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Old May 13th, 2012, 10:18 AM   #161
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I'm pretty sure the Wolf Point site can fit only one tower. Or possibly two.
The plan is for 3. So I figure that they have worked it out.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 05:27 AM   #162
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I can't be blamed for this because I do not have Sketchup installed. Still, I'll be glad when the final design comes up.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 07:17 PM   #163
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Old May 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM   #164
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That's a great picture. If it was more zoomed out, I would take a 900-1000 foot building and add it to the picture, to see what it might look like.

btw, 13 days left till we get a design, considering it's Cesar Pelli, I am pretty excited.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #165
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Wolf Point mockup (hopefully the towers won't be boxes but this gives some idea...)



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Old May 17th, 2012, 04:28 PM   #166
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The massing gives a good visual to imagine the buildings. I'm thinking the artist errored on the shorter side though given that the Apparel Center to the north is 325 ft., 333 Wacker is 489 ft. (the concave faced building), and 300 North LaSalle is 785 ft (building just east of the Merchandise Mart).

From the looks of those massing's it would almost seem the tallest building doesn't go much higher then 700 ft.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #167
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Well that's a great for those two towers no matter what they look like.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 03:04 AM   #168
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must be one of the best plots in chicago. just think of the view... mmmh
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Old May 18th, 2012, 06:17 AM   #169
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must be one of the best plots in chicago. just think of the view... mmmh
Frankly, I wouldn't want to build anything tall there. The plot is really marshy and it will probably need a WTC-type 'bathtub' to keep groundwater out. Anything's possible these days, but I'd rather make a big statement elsewhere.



Of course, as long as someone else is doing this, I'm a huge fan!
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Old May 18th, 2012, 06:50 AM   #170
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Amazing! Imagine this and the wolf point peaking out the skyline! Adding more density. I just can't wait 13 more days!
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Old May 18th, 2012, 08:06 AM   #171
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13 days? awesome

These buildings are in the perfect location.

With 80 floors, some sort of roof element (or even without) could easily make this a supertall. Granted the 900 figure is just an estimation.
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Oops I ment River pointe
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Old May 18th, 2012, 09:31 PM   #173
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13 days? awesome

These buildings are in the perfect location.

With 80 floors, some sort of roof element (or even without) could easily make this a supertall. Granted the 900 figure is just an estimation.
We will probably get renders of wolf point on the 29th of may. Also I have heard that the number 900 is a number they used to get the ball rolling, it could easily be a supertall.
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Frankly, I wouldn't want to build anything tall there. The plot is really marshy and it will probably need a WTC-type 'bathtub' to keep groundwater out. Anything's possible these days, but I'd rather make a big statement elsewhere.



Of course, as long as someone else is doing this, I'm a huge fan!
It is just such a cool location. To overcome this problem, you may need a pit like this one:


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Old May 22nd, 2012, 08:44 AM   #175
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Here is a somewhat bad attempt to guess what this could look like, but it's something.

Thanks to Desert Punk for the original picture


@ Desert Punk, if you could send me the original version of this pic without the gray boxes, this would look much better


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Old May 24th, 2012, 12:38 AM   #176
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Thanks to Brave New World from SSP for finding this

http://www.marinacityonline.com/news/wolf0523.htm


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23-May-12 – A plan to build three mixed-use towers southwest of Merchandise Mart was acknowledged at last night’s River North Residents Association meeting but no one is commenting yet.

France Langan, the new chairman of the River North Business Association and also director of sales and marketing at the Holiday Inn at Chicago Mart Plaza – the view of which would be blocked by the towers – told a small crowd at Skoozi in River North that he would not “tell you how we feel at the Holiday Inn about the project necessarily.”

(Right) Langan speaks at Tuesday’s RNRA meeting.
He did point out that many photographs in National Geographic are of places no longer in existence. “I invite everyone up to the Holiday Inn Chicago Mart Plaza,” said Langan. “Take a look at the view that we have outside the windows. Who knows how long it will be there?”

River North Residents Association and the Fulton River District Association are hosting a community meeting on May 29 at which representatives of Hines Development Corporation will answer questions about the proposal. The complex will include 900-foot and 750-foot residential/commercial towers and a 525-foot residential building on land owned by the Kennedy family.

With support for the Wolf Point project from River North residents far from certain, former 42nd ward alderman Burton Natarus cautioned anyone planning to stop the project.

“It’s all right for the community to go in and for the alderman to go in and stop the project,” said Natarus, alderman from 1971 to 2007, “but then you got to stop and consider who it is, and whether they have money and whether they will go to court. I’ve been in the courthouse several times and when you’re in the courthouse you’re in a different ballgame altogether.”

(Left) Natarus at his last city council meeting on May 9, 2007.
The Kennedy family, he assured the crowd, has money and “probably the finest zoning lawyers in the city of Chicago.”

Natarus says he has tried to convey the message to current alderman Brendan Reilly, who is organizing the May 29 meeting, “but our communication isn’t good.”

Andrew Schaefer, chairman of the River North Resident Association’s development committee, agreed with Natarus. “None of us is interested in winning a pyrrhic victory where we successfully shoot down one thing only to have something even worse rammed down our throats.”

Schaefer called it “inevitable” that something would eventually be built at Wolf Point. “It’s a parking lot in some of the most valuable real estate in the city of Chicago. And it’s not going to stay that way forever, just as any other parking lot in downtown Chicago doesn’t stay a parking lot forever.”

The meeting is scheduled for 5:30 p.m. in the Wolf Point Ballroom at the Holiday Inn, 350 West Mart Center.

Toni Preckwinkle was scheduled to be the special guest speaker at Tuesday’s meeting but according to RNRA president Mike Riordan, the Cook County Board president cancelled over the weekend.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #177
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Chicago Skyscraper Development Map

Excluding the building with a green border, all buildings are over 650 feet/200m.


From Left to Right

One South Halsted - 50 stories, Post office Redevelopment - (400-610m) - 120 stories, River Point - 650 feet - 45 floors, 400 West Randolph - 213 meters - 50 floors, Wolf Point Tower 1 - 270m+ - 80 floors - Wolf Point Tower 2 - 228 meters + - 60 floors - Wolf Point Tower 3 - 160 meters - 50 floors,130 North Franklin - 213m, Clark & Wacker - 200m+ - 65 floors, 435 N Park(Undecided) - 193 meters - 54 floors, 375 Wacker Drive - 256 meters - 76 floors

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Old May 27th, 2012, 08:47 AM   #178
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I like the building with the big square hole in it, I think it's around 850 feet or so, but it's awesome.

good to see one of the worlds greatest skyline is back in business.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 08:54 AM   #179
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I like the building with the big square hole in it, I think it's around 850 feet or so, but it's awesome.

good to see one of the worlds greatest skyline is back in business.
You are thinking of 375 Wacker Drive, it was proposed during the boom, but they held off when the recession started, and here is the latest update, there is a more recent article, but I am having trouble finding it

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This one is still alive:

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Magellan's James Loewenberg on Aqua and Surviving the Downturn
By Jeff Bailey

...Post-Aqua, is it back to standard-issue buildings at Lakeshore East?

No. It’s going to be tough to top that building. But we hired Arquitectonica, the Miami firm, and they designed a building that straddles the street. We were ready to go. Thank God we never started. A great market opportunity, in the next two or three years, after you get through the overhanging inventory.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 02:23 AM   #180
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