daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Forums > Architecture

Architecture news and discussions on all buildings types and urban spaces
» Classic Architecture | European Classic Architecture and Landscapes | Public Space | Shopping Architecture | Design & Lifestyle | Urban Renewal and Redevelopment



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old June 13th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #61
Karasek
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lusatia Superior
Posts: 1,811
Likes (Received): 804

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitMos View Post
destructions were only on city suburbs, but all historical buildings and palaces were restored.
These suburbs are part of the city too, and in many cases the quarters from the 19th century are very beautiful and great places to live.
Karasek no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old July 2nd, 2012, 09:50 PM   #62
CNB30
centralnatbankbuildingrva
 
CNB30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New York (Brooklyn)/Richmond/Philadelphia
Posts: 2,575
Likes (Received): 804

paris



No war machine laid a finger on the city in WWII
CNB30 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 16th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #63
Gistok
The LEGO Guy
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Detroit
Posts: 151
Likes (Received): 37

The argument about whether a building is wonderfully preserved or poorly preserved is sort of a moot point anyway. Until the 19th-20th century most cities had areas that looked poorly preserved.

Also, many of the historic cities of Europe, such as Carcassone and Rothenburg spent centuries as poor areas that people didn't change, because there was no money to modernize, or perhaps there was little desire to live there for a long time. Even Rome went from being a city of over a million during the Empire period down to less than 25,000 population until the Renaissance. In fact before the Renaissance other cities in Italy were larger (population wise) than was Rome (such as Florence and Milan). However, even with a population of only 25,000.... it was a city of many ancient buildings. What saddens me is that so much of the fabric of Ancient Rome was used as a quarry to build Renaissance Rome. (This practice has been going on since the Pharoah's of ancient Egypt.)

Pointing out that a historic city is "well preserved" or just preserved, doesn't matter so much... as long as there is hope for future restoration.

I'm sure that many cities in the world are worst off than Naples, but are also still preserved to some degree. And level of safety has NO relevance as far as preservation goes.

One city that no one has mentioned that I am curious about is Istanbul...

Also, much of the fabric of the hill towns of Transylvania was built by Transylvanian Saxons... Germans who moved to Transylvania in the 1180s AD. They were invited by Hungarian King Bela II, and stayed until the end of WWII, when 13 million ethnic Germans moved out of Eastern Europe before the onslaught of the Russians near the wars end.

Usually the best preserved cities in Europe often went thru long centuries of decline before being "rediscovered" by world travelers, and have been or are being restored.
Gistok no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 16th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #64
Axelferis
Registered User
 
Axelferis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: A space between two worlds
Posts: 11,149
Likes (Received): 2208

Quote:
Originally Posted by CNB30 View Post
paris



No war machine laid a finger on the city in WWII
Paris my love

But it is false that war didn't affect the city:

http://www.google.fr/search?q=paris+...ELSU0QXAiemABw
__________________
W.A.O blog
Axelferis no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 16th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #65
datoriprogram
Registered User
 
datoriprogram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Stockholm/New York
Posts: 989
Likes (Received): 426

Isn't the easy answer: every city where "modern" war hasn't taken place?
datoriprogram no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 16th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #66
Galro
Humanity through Urbanity
 
Galro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 12,224
Likes (Received): 9770

Quote:
Originally Posted by the spliff fairy View Post
Those pics are from Romania - I loved my trip to Sighisoara, real fairy tale country of ancient woods and mountains all around.

My nominee would be Siena - no cars allowed.
Huh? I have admittedly never been to Siena, but there are plenty of cars to be seen in Siena on streetview:

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Siena,...,97.2,,0,-7.27

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Siena,...2,3.74,,0,0.76

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Siena,...12,135.56,,0,0

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Siena,...99.67,,0,-0.69

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Siena,...49.48,,0,-1.32

https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Siena,...170.17,,0,0.14
Galro no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 17th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #67
the spliff fairy
ONE WORLD
 
the spliff fairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: london
Posts: 7,984
Likes (Received): 6213

sorry, meant only locals, who can afford the hefty license to park in the city. Cars from outside the walls are not allowed.
the spliff fairy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 17th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #68
TheReconstructer
Registered User
 
TheReconstructer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hoorn
Posts: 528
Likes (Received): 176

Venice ofcourse, a lot of historical buildings, like San Marco's Basilica, all the houses and palazzo's among the Canal Grande, the churches, monasteries and other buildings like the Arsenal
TheReconstructer no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 18th, 2012, 05:38 PM   #69
Victor.besa
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 164
Likes (Received): 10

One i forgot, Santiago de compostela, Spain, beatiful preserved city.
Victor.besa no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2012, 06:13 PM   #70
ledeled
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,055
Likes (Received): 2214

St. Petersburg

The total area of the historical core - 56 sq. km.

