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Old September 3rd, 2012, 08:31 AM   #281
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Those modern buildings in Katowice above look quite ok, but they also seem to show how modern car oriented architecture leads to absolutely dead cities. On the brigth side however, the city looks at least pretty green.
I agree. Katowice was never Poland's favorite city but it's getting it's make-over. From what it appears, the city is embracing some nice modern designs. The train station/shopping center development will be amazing. I hope in the future some new and daring designs will come out of this city.

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Old September 3rd, 2012, 01:45 PM   #282
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Katowice is out of any classical definiton of city, as all of katowice agglomeration (contain many towns of equal rights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katowice_agglomeration). It's downtown is on north edge of city border but it is surrounded by neighbors downtowns and high density areas, so for people from outsite it may lead to wrong conclusions.
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 02:27 PM   #283
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In my opinion, the most important palaces/castles that should be reconstructed by Poles in the future...

1. Saxon Palace in Warsaw (actually in Warsaw there are at least 10 other palaces that I would love to see restored)


2. Krzyztopor in Ujazd


3. Ogrodzieniec Castle


PS. After some research, I can name tens of exquisite Polish palaces (built mostly in 17th century) that are now in ruins
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 06:49 PM   #284
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Imo the third one is 'too medieval' to be restored. It looks pretty nice right now as a ruin and I'm not sure rebuilding it would create an authentic feeling.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #285
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Old September 4th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #286
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Examples of palaces in Warsaw that have been demolished during WW2 and weren't rebuilt...

1. Badenich

2. Branickich

3. Bruhlowski

4. Kronenberga


Some brilliant works of Tylman Gamerski like Kotowski Palace or Bruhlowski Palace shouldn't be forgotten. Most precious Baroque buildings (e.g. Royal Chapel in Gdansk, Krasinski Palace in Warsaw, Branicki Palace in Bialystok, St. Anne's Church in Krakow) in Poland were designed by this extremely talented architect.

"Krakow - city of 100 churches"
"Warsaw - city of 100 palaces"
Doesn't this sound great?
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Old September 4th, 2012, 05:18 PM   #287
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Old September 4th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #288
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Examples of palaces in Warsaw that have been demolished during WW2 and weren't rebuilt...

1. Badenich

2. Branickich

3. Bruhlowski

4. Kronenberga


Some brilliant works of Tylman Gamerski like Kotowski Palace or Bruhlowski Palace shouldn't be forgotten. Most precious Baroque buildings (e.g. Royal Chapel in Gdansk, Krasinski Palace in Warsaw, Branicki Palace in Bialystok, St. Anne's Church in Krakow) in Poland were designed by this extremely talented architect.

"Krakow - city of 100 churches"
"Warsaw - city of 100 palaces"
Doesn't this sound great?
Will these be rebuilt?
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Old September 4th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #289
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Will these be rebuilt?
Maybe someday, I'm not sure: http://www.sejm.gov.pl/sejm7.nsf/Int...p?key=5CBD3629

There have been many, many more palaces in Warsaw...

Kotowski


Karasia


Strasburgera


And the list goes on.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:52 PM   #290
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all the numbers aren't in yet, 2012 has been a poor year, but Poznan is near 100 now and Wroclaw and Krakow may add about 10 each by year end, we;ll see. Autumn is good for restoration work
1. Poznan - 101
2. Krakow - 63
3. Wroclaw - 51

To my knowledge, in Poznan and Lodz we can find the best preserved 19th century architecture in Poland.

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Old September 5th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #291
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Old September 5th, 2012, 09:57 PM   #292
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Examples of palaces in Warsaw that have been demolished during WW2 and weren't rebuilt...

1. Badenich
http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/f...res/03915v.jpg

2. Branickich
http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/frascati/old/98.jpg

3. Bruhlowski
http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/p..._bruhla_09.jpg

4. Kronenberga
http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/m...kiego_4_01.jpg
Interesting post, thanks for that.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #293
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1. Poznan - 101
2. Krakow - 63
3. Wroclaw - 51

To my knowledge, in Poznan and Lodz we can find the best preserved 19th century architecture in Poland.
that's true since most of Warsaw's was destroyed and Krakow boasts a treasure trove of buildings mostly older than 19th century (13th-18th). Poznan's 19th century districts suffered little damage compared to the much older old town whereas Lodz suffered virtually no damage at all. Going to Lodz gives you a sense of how Warsaw must have looked.
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Old September 6th, 2012, 12:52 AM   #294
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"Krakow - city of 100 churches"
"Warsaw - city of 100 palaces"
Doesn't this sound great?
You forgot
"Wroclaw - city of 100 bridges" (actually, there are up to 400 bridges, depending on what counts as a bridge.)

In case of the old town Wroclaw, a big part of the old town damaged during the war hadn't been reconstructed after the war. The stones and rubble had been transported to Warsaw instead to reconstruct part of their old town.

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Wroclaw's bridges at night...

Redzinski Bridge (with its pylon reaching a height of 122 m and having a total length of 1.7 km, the Redzinski Bridge is the tallest and longest bridge in Poland)


Grunwaldzki Bridge


Tumski Bridge


Sky Tower in Wroclaw (the tallest residential building in EU, 212m)


The Raclawice Panorama in Wroclaw (monumental 15 × 114 meter, one of world's largest circular panoramic paintings; it depicts the Battle of Raclawice, during the Kosciuszko Uprising)




Wroclaw Fountain (it is currently one of the largest operating fountains in Europe, the 1 hectare fountain incorporates over 300 jets to create moving-dancing screens of water; they are used, with music and light, by a computerized multimedia program for animated water shows)
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Wrocław’s dwarfs (small figurines that first appeared in the streets of Wrocław in 2001; since then, their numbers have been continually growing to around 100 in 2012)






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Bishop Jordan Bridge in Poznan


Tumski Bridge in Wroclaw


Cathedral Island in Poznan


Cathedral Island in Wroclaw


Market Square in Poznan


Market Square in Wroclaw
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The church of St. James and St. Vincent in Wrocław (burial place of the Silesian Duke Henry II the Pious)






The Convent of the Ursuline Sisters (burial place of the Silesian Dukes Henry III the White, Henry V the Fat, Henry VI the Good)




Collegiate Church of the Holy Cross and St. Bartholomew in Wroclaw (mausoleum of the Silesian Duke Henry IV Probus)




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The Convent of the Ursuline Sisters (burial place of the Silesian Dukes Henry III the White, Henry V the Fat, Henry VI the Good)
Is this tower missing its spire? Looks like it.
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Is this tower missing its spire? Looks like it.
Yep missing, but It will be rebuilt soon
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