Devo Max for London?

[Nathan Dawz]

Originally Posted by Brum X

Birmingham is defo more populous, more economically powerful than dear old Manc.

Second highest GDP outside London and should be treated with respect by an northern upstart like Manchester.

Aww, bless!

[Brum X]

A mayor for Birmingham will be another step in the right direction if they are given similar powers to Boris, but i doubt it.

[Nathan Dawz]

Indeed a Mayor for Birmingham (not Wolverhampton, Coventry, et al).

Unlike the muscular, all-conquering GMCA which holds sway across all tribes in Greater Manchester.

[Brum X]

Originally Posted by Nathan Dawz

Indeed a Mayor for Birmingham (not Wolverhampton, Coventry, et al).

Unlike the muscular, all-conquering GMCA which holds sway across all tribes in Greater Manchester.

Awwww Bless

[tuten]

Originally Posted by albionfagan

talking with a decent accent

[MattN]

Originally Posted by Jonesy55

Frankfurt, Munich, Stuttgart, Hamburg, Dusseldorf etc were all in West Germany all that time....

Milan is the financial centre while other cities in northern Italy are richer than Rome which is still well off though because of the presence of government.

Barcelona and Madrid are both important in Spain while the small cities in the Basque region are as rich as either of those.

Of the big countries only France is really in a similar position to the UK.

And as far as things like transport projects (which this thread has focused on) are concerned, even France has done far more outside Paris than we have outside London.

[Brum X]

Originally Posted by MattN

And as far as things like transport projects (which this thread has focused on) are concerned, even France has done far more outside Paris than we have outside London.

Maybe things like HS2 are a step in the right direction then ??????

[MattN]

Possibly, though not only have they built high speed railways to most corners of the country but (having just looked it up) there are also Metro systems in 5 cities outside Paris, tram systems in 21 cities outside Paris with more on the way...

In 2000 Labour had a policy to build about 20 tram systems by 2010, that was dropped very quickly and we have seen no sign of the government changing its mind on that since.

[LondonFox]

The northern cities are doomed if all you northerners seem to do is squabble about which second rate city is playing a distant second fiddle to London...

Pool your resources... get an umbrella government.. and start working together for more clout...

It reminds me of a space programme I watched not too long ago about galaxies.. the smaller ones join together and make bigger ones that in turn suck in more smaller ones and then in the end you are left with one large solar mass that dominates everything... thats London now...

The northern cities could work on becoming like the small ones merging together and go from there.. then in the future the UK could have two huge masses...

.. like the Milky Way and Andromeda ... which are on a course for collision too... to make a super massive solar mass... then the UK could just turn into a massive city...

... like Coruscant!

[Jonny Gee]

where are the wheelie bins?

[LondonFox]

I'm guessing they float about on rocket packs? and fly themselves to the dump... (what used to be known as Scotland)

[WatcherZero]

where are the wheelie bins?

Originally Posted by LondonFox

I'm guessing they float about on rocket packs? and fly themselves to the dump...

Garderobes!

Why fly to the dump when you can just take a dump on the people below?

[Manc Guy]

Amusing the OP started this thread with apparent curiosity, yet has gradually turned into a bit of an arse.

[LondonFox]

Originally Posted by Manc Guy

Amusing the OP started this thread with apparent curiosity, yet has gradually turned into a bit of an arse.

The subject seems to have been exhausted .. I was initially curious but now not so much. If you've got nothing remotely interesting to add.. stfu.

[heatonparkincakes]

Originally Posted by LondonFox

The subject seems to have been exhausted .. I was initially curious but now not so much. If you've got nothing remotely interesting to add.. stfu.

Well it's sky bar isn't it.

I would have liked a keen and intelligent conversation about how devolved powers could be achieved, what powers they would be, how this would be financed and how this inter plays with the National government and the other nations and regions.

But no, it's a pretty picture of a future Wolverhampton and a French medieval bog.

Enjoy!

[State of London]

In the question of devomax for London, phehaps looking at the contents of this thread might be of interest:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1595633

[State of London]

The problem is that London suffers from the fact it gives more to Westminster than it gets back and yet there is underinvestment and spending cuts.

Plus a lot of the polices they have done have gone againt the interests of London...

[Ultima]

Originally Posted by State of London

The problem is that London suffers from the fact it gives more to Westminster than it gets back and yet there is underinvestment and spending cuts.

Plus a lot of the polices they have done have gone againt the interests of London...

[State of London]

Originally Posted by Ultima

Well despite the fact we have a lot of investment compared to the rest of the UK, it is not enough, all you have to do is look at transport, health, police and our schools...

As for the question of Pacers, well my local train is the Class 315 (which is rubbish...)

[Ultima]

Originally Posted by State of London

Well despite the fact we have a lot of investment compared to the rest of the UK, it is not enough, all you have to do is look at transport, health, police and our schools...

As for the question of Pacers, well my local train is the Class 315 (which is rubbish...)

If it isn't enough then London is no longer viable. It received unparalleled investment compared to its neighbours. You've discredited your argument.