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Old January 8th, 2015, 01:48 PM   #281
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Love to see the subway move outwards.......
There has been so much talk of extending the line.....
But, will anything happen?


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Old January 9th, 2015, 03:33 AM   #282
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Probably not. The unique gauge means it's not possible to run trains on regular track then into the subway which would be the cheapest way of extending it. The east circle would serve an area already well served by trains, not a lot of point really. Two circles would mean that journeys from the east to the west would take quite a bit of time - probably easier to just take a regular train and walk..
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Old January 9th, 2015, 06:53 PM   #283
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i wouldnt call it "well served by trains". I tryed to get from Partick to Highstreet. The next train was in 30min. So i took the subway and walked. It took less time and cost 1,60 instead of 2,20.
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Old January 10th, 2015, 03:40 AM   #284
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Must've been something wrong then, just had a look at the timetable and the biggest scheduled gap seems to be about ~18min. From about 7am there's 6tph+ doing that route..
Point still stands that there's probably not any time savings for the average traveller and it'd cost billions..
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Maybe there is just a need of more trains?
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Old January 10th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #286
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Trains along that stretch range from 6-11tph, waiting times are about 10min off peak, 6min peak (rough average).

I heard that the stretch from Partick to Hyndland was nearing capacity? Looks like in the morning and evening peak periods there are 17tph doing that stretch so might not be anything that can be done other than 4 tracking or reusing the Botanics line to turn around some trains
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Old January 13th, 2015, 05:01 PM   #287
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Kelvinbridge station prepares for a new look
Posted 6 January 2015



SPT has appointed Graham Construction to carry out preparatory works at Kelvinbridge to get the Subway ready for modernisation.

The work will take place within the station’s lower concourse level. Temporary walls and flooring will be erected to enable the discrete removal of tiling, flooring and walls while inspection and repairs get underway. Those temporary surfaces are envisaged to remain in place until winter 2015.

SPT will then progress with a full scale modernisation of Kelvinbride station to make it a bright, modern and more accessible facility. The look will be similar to Hillhead, Kelvinhall, Partick, Ibrox and St Enoch stations.

The majority of preparatory works will take place during Subway operational hours. Although some additional noise may be generated as a result, SPT and Graham Construction are committed to keeping any disruption to a minimum

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Old January 14th, 2015, 01:49 AM   #288
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Very good, I use Kelvinbridge regularly!
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Old January 14th, 2015, 02:13 AM   #289
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Maybe there is just a need of more trains?
As Duke also alludes to, the main problem is the convergance between the North Clyde and Argyle Lines at Partick. The line runs elevated through a dense bit of the city, so it's only double track. However there is usually a train every 10 minutes on either of those lines during off-peak.

These lines lie somewhere in between commuter rail and metro in terms of capacity and frequency. It's good by National Rail standards, and very handy for people who live in the West and East parts of inner Glasgow, but it's not quite to the standard where it can be used as a proper Metro line.

Still though, Glasgow's network of local railway lines is the largest outside of London, both in terms of passenger usage, number of stations, and possibly even route miles (but someone will need to clarify/correct me on that one). I live about two/three miles from the city centre, I have access to two different lines and can be at Central within 15 minutes. It's a great network. Return tickets are much cheaper than two singles, and are far more affordable than the buses.

On Subway expansion, it's more likely that any big future transport infrastructure will focus on heavy rail. The Scottish Government run the show with infrastructure, and so naturally they will build something which benefits a wider region of the country rather than Greater Glasgow itself.

Glasgow City Council and the SPT have no real power or funds to expand upon the local transport network already in place. They have, in the past, used funds to do some very light research into where a new Subway line should be, but with the existing line badly in need of repair, new tracks and new trains, the resources had to be put there, and I believe a lot of that came from the Scottish Government.

The big bits of transport infrastructure coming to Glasgow in the near future:

- EGIP - Electrification of the main commuter line to Edinburgh, with massive redevelopment of Queen Street.
- New Airport Rail Link - Could be a Tram-Train or heavy rail

Proposed:

- High Speed Rail - Ministers announced plans for a High Speed Rail line linking Glasgow and Edinburgh as a first step towards integration with the proposed English network.

All of these developments will have knock on effects to the rest of the network, especially with regards to capacity issues at Glasgow Central, which could conceivably involve very large infrastructure works (North/South Crossrail tunnel, e.g).

