#CTICC II Tower - 20F (80m) - Mixed Use - CBD | Planned

[Mo Rush]

Amend height restriction from current 54 meters to 80 meters.

• 25 000sqm of bulk
• 15 000m2 of commercial (office)
• 10 000m2 hospitality (3-star hotel), as well as
• proportionate ratio of parking. In addition, the CTICC
• provision within Tower for facilities associated with the CTICC, including a ballroom, service lifts and shared lobby/concierge areas.

Development bidding process to commence. Will require use of existing professional team assigned by CTICC.

[Caisson Boy]

Shukran Mo.

[SA BOY]

bad move to insist on existing team. tower rights are also lease hold

[wadeyshady1]

I'm not sure if these images have been seen on the cticc thread, but came across it by accident on a website earlier today. Anyone have any more info on it?







from http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgur...Divnsfd&itbs=1

[Lydon]

Yeah all the info is available in the CTICC Expansion thread

[Mo Rush]

Statement on the CTICC tower and Foreshore Parking lot
http://futurecapetown.com/2012/06/me...city-proposal/
Thanks to Andres for input into this.

Future Cape Town is encouraged by a small step upward, but feels the City of Cape Town can stretch its leap into urbanism more effectively, after it proposed a lift of height restrictions in the Foreshore and provisional parking to support the planned expansion of CTICC this week.

The City’s Tower Block Development above the CTICC proposes the following:

(i) An amendment to the height restriction from the current 54 meters to 80 meters, and,

(ii) The provision of additional parking which will be provided in a structure parkade (basement + 3 levels) to be developed within the road reserve of the Table Bay Boulevard.

“The area has no heritage constraints and the prime nature of the property offers a perfect mix for the City to be bold and set new global standards,” says Future Cape Town MD Rashiq Fataar

The new urbanism that Future Cape Town aspires to for Cape Town’s CBD is, however, unlikely to be realised by the current process. Another multi-level parkade on the Foreshore will be a stumbling block for efforts to connect the city and its citizens to the world-class harbour and Atlantic Ocean, already hidden behind a few man-made obstacles.

The 80m-height restriction, although already a concession on the previous 54m limit, is somewhat counterintuitive. This decision does not seem to align with the recently released draft Tall-Buildings Policy, which in some regard aims to deal with sprawl within the CBD. It is unclear what is being protected on the Foreshore that disallows more height. Future Cape Town considers the Foreshore an ideal and safe opportunity to promote taller buildings. This new business district continues to expand and grow. This could result in a desired height recommendation, rather than a cap on the height, without any sound justification.

The proposal for a parkade between the Foreshore Freeways is disappointing in light of the importance of pursuing links between the city and the sea.

Some elaboration on this structure is required in order to align urban planning with

(i) The Central City Development Strategy, and,

(ii) Joint efforts around the Port Revitalization Project

“Building a bulky car-park between what could be Cape Town’s future cruise terminal and the financial district is short-sighted. We should be upgrading public spaces beneath the freeways and building parking garages underground, not cutting the city off from the harbour,” says Fataar.

It is concerning that a decision on such a structure is expedited without any decision being taken on the future of the Foreshore Freeways in its entirety. “The precedent the parkade structure would set for future proposals or developments between the Foreshore Freeways is troubling, especially in the absence of a masterplan or framework to guide city planners”, concludes Fataar.

“Were we forward thinking, we might question how each aspect of the CTICC expansion could benefit the city beyond its direct contribution. When this approach is applied to the parkade, it offers the opportunity to create a park-and-ride facility on cheaper land outside of the CBD which, when linked with existing and proposed infrastructure, could service the CBD as a whole rather than simply providing infrastructure to delegates and employees”, says Future Cape Town’s Robert Bowen.

Future Cape Town encourages further thought on this proposal, and offer our time and resources to engage with a wider audience and future generation of the City to help find better solutions.

ENDS

Issued by: Media Office, Future Cape Town

media@futurecapetown.com

[pauluswizard]

I heard there may be a problem with one of the land deals. Naspers / Georgiou / City ? Something about one of the deals having a timeframe, which has expired. Anybody shed any light ?

[Lydon]

There's apparently a small delay with the Chris Barnard hospital complex (Georgiou). Perhaps that?

[Foxyman]

Originally Posted by Lydon

There's apparently a small delay with the Chris Barnard hospital complex (Georgiou). Perhaps that?

The Province site has transferred to Georgiou...

[annman]

Courtesy a FUTURECapeTown press release:

The height restriction on the CTICC East Tower will be lifted further. The original 54m to 80m amendment has now been amended further by the CoCT, to allow for a 120m tower.

MoRush may place further details here later, or check www.futurecapetown.com for developing news.

[Caisson Boy]

BUT are they going to make use of this?

[Caisson Boy]

What are the chances of a 120m tower here?

[Citywalker_CT]

Originally Posted by Caisson Boy

What are the chances of a 120m tower here?

That is the million dollar question.

[Lydon]

Well why would they apply for a height restriction amendment if they weren't intending on building that high? It'll be hard for the council to make any sort of heritage argument against the extra height, and whose views is it going to block?

[SA BOY]

Originally Posted by Caisson Boy

What are the chances of a 120m tower here?

Zero. There is lots of bulk but restrictions on parking. So its easy to build another 55 000m2 portside clone but depth of site and ability to park 2000 cars is very hard even with the additional parking structure between the freeways only get you 1000 bays. then to accommodate another 1000 bays in a narrow site means inefficient parking floors and going up about 8 floors in structure. Not a great parking solution.

The 80m height gets you about 25 000m2 of bulk

[SA BOY]

its not about view corridors or heritage issues, its about "selling" the bulk the site has. At R3000m2 of bulk (going rate in CPT at the moment) the city needs to sell as much bulk as it can . Its good for the city as its probably the best tower site in the city and an amazing address of 1 herenghracht, BUT and its big but who's going to occupy such a site with the massive oversupply coming up? banks won't fund this on spec even if you wanted to do it

[Lydon]

Originally Posted by SA BOY

Zero. There is lots of bulk but restrictions on parking. So its easy to build another 55 000m2 portside clone but depth of site and ability to park 2000 cars is very hard even with the additional parking structure between the freeways only get you 1000 bays. then to accommodate another 1000 bays in a narrow site means inefficient parking floors and going up about 8 floors in structure. Not a great parking solution.

The 80m height gets you about 25 000m2 of bulk

Surely even if they were to go up to 120m they'd get nowhere near 55 000sqm? The tower seems to have a much smaller footprint than Portside does and would be shorter as well?

[Mo Rush]

Current proposal for first few floors related to CTICC e.g. ballroom, then offices, then a break in the tower, then hotel to the top.

[SpringBokBoi]

How much office space at the moment is vacant in cape town?

[Foxyman]

[QUOTE=SpringBokBoi;93551861]How much office space at the moment is vacant in cape town?[/QUOTE

call it 50,000 sqm but almost all off it is B or C grade stock, the issue now would be the pipeline of new space that is not pre let (Portside 25,000 sqm, 22 Bree 3,000 sqm)