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| View Poll Results: WHo will you vote for? | |||
| Siobhan Benita |
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5 | 9.43% |
| Carlos Cortiglia |
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0 | 0% |
| Boris Johnson |
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15 | 28.30% |
| Jenny Jones |
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2 | 3.77% |
| Ken Livingstone |
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27 | 50.94% |
| Brian Paddick |
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2 | 3.77% |
| Lawrence Webb |
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0 | 0% |
| None of the above |
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2 | 3.77% |
| Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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#41 |
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Siobhan Benita, one of the only sensible candidates with her head screwed on.
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Thermobaric Thagomizer
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Boris v Ken: who should get your vote?
19 April, 2012 | By Merlin Fulcher From Architects Journal With only a fortnight until the London mayor 2012 polls close, Merlin Fulcher breaks down the housing, planning and transport pledges of front-runners Boris Johnson and Ken Livingstone and explains how their manifestos affect the profession The race for London’s new mayor is hotting up. With power over planning, the Olympic Legacy and regeneration, the ultimate victor will have a profound influence over the lives and projects of architects working in the capital. However, with only a fortnight to go until the polls close on 3 May, the profession has yet to single out a favourite. The most divisive issue for the two front-runners could be housing. Labour candidate and former mayor Ken Livingstone raised eyebrows last week over his pledge to make half of all new homes affordable – a rule previously scrapped by Conservative mayoral candidate and incumbent Boris Johnson. Developments involving loss of social housing without replacement would be blocked. Labour peer Richard Rogers welcomed the policy’s potential resurrection, which he said would ‘break down poor and rich ghettos.’ Rogers also backed Livingstone’s plans for a London-wide non-profit lettings agency and for future construction to be on previously developed land to prevent ‘urban sprawl’. However, Berman Guedes Stretton director Bruce Cockburn warned a similar ‘50 per cent rule’ in Oxford had had ‘a desperate effect on the supply of housing, which is now almost non-existent’. He said: ‘Applying this rule hammers land value to such an extent that developers will build anything before housing.’ Livingstone, who won the AJ100 ‘greatest contribution to the profession’ award in 2009, would also encourage modular eco-housing and council house-building, and has pledged to use mayoral planning powers to make it easier for ‘rapidly-expanding’ churches to gain planning permission, especially concerning opposition to ‘change of use’ applications. In constrast, Johnson has promised to deliver 55,000 affordable homes by 2015 and invest £821 million to improve 45,000 council houses. He has also launched a £5 billion London Development Panel to oversee housing in the capital. Studio Octopi’s Chris Romer-Lee said: ‘The only real difference between Livingstone and Johnson is on rents. As a small practice looking to get into affordable housing, we would like to know how any new mayor will embrace innovation in housing and control design standards.’ Ben Derbyshire, managing director of HTA, urged the candidates to promote ‘substantial institutional investment’ in private rented development and to scrap the coalition’s ‘anti-garden grabbing’ stance, which Johnson has pledged to uphold. He also recommended a repeal of the ‘Right to Light legislation which creates a nightmare of complexity for developers.’ Liberal Democrat candidate Brian Paddick claimed he would create 40,000 homes above shops while Jenny Jones for the Green Party has promised a ban on foreign property investors. In relation to transport issues, the mayoral frontrunners’ opposing views about Norman Foster’s £50 billion Thames Estuary Airport proposal for the Isle of Grain in Kent will also split voters. Johnson has long promoted the idea of a hub airport east of the capital but Livingstone has made scrapping the proposals a key part of his election manifesto. Though openly pro-development, Livingstone said in his manifesto he would ‘not waste any more Londoners’ money and will scrap this plan,’ claiming the four-runway airport would ‘ultimately close Heathrow’. He also ruled out a third runway at Heathrow. ADP chair Roger FitzGerald said without an estuary airport London risked becoming a ‘transport backwater’ and called for a ‘decisive’ and long-term strategy for London’s future. ‘Infrastructure, particularly transport, is the key. Whoever can grasp this challenge deserves to be the next mayor.’ The London mayoral contenders Boris Johnson Conservative, London mayor 2008 - present Boris Johnson POLICIES Housing £5 billion London Development Panel launched Deliver 55,000 affordable homes by 2015 Campaign against rent controls Larger new homes and better design standards £821 million to improve 45,000 council houses Maintain presumption against ‘back garden’ development Empty homes to constitute less than 1 per cent of stock Transport Lobby for Thames Estuary hub airport and block third Heathrow runway Explore Thames crossing between Vauxhall and Chelsea bridges Extend Northern Line to Battersea Extend the ‘Boris bike’ scheme No High Speed 2 without Crossrail 2 funding Improve rundown suburban rail stations Extend DLR from Lewisham to Bromley Tramlink extension to Crystal Palace Road tunnel from Greenwich Peninsula to Silvertown within 10 years Growth Look at a ‘Barnett’ style funding mechanism for London £221 million regeneration fund to support small businesses Support a science institute on the Olympic Park £221 million to transform local high streets Environment Roll out 1,300 electric car-charging points by 2013 Plant 20,000 extra street trees Restore 120 hectares of green space Create 100 ‘pocket parks’ Upgrade London’s ‘look and feel’ Ken Livingstone, Labour, London mayor 2000-2008 Ken Livingstone Ken Livingstone POLICIES Housing ‘Tough’ planning regulations so private developments meet wider needs Encourage council house building 50 per cent of new homes to be affordable Encourage modular eco-housing Developments that involve a loss of social housing without replacement to be blocked London non-profi t lettings agency to reduce rents Transport Make a third of all tube stations step-free by 2016 Redesign cycle superhighways and invite Tour de France back to London Scrap plans for a Thames Estuary hub airport and no new runway at Heathrow Crossrail to be extended to Ebbsfl eet, with Crossrail 2 supported and Crossrail 3 safeguarded Extend Croydon Tramlink to Crystal Palace Growth Support ‘rapidlyexpanding’ churches to gain planning permission Support for ‘tech city’ around London’s fringe Equal pay for women to be championed Environment Free home insulation for those in fuel poverty Public realm programmes to be extended Create an ‘uninterrupted’ central London pedestrian network linking the Thames, Trafalgar Square, Soho and Covent Garden Review cycle hire scheme to make it appeal to wider range of Londoners Expand traffic-free ‘Greenways’ cycle routes connecting suburbs |
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Thermobaric Thagomizer
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"Support ‘rapidly expanding’ churches to gain planning permission"
I find this completely bizarre as a policy. "50 per cent of new homes to be affordable" I think this is a bad idea, and as the article says has been a disaster in Oxford for obvious reasons. |
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Thermobaric Thagomizer
Join Date: May 2005
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Well, Jenny Jones has lost my second preference vote with some idiotic comment about getting rid of city airport. I am actually starting to really dislike Ken and am considering voting Boris to keep him away from the job.