I really doubt we will ever see a new Subway line in Glasgow any time soon unless the way in which the country and it's large cities are run changes dramatically, and Glasgow's population starts rising at an improbable rate. However, once all of the heavy rail improvements are in place, the city will be able to focus on linking it all up with high capacity light rail routes, for example, or establishing new interchanges at important junctions.

If I was in charge, I would definitely order new trains for Glasgow which fit the purpose of moving large amounts of people within the city (more poles/straps, less seats, more doors) and put more effort into separating the suburban network from the rest of the national network, even if just with different branding and integrated ticketing with local transport.

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Old January 20th, 2015, 01:55 PM   #290
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St Enoch station canopy heralds arrival of revamped subway network

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A revamped entrance canopy to St Enoch station subway station has taken its place at the foot of Glasgow’s Buchanan Street following redevelopment work carried out by AHR Architects and Graham Construction on behalf of Strathclyde Partnership for Transport.

Part of a wider £288m upgrade of the subway network its completion will allow attention to switch to a twin canopy to the south of St Enoch Square, following earlier refurbishment of the concourse and platform levels, with full completion anticipated later this year.

It is one of seven station refurbishments on the network intended to modernise services and impart a unified design approach to the system, with Hillhead and Partick amongst the first to benefit from a makeover.

Erected over the course of a single night-shift the glasshouse inspired portal consists of rolled tee arches tied together by longitudinal steel rods.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 11:03 AM   #291
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Official from SPT:

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St Enoch Modernisation update
23 January 2015



The new look St Enoch station continues to take shape with a second glass and steel canopy soon to be installed at the Howard Street (south facing) entrance.

This canopy is an exact replica of the Argyle Street entrance, which is close to completion.

Finishing touches to the north entrance are underway, as new lighting columns are about to be installed

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Old February 3rd, 2015, 10:26 PM   #292
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In Subway news... First sign of progress with new rolling stock.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile...ains.117533394

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Mind the gape: prepare for new driverless Subway trains with viewing deck windows at each end



PASSENGERS using Scotland's only underground system will be able watch their journeys from giant windows at either end of the trains if the companies bidding to design the new Glasgow Subway fleet replicate the designs they have rolled out in other cities.



New rolling stock is about to be ordered as part of the network's biggest upgrade in 35 years.

Two shortlisted groups are in the running for the £200 million contract to build the new trains and automated signalling as part of a massive modernisation of the city's Victorian underground system, which is the third oldest in the world.

Strathclyde Partnership for Transport, which operates the Subway, is expected to switch to driverless trains, potentially paving the way to replacing the driver's cab with passenger seating and a giant viewing window where commuters can look directly out at the Subway's tunnels.

Both the bidders have supplied driverless trains to other metros in Europe and North America which have this "viewing deck" design feature at either end of the trains.

Italian firm Ansaldo, which built driverless trains for the Copenhagen metro, is understood to have teamed up with Swiss company Stadler Rail and UK engineering giant, Babcock, to bid for the contract.

Its rivals are believed to be CAF, which built Edinburgh's trams, and France's Thales, which helped construct the driverless SkyTrain network in Vancouver.

Viewing windows at either of the train have proven popular with passengers using London's Dockland Light Railway, the only other UK metro system which boasts the design feature.

Simon Johnston, editor of Tramways & Urban Transit magazine, said: "To be able to sit and look out at the front and back makes for a more dramatic journey.

"On the DLR, these seats are the ones which are always occupied first."

The bidders will have to get to grips with the Glasgow Subway's unique measurements, however.

The six-mile circular gauge - the distance between the rails - is 20cm narrower than standard. This was set by the rail firms which built the underground in the 1800s to prevent rivals running their trains on it.

As well as the new fleet, the contract will see the construction of safety screens along the platform edges which will only open once the train has stopped.

The £300m modernisation programme, which began in 2011, includes upgrades of all 15 stations, the installation of new escalators, and major improvements of the systems tunnel lining to improve safety and reduce water seepage.

SPT said it was too early to comment on the design specifications for the new Subway fleet.

A spokeswoman said: "We are progressing with two bidders through the final stages of the procurement of new bespoke trains, automated signalling, control room and associated system improvements, such as platform screen doors.

"We will provide a recommendation on the award of the contract - and commencement of delivery - to our partnership board later this year."
And, in Glasgow Airport Tram-Train news... Probably won't start until the next decade.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/transpo...nges-1-3678296

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Glasgow tram-train link plan poses ‘challenges’



A PLANNED tram-train link to Glasgow Airport presents “significant challenges” such as potentially delaying or cutting other trains on the line they would share, a Transport Scotland report showed today.

