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Old May 4th, 2012, 09:00 AM   #1
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The best architectural ornamentation?

I think that is Muqarnas.

About Muqarnas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqarnas


Muqarnas in the Alhambra Palace, Granada, Spain

Architectural rendering: http://www.etereaestudios.com/worksw..._wip/index.htm





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Vakil historic mosque in Kerman
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Old May 5th, 2012, 09:44 AM   #2
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The best ornamentation is no ornamentation. Most of the time i see the ornamentation on ceilings as unnecessary clutter which should be removed. I'd rather see a thoughtful designed ceiling, with the spreading of natural and unnatural light as its main target.

Like this beautiful modern ceiling in the Louvre:
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Old May 5th, 2012, 01:58 PM   #3
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That mosque looks brighter than that room in Louvre.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 09:20 PM   #4
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That is also a type of ornamentation, I think everyone likes symmetry and harmony, for this reason a flower is beautiful:



A building also needs this beauty:


Ibrahim khan bath in Kerman
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Old May 6th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #5
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That mosque looks brighter than that room in Louvre.
That is because of the shutterspeed...
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Old July 18th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #6
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Victorian Gothic

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Old August 11th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #7
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Old August 29th, 2012, 11:12 AM   #8
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Modern architecture, conceived of as the elimination of ornament in favor of purely functional structures, left architects the problem of how to properly adorn modern structures.[8] There were two available routes from this perceived crisis. One was to attempt to devise an ornamental vocabulary that was new and essentially contemporary. This was the route taken by architects like Louis Sullivan and his pupil Frank Lloyd Wright, or by the unique Antoni Gaudí. Art Nouveau, for all its excesses, was a conscious effort to evolve such a "natural" vocabulary of ornament.
A more radical route abandoned the use of ornament altogether, as in some designs for objects by Christopher Dresser. At the time, such unornamented objects could have been found in many unpretending workaday items of industrial design, ceramics produced at the Arabia manufactory in Finland, for instance, or the glass insulators of electric lines.
This latter approach was described by architect Adolf Loos in his 1908 manifesto, translated into English in 1913 and polemically titled Ornament and Crime, in which he declared that lack of decoration is the sign of an advanced society. His argument was that ornament is economically inefficient and "morally degenerate", and that reducing ornament was a sign of progress. Modernists were eager to point to American architect Louis Sullivan as their godfather in the cause of aesthetic simplification, dismissing the knots of intricately patterned ornament that articulated the skin of his structures.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 01:08 PM   #9
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This latter approach was described by architect Adolf Loos in his 1908 manifesto, translated into English in 1913 and polemically titled Ornament and Crime, in which he declared that lack of decoration is the sign of an advanced society. His argument was that ornament is economically inefficient and "morally degenerate", and that reducing ornament was a sign of progress.
a really sad story
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His argument was that ornament is economically inefficient and "morally degenerate", and that reducing ornament was a sign of progress.
It's the same argument oppressive government uses when they want to ban something or force their own world view. "Aha! I have figured out the secret to make society better. Therefore we must completely and immediately destroy the established system and rebuild it using my untested and probably unwanted idea. If you disagree you're an idiot/Luddite/degenerate/heathen/infidel!"

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Modernists were eager to point to American architect Louis Sullivan as their godfather in the cause of aesthetic simplification, dismissing the knots of intricately patterned ornament that articulated the skin of his structures.
The man invented his own form of ornament. He didn't just slap some swirly lines to appease the crowd.

Louis Sullivan's Aesthetic Simplification

http://www.paullknight.com/2011/03/1...ament-plate-4/
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Old August 31st, 2012, 02:12 AM   #11
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It's the same argument oppressive government uses when they want to ban something or force their own world view. "Aha! I have figured out the secret to make society better. Therefore we must completely and immediately destroy the established system and rebuild it using my untested and probably unwanted idea. If you disagree you're an idiot/Luddite/degenerate/heathen/infidel!"



The man invented his own form of ornament. He didn't just slap some swirly lines to appease the crowd.

Louis Sullivan's Aesthetic Simplification

http://www.paullknight.com/2011/03/1...ament-plate-4/

Louis Sullivan was the greatest architect of all time
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Old August 31st, 2012, 04:26 AM   #12
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The best ornamentation is no ornamentation. Most of the time i see the ornamentation on ceilings as unnecessary clutter which should be removed. I'd rather see a thoughtful designed ceiling, with the spreading of natural and unnatural light as its main target.

Like this beautiful modern ceiling in the Louvre:

That's your opinion.
Nobody goes to Paris to go for modernism or just blank walls. Similarly, I'm sure the great majority of people who go to the Louvre go to see classical art, with all its rich ornamentation.

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Old September 8th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #13
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a really sad story
The crime is not the ornament. The crime is the theft of ornament and character.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #14
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There is no "best". Or, "best" is what best fits the creative intention of the author (architect, designer, etc.). Ta.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #15
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No ornamentation is usually the best option. Usually, the more sleek and uncluttered a building is, the better.
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No ornamentation is usually the best option. Usually, the more sleek and uncluttered a building is, the better.
That's just your opinion.

Some of us would prefer that a building be made up of ornament.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #17
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I much prefer ornament. Plain buildings lead to faceless cities and reduce public appreciation for their area.

I disagree with the long quote above: ornamentation is a sign of a progressed society (or can be) since a society that has exceeded itself can work on improving the local environment (through extravagent architecture) as it's final goal.
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 03:46 PM   #18
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The best architectural ornamentation? None at all. A simple rectangular building with simple rectangular rooms looks far better than buildings or rooms with fancy ornamentation
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 10:10 PM   #19
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Baroque, what else?

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Old December 4th, 2012, 08:13 AM   #20
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That's just your opinion.

Some of us would prefer that a building be made up of ornament.
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I much prefer ornament. Plain buildings lead to faceless cities and reduce public appreciation for their area.

I disagree with the long quote above: ornamentation is a sign of a progressed society (or can be) since a society that has exceeded itself can work on improving the local environment (through extravagent architecture) as it's final goal.
Do you guys know even a little bit about history of architecture?
This shittalk without historical context is just as innovative as my dustbin.


Back to the topic - considering aestethical matters I like art-deco and gothic the most.

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