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View Poll Results: which Crown should be chosen?
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Old December 16th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #3821
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VIP slump raises risk over Crown

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The ability of James Packer’s Crown Resorts to pay for a bulging pipeline of new casino developments could be at risk because of weak high roller activity around the world.
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Mr Gandler said an ongoing slump in VIP activity in the world’s largest gambling hub Macau raised a number of questions about the sustainability of the market segment in Australia. “About A$7 of our Crown valuation is exposed to global VIP gaming and Macau,” he said in a note to clients.

“There is, of course, Macau and the Australian VIP revenue streams, but there is also the planned Vegas casino and the planned Sydney casino. Both of these ventures are expected to be very dependent upon VIP patronage.”
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Old December 16th, 2014, 01:09 PM   #3822
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So what...is there a risk for the Casino being even built?
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Old December 16th, 2014, 01:52 PM   #3823
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One would hope that they are aware markets are cyclic and VIP patronage will return? When talking about a building that will serve the company for decades to come you can't be thinking in the short term.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 03:07 PM   #3824
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I wouldn't be so sentimental, Crown is a business first. If the sums don't add up it won't get built or it will be delivered in a different, cheaper form.

They canned a slightly taller tower in Las Vegas back in 2008.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Las_Vegas
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Old December 16th, 2014, 09:42 PM   #3825
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I wouldn't be so sentimental, Crown is a business first. If the sums don't add up it won't get built or it will be delivered in a different, cheaper form.

They canned a slightly taller tower in Las Vegas back in 2008.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Las_Vegas
Las Vegas though, that's an entirely different thing. Vegas is all Casino's, Sydney on the other hand only has Star, its Australia's largest and most prominent city and Crown is Australian. Not having a prominent Casino here, especially in Barangaroo, or even going back on their initial design now that they even put a LEGO model of their building on display...well, that wouldn't sound like Packer. They can lose a casino in Vegas but they need this one here in Sydney and it needs to be special.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 07:08 AM   #3826
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Obviously Packer wants a gaming interest here in Sydney. His father was desparate to get the rights to build what is now The Star and the Packers have tried to get their hands on it since.

And it needs to be better than what The Star offers especially with VIP gaming.

Plus he is trying to fix a problem he thinks Sydney has in terms of attracting tourists.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 08:31 AM   #3827
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while the news cycle is quiet...

I dont think this was ever posted..

This design was done at the same time as design comp as an alternative --yes it does revolve and it is huge!

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Independently from Barangaroo design competitions, AZIMUTH has been designed by Cant Dibden Architects, with acknowledgements to earlier conceptual work by Hassell.

AZIMUTH is a unique concept designed to put Sydney ‘on the map’.
While debate rages as to the pros and cons of rival casino bids AZIMUTH
transcends the usual architectural conventions to present a world first opportunity for our truly iconic city.

This landmark building features revolving hotel, possible casino, apartment and commercial facilities with 360o views from all rooms.
http://www.cantdibden.com.au/azimuth...or-barangaroo/

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Old December 29th, 2014, 08:47 AM   #3828
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I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...
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Old December 29th, 2014, 09:29 AM   #3829
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How utterly tacky.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 09:15 PM   #3830
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The revolving hotel would have been a revolution but an awful design overall.
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Old December 30th, 2014, 03:53 AM   #3831
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Don't agree it suits Sydney well - tacky
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Old December 30th, 2014, 04:56 AM   #3832
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Lol what the farrrk is that!
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Old December 30th, 2014, 05:26 AM   #3833
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More like an oversized robot if you asked me.
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Old December 30th, 2014, 05:37 AM   #3834
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Indeed. I could actually see myself becoming one of those chained to the bulldozer nimbys if that was ever seriously proposed.
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Old January 14th, 2015, 11:11 AM   #3835
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CROWN SYDNEY WEBSITE
http://crownsydney.com.au/index.html

Not all pictures are new, so excuse some double ups on previous updates.


Crown Sydney proposal by Sky_Is_The_Limit1, on Flickr


Crown Sydney proposal by Sky_Is_The_Limit1, on Flickr


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WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma

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Old January 14th, 2015, 11:15 AM   #3836
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CONTINUED
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Old January 14th, 2015, 11:16 AM   #3837
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CONTINUED
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Old January 14th, 2015, 12:10 PM   #3838
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There's also a page in the website where there's a video with a few angles we haven't seen before
http://crownsydney.com.au/sydneys-new-icon.html

Several more here:
http://crownsydney.com.au/gallery.html
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Old January 14th, 2015, 12:19 PM   #3839
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videos are great and the images are the best quality resolution we have seen





















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Old January 14th, 2015, 12:26 PM   #3840
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Stunning design, absolutely timeless and elegant. Perfect for the area
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