Photo by Gelio









Photo by Pavel Kozionov






Last edited by ledeled; July 21st, 2012 at 06:22 PM.
ledeled no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st, 2012, 06:54 PM   #71
ThatOneGuy
Psst! Check my signature!
 
ThatOneGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Toronto - Bucharest - Freeport
Posts: 21,476

St Petersburg is beautiful.
ThatOneGuy está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:35 PM   #72
CNB30
centralnatbankbuildingrva
 
CNB30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New York (Brooklyn)/Richmond/Philadelphia
Posts: 2,575
Likes (Received): 804

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axelferis View Post
Paris my love

But it is false that war didn't affect the city:

http://www.google.fr/search?q=paris+...ELSU0QXAiemABw
I mean that the city was not bombed or expirienced any combat in WWII
CNB30 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 27th, 2012, 03:16 AM   #73
009
Registered User
 
009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Aguascalientes
Posts: 1,089
Likes (Received): 1110

Paris and Prague

Naples is the worst preserved
009 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 27th, 2012, 06:46 AM   #74
Suburbanist
on the road
 
Suburbanist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: the rain capital of Europe
Posts: 27,400
Likes (Received): 21016

Has this become another "picture flame war thread"?

=================

I take issue with defining what is a "preserved area". I am, for the sake of argument, assuming we are all talking about the preservation of specific cohesive areas, not entire cities that might or might have not have grown a lot since 19th Century...

First, you have the problem of the historical threshold. Many cities cited here were built and re-built countless times over centuries, so what classifies a place as preserved or not? Paris, for instance, was extensively and thoroughly "remade" in mid-19th Century. Almost nothing of medieval Paris is left and someone engaged in a similar conversation like this in 1890 could be well saying the same thing, how the renovations of then erased the earlier urban fabric.

Berlin was practically razed to the ground in WW2. But Rome was also razed in 462 BC. Both cities have been reconstructed 1500 years apart: is age the only criteria?
__________________
YIMBY - Yes, in my backyard!
Suburbanist no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 26th, 2013, 01:32 PM   #75
louk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2
Likes (Received): 0

I think Amsterdam
louk no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 26th, 2013, 02:06 PM   #76
skyscraperus
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: skyscraperopolis
Posts: 1,661
Likes (Received): 2267

Prague ?



skyscraperus no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 27th, 2013, 02:32 PM   #77
skymantle
Registered User
 
skymantle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,795
Likes (Received): 3111

Does anyone know the name of this garden/square in St Petersburg?

skymantle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 27th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #78
Kiboko
hubba hubba
 
Kiboko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,462
Likes (Received): 327

Quote:
Originally Posted by World 2 World View Post
Amsterdam
No way. Amsterdam has lots of old canal houses but most of the time these buildings are interspersed with hideous buildings from the 80s.
Kiboko no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2013, 01:03 AM   #79
Copperknickers
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 334
Likes (Received): 181

Quote:
Originally Posted by datoriprogram View Post
Isn't the easy answer: every city where "modern" war hasn't taken place?
Not in the slightest. There are plenty of cities in the UK where the Blitz was hardly felt at all, at least in the central areas, yet nothing now remains of the medieval and renaissance periods. Sometimes fires destroyed them like in London, sometimes they were built on top of like in Edinburgh, sometimes they were just demolished wholesale like in Glasgow.
Copperknickers no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #80
Copperknickers
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 334
Likes (Received): 181

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukino View Post
Edinburgh, Bruges, Toledo, Prague, Venice
You obviously haven't been to Edinburgh. Its absolutely full of modern buildings, apart from the Old and New towns, which make up about 5% of the city's area.
Copperknickers no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu