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Old August 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM   #241
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Old August 17th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #242
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doesn't look bad at all, but it isn't historic
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Old August 18th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #243
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doesn't look bad at all, but it isn't historic
Yeah, too much commie architecture to be historic. Definitely not one of my favourites.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #244
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doesn't look bad at all, but it isn't historic
Maybe from bird's eye view. But from street level it unfortunately looks very bad (at least for me)
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Old August 19th, 2012, 08:29 AM   #245
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street trees, ground floor shops and cobblestone paving would help a lot.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 03:10 PM   #246
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Old August 19th, 2012, 04:43 PM   #247
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Let me break it down for you: Krakow. Period.
Nononono, it's Krakow. Really.
Seriously, though, if you think otherwise, you're wrong. Ok? Ok.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #248
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Cracowphilia and dissociative identity disorder simultaneously. But still fun :P
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Old August 20th, 2012, 12:57 AM   #249
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Are there any plans of replacing these fugly commie blocks with some nice reconstructions in the Stargard Old Town?

Before WW2


Now
Rather slow development in that area. Few new buildings looking like the old ones.

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Many pictures and views but completely different impressions.
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Old August 20th, 2012, 02:11 AM   #250
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not bad at all street level, looks neat and tidy like Dresden. As for Krakow, even though I love it and live there, there are other Polish cities that are comparable in beauty, but smaller maybe - Przemysl, Torun, Poznan, Lodz (needs lots of renovations and has not castle or river but amazing old factories), Zamosc (quite small), Wroclaw (some large historic areas survived).
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Old August 21st, 2012, 01:45 PM   #251
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UNESCO recognized sites (other Polish cities are not listed):
Krakow's Historic Centre - 150ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/29/)
Old City of Zamosc - 75ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/564/)
Medieval Town of Torun - 48ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/835/)
Historic Centre of Warsaw - 26ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/30/)

Other cities:
Old Town administrative borough of Wroclaw (only small area rebuilt after WW2, now probably historic site is smaller than 200ha with a fair bit of modern architecture) - 680ha
Historical centre of Gdansk within 17th-18th century fortifications (again, only small area rebuilt after WW2, now probably less than 100ha) - 255ha
The area of the walled medieval city of Poznan - 21ha
Lublin Old Town district (Medieval Town of Lublin) - 7ha

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Lviv (UNESCO recognized area of 120ha)
Vilnius (UNESCO recognized, the largest historic centre in this part of Europe, 359ha)

I hope this answers your questions.
In case of Krakow it's only the Old Town (within Planty), Stradom and Kazimierz was inscribed on WHL, so very small area of two (of three) best preserved medieval cities (actually it does not cover the whole area of nowday Kazimierz district!).
As "historic centre" of Krakow the area of The Monument of History should be recognise (around 700 ha):

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Old August 21st, 2012, 01:57 PM   #252
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UNESCO recognized sites (other Polish cities are not listed):
Krakow's Historic Centre - 150ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/29/)
Old City of Zamosc - 75ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/564/)
Medieval Town of Torun - 48ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/835/)
Historic Centre of Warsaw - 26ha (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/30/)

Other cities:
Old Town administrative borough of Wroclaw (only small area rebuilt after WW2, now probably historic site is smaller than 200ha with a fair bit of modern architecture) - 680ha
Historical centre of Gdansk within 17th-18th century fortifications (again, only small area rebuilt after WW2, now probably less than 100ha) - 255ha/600ha
The area of the walled medieval city of Poznan - 21ha
Lublin Old Town district (Medieval Town of Lublin) - 7ha

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Lviv (UNESCO recognized area of 120ha)
Vilnius (UNESCO recognized, the largest historic centre in this part of Europe, 359ha)

I hope this answers your questions.
Thanks behemot, brilliant work

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(Prof. Dr.Andrzej Januszajtis)
"Pre-war Gdansk Main City (Old City) area was 600ha and it was the largest historic district on Polish soil and one of the largest in Europe.
There was 5000 town houses (FYI, over 10 times more than in today's Torun), nearly as much as today in the Old Town Amsterdam."

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In case of Krakow it's only the Old Town (within Planty), Stradom and Kazimierz was inscribed on WHL, so very small area of two (of three) best preserved medieval cities (actually it does not cover the whole area of nowday Kazimierz district!).
As "historic centre" of Krakow the area of The Monument of History should be recognise (around 700 ha):

Having explored Krakow extensively, always thought it was strange the small area that was actually inscribed by UNESCO, but it is up to the City of Krakow conservation office authorities to make the case to expand it to 700 ha or something considerably larger. This would involve considerable documentation more than they have now.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 03:39 AM   #254
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City rebuilt: Wroclaw.
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More Wroclaw. Google it.




Big student population in Wroclaw.



Only one skyscraper in Wroclaw.








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Old August 22nd, 2012, 04:21 AM   #257
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Wroclaw is one of Poland's most dynamic cities.
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Wroclaw is one of Poland's most dynamic cities.
I agree. It seems like it has a lot to offer. Poznan is another big city that looks under-rated from a tourist point-of-view.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 07:16 AM   #259
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nice job rychlik, it's time tourists stopped overlooking Wroclaw, Poznan and I might add Lublin and Lodz...Gdansk and its satellite cities of Gdynia and Sopot is already very popular.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 07:37 AM   #260
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nice job rychlik, it's time tourists stopped overlooking Wroclaw, Poznan and I might add Lublin and Lodz...Gdansk and its satellite cities of Gdynia and Sopot is already very popular.
Lodz has some good-looking architecture and Lublin's old-town seems to have a lot of charm. Both cities look like they could be worth a visit if more buildings get restored/renovated.
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