JD thinks that Belfast only build a couple of ships.

[JD47]

Originally Posted by belfastuniguy

I think he was being funny Boba....I don't think JD thinks that Belfast only build a couple of ships.

Your right. I was only joking

[Boba Fett22]

Either way no probs.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by spider74

Belfast...



Liverpool.........so cute..

What an utterly pointless post. A pic of one of the Olympic class ships being built in one a century ago, and an almost contemporary one of a retired light ship in Liverpool city centre. I fail to see the connection, unless you're referring to Albion House, the White Star headquarters on the left of the Liverpool pic.

[Boba Fett22]

I can't believe a thread about one ship has spawned a 6 page thread.

(I know I'm not innocent.)