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Old August 1st, 2012, 01:32 AM   #161
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No need to show useless videos where a tourist would never go. Make better choices. Use common sense.

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Old August 1st, 2012, 01:43 AM   #162
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those are pretty old videos, Lublin is undergoing a big renaissance and lots of restorations and new builds and Lodz although still looking a little haggard is not neglected, the people of Lodz and investors are making big progress in revitalizing the city...lots for tourists to see in Lodz, one of only a handful of cities in Poland that were virtually untouched by war. Thanks for pics of Szczecin

Wouldn't call Krakow a small version of Prague, maybe medium sized, but it's quite unique in many ways.
Surprised that most infrastructure was left untouched by war in Lodz. Strangely enough though, it became one of the "uglier" cities in Poland. The cities that were left in ruins became the pretty ones.
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Old August 1st, 2012, 10:07 AM   #163
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Old August 1st, 2012, 11:36 AM   #164
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No need to show useless videos where a tourist would never go. Make better choices. Use common sense.
You don't know tourists these days They like to wander aimlessly through the streets

In my opinion, Polish cities cannot be called beautiful as a whole (like some Italian cities), because of the great number of commieblock or undeveloped areas.

Gdansk is only nice in the Main Town area (just a few streets, less than 50ha, correct me if I'm wrong) and as a tourist you might need just 1 day to see all. Downtown, Granary Island, Old Town, Old Suburb, etc. are still part of the City Centre, but they are an eyesore.
Krakow on the other hand has really huge area that can be called "beautiful" (it could be even 3-4 days trip, over 150ha of UNESCO World Heritage area; BTW Lwow has UNESCO World Heritage area of 120ha, Zamosc 75ha, Torun 48ha, and Warsaw 26ha).

Prague has UNESCO World Heritage area of 866ha (over 5 times larger than Krakow), Budapest 473ha, Riga 438ha, and Rome 1,485ha

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In my opinion, Polish cities cannot be called beautiful as a whole (like some Italian cities), because of the great number of commieblock or undeveloped areas.
My friend, you are very Polish. Advertising the negative instead of looking at the positive. This goes along with the Polish merciless complaining about everything, which is not a very attractive trait. Other nationalities do not do this so much. Do you hear French doing this or Italians, who themselves have a lot of run down cities? For example, Paris has certain social problems and inequalities that Warsaw will never experience (at least I hope they don't if the politicians run the country properly). This thread focuses more on the positive aspects of Polish cities/towns because, let's be honest, most people outside of Poland have a distorted, somewhat negative view of the nation.
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Old August 1st, 2012, 10:23 PM   #166
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My friend, you are very Polish. Advertising the negative instead of looking at the positive. This goes along with the Polish merciless complaining about everything, which is not a very attractive trait. Other nationalities do not do this so much. Do you hear French doing this or Italians, who themselves have a lot of run down cities? For example, Paris has certain social problems and inequalities that Warsaw will never experience (at least I hope they don't if the politicians run the country properly). This thread focuses more on the positive aspects of Polish cities/towns because, let's be honest, most people outside of Poland have a distorted, somewhat negative view of the nation.
I'm just trying to be realistic, what strangely means "Polish" or "negative" to you. Krakow is beautiful city in many areas and in Poland doesn't really have any rivals (however some European cities are more attractive). I've been to Gdansk few months ago and it's not as nice. Main Town is quite small and surrounded by very neglected Old Town, Downtown, etc. BTW, I live in Belfast, which looks worse than almost every larger city in Poland

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In my opinion, Polish cities cannot be called beautiful as a whole (like some Italian cities), because of the great number of commieblock or undeveloped areas.
This is irrelevant because we are talking about cities in Poland. I once met a Korean tourist wandering the streets of Warsaw - in the commi-block part of destroyed Ghetto and wild Wola. I asked him what he was doing there - there was nothing nice here. He said - an old building is just old. There is nothing else to it - boring. If Warsaw would have sided with Hitler - then there would have been a beautiful city here like in - 'Italy' . If Warsaw would have given up fighting like cowards - then there would have been nice architecture - like in 'Paris' . I am here in Warsaw because it has a beautiful soul. That's all that matters.
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This is irrelevant because we are talking about cities in Poland. I once met a Korean tourist wandering the streets of Warsaw - in the commi-block part of destroyed Ghetto and wild Wola. I asked him what he was doing there - there was nothing nice here. He said - an old building is just old. There is nothing else to it - boring. If Warsaw would have sided with Hitler - then there would have been a beautiful city here like in - 'Italy' . If Warsaw would have given up fighting like cowards - then there would have been nice architecture - like in 'Paris' . I am here in Warsaw because it has a beautiful soul. That's all that matters.
I completely agree with Korean tourist, who said that Polish cities have what we can call "beautiful soul" (the same with our Belfast, which has really turbulent history). Nevertheless, the question is "What is the most beautiful city in Poland and why?‎" (in terms of architecture, history, preserved monuments, location, panorama, etc.).

PS. Please stop comparing Polish cities with the rest of Europe (it's like comparing apples to oranges). We're trying to find the most beautiful cities in Poland. I'm sure that everyone knows that pre-war Warsaw was not Paris or Rome, Krakow is not Prague, etc. Rome was founded in 753BC (population 1-2 million during Roman Empire times) and Warsaw was founded about 1300AD. In Rome you can find over 900 churches in every architectural style, and in Warsaw less than 100. Rome has over 20 old squares and Warsaw has one. No contest here, folks.

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Beautiful and amazing skyline of former Breslau....

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Pre-war Wilno, Poland (now Vilnius, Lithuania)


Pre-war Lwow, Poland (now Lviv, Ukraine)


Pre-war Grodno, Poland (now Hrodna, Belarus)

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Indeed beautiful, but we can't call pre-war Wrocław a polish city. Rather german-silesian.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 10:31 PM   #176
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Lublin, summer 2012

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Rome has over 20 old squares and Warsaw has one. No contest here, folks.
What has size got to do with it? Just because it's bigger does not mean it's more beautiful. Rather have a small town surrounded by country than a large sprawling city which takes ages to get around.
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What has size got to do with it? Just because it's bigger does not mean it's more beautiful. Rather have a small town surrounded by country than a large sprawling city which takes ages to get around.
We all have a right to our own opinion. For some less is more

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