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SPURRED
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Interesting, my results reflect exactly how I am planning to vote. Unless I go the vote Boris, keep out Ken route:
Paddick: 24.6% Benita: 22.5% Boris: 15.8% Ken: 11.3% Jones: 2.5% BNP: -8.5% |
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Bill Randby, Yo.
Join Date: Apr 2010
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while i don't really give a dick about london's mayoral erections, isn't boris the only candidate willing to address the need for greater air travel capacity in the south east?
i don't care if he's killing babies (or whatever it is livingstone says he's doing) - he'd get my vote on that alone. |
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SPURRED
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Ken 35%
Siobhan 29.2% JJ 22.5% Paddick 17.1% Boris 11.7% UKIP -11.2% That doesn't necessarily reflect how I'll vote though. Not sure yet. |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Brian Paddick: 18.3%
Boris Johnson: 14.3% Siobhan Benita: 13.8% Ken Livingstone: 6.3% Lawrence Webb: 3.8% Jenny Jones: -3.6% The first one is my first preference anyway, so that's good. I put undecided on the quiz though, just in case it skewed my results. |
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My results -
20.8% Ken Livingstone (Labour) 19.6% Siobhan Benita (Independent) 18.3% Jenny Jones (Greens) -0.8% Boris Johnson (Conservative) -1.3% Brian Paddick (LibDem) -12.9% Lawrence Webb (UKIP)
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Not Cwite There
Join Date: Aug 2009
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My goodness, my results tell me this
26.7% Jenny Jones 26.3% Siobhan Benita 22.1% Ken Livingstone 22.1% Brian Paddick 3.8% Boris Johnson -21.4% Lawrence Webb
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Boo!
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
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Mine
+36% Lawrence Webb (UKIP) +35.5% Boris Johnson (Conservative) +8.2% Brian Paddick (LibDem) +2.2% Siobhan Benita (Independent) -8.6% Ken Livingstone (Labour) -25.0% Jenny Jones (Greens) Surprised by the Lawrence Webb. My vote is for Boris and my second preference is for Benita partly because I like the idea of a wider field and it would be nice to see an independent do quite well. |
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Thermobaric Thagomizer
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This is the whole problem with the greens. They don't live in reality and will never get anywhere with these policies.
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Quote:
Oh, Jenny Jones..
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I don't like how Boris won't support HS2 if London doesn't get yet another huge infrastructure project thrown in as part of the deal.
F*** off Boris. |
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Boo!
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But if HS2 is going to work to its potential then it needs to integrate fully into the London transport network. No point doing it if it just terminates into a bottleneck and snarles up London. I can see a case for crossrail 2 here.
Birmingham should push for infrastructure upgrades of their own if they think they are necessary. |
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Not really
Join Date: May 2009
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Of course, I'm slow, but when is election? Tomorrow? or today?
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Ken was a good mayor back in 2000. He had a good head for detail, and surprised many by working closely with developers and the City, despite his infamous "Red Ken" past. Today he has sadly slumped back to his former self, raging against bankers and capitalism in this, the most capitalist of cities, and banking capital of the world. Finance is London's core industry, the one that supports all the others. We need a mayor that champions our interests, but Ken will undermine them.
In 2012 Ken is a cranky old man, increasingly erratic and gaffe prone, and with no fresh ideas. His plan to raid TFL's budget (money that's being stored up to deliver the Tube upgrades) and to give it away on immediate fare cuts is reckless populism. Ken's irresponsible budgets, whereby he expects Westminster to bail out his overspending, is out of touch with the austere reality of the times. I was unsure of Boris a few years ago, and voted against him. I've been pleasantly surprised. He defended Crossrail in its entirety from George Osborne's budget cuts (something Ken would never have been able to achieve), and his new bus is absolutely beautiful. If Ken was the mayor that secured the Shard for London, Boris is the man to secure London's next icon. Some people mock Boris's buffoonish personality, but unlike, say, George Bush, Boris's bumbling persona masks a deep intellect. Boris's posh/eccentric image is also great marketing for a city like London. Most crucially, Boris is better placed to secure concessions from Westminster (as he did with Crossrail), and this is the single most important factor at stake in these elections.
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