An update on the project by the Scottish Government agency said a “significant impact” was likely on trains on the main Paisley-Glasgow line - one of Scotland’s busiest routes.

Tram-trains that could run on rail lines to the city centre are seen by ministers as a possible alternative to the Glasgow Airport Rail Link (Garl), which they cancelled in 2009 to save money.

A report last year showed the scheme could cost £92 million - less then half as much as a rail link - but be able to carry as many passengers.

Tram-trains would run on a dedicated line from the airport terminal then continue to Glasgow on the rail line from Paisley.

The report said there were “constraints on line capacity” on the approach to Glasgow Central Station for the planned four services an hour to the airport.

It also said platform capacity at the station was “very limited” - despite two extra platforms being built for airport trains.

The report added: “The complexity of resolving the issues at Glasgow Central could impact on the timescales for delivering a fixed link to Glasgow Airport.

However, the report said this could be solved by removing some trains from Central Station to create space for tram-trains, or running tram-trains on streets into the city centre.

The report also highlighted that a long-delayed trial of tram-trains near Sheffield would have to be completed to be “absolutely definitive” it was technically feasible to run them on rail lines.

However, it stated: “The indications from the pilot are positive so far.”

A key consideration is likely to be the safety risk of tram-trains running alongside faster, heavier trains.

The report also referred to the “risk that the on-going service operation will require on-going financial support”, although most ScotRail train services are loss making.

A Scottish Government spokesman said: “The study makes clear there are significant challenges to the delivery of a tram-train link, which would raise financial, technical and operational issues.

“As well as the cost to taxpayers, we have particular concerns at the disruption the scheme would have on rail passengers and existing services – including the risk that journey times would actually increase and the frequency of other services be reduced.”

“It is clear from the feasibility study that there remains a great deal of preparatory work and assessment to be done before a decision can be taken on the best option to improving surface access to Glasgow Airport.”

The project would be funded under a £1.3 billion “City Deal” for investment in Glasgow, agreed last year between the UK and Scottish Governments

The report said tram-trains would take 20.5 minutes to reach the airport from the city centre - just 90 seconds quicker than airport buses.

Business groups, which had expressed their “profound disagreement” with Garl being scrapped, said they still backed a new link to the airport.

Scottish Chambers of Commerce chief executive Liz Cameron said: “Any major infrastructure project has its challenges, but these are there to be overcome.

“The goal that everyone needs to focus on is creating the world-class infrastructure that will help our businesses and economy to prosper.”

Scottish Council Development & Industry policy director Gareth Williams said: “Capacity on the rail network was always going to be a challenge and we welcome this study as identifying the issues which need to be addressed.”

A Glasgow Airport spokesman said: “It is widely recognised that transport links to the airport need to be enhanced.

“Any important infrastructure project will include elements that require further investigation and design development. This will happen as the project progresses.”
The capacity restraints at Glasgow Central will become a very pressing issue in the next decade. The Scottish Government have highlighted a few solutions as part of a report made a few years ago.

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Old February 12th, 2015, 03:13 PM   #293
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Work to get ready for modernisation of Kelvinbridge station commences
Posted 10 February 2015



Subway passengers travelling through Kelvinbridge station will notice that the works announced last month have now started.

Some of the changes that customers may notice are hoardings being put in place at the lower concourse level, which will narrow the passage to the platform slightly. This is to allow workmen to carry out maintenance work to walls. Tiles will also be lifted from the floor and a temporary surface will be put in place and we would ask customers to take extra care when they make their way through the station

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Old February 17th, 2015, 09:37 PM   #294
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Argyle Line Central LL getting a 'facelift'

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Saw it earlier. Looks like it'll be much better. About halfway done so far by the looks of things.

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SPT to invest £7 Million in new look Govan Interchange
24/03/2015



Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT) will seek approval from members on Friday 27 March to commit just over £7 million to modernise Govan Interchange.

A paper going to SPT’s Strategy & Programmes Committee outlines a proposal to award the construction contract to Graham Construction – worth a total of £7,164,382. On Site Consultancy Support Services are also required for the duration of the works and the paper recommends a contract for up to £176,091is awarded to AHR Architects Ltd

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Second St. Enoch station entrance is taking shape:

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