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Old May 15th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #1
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Euro 2020

Ireland is to join with Wales and Scotland to potentially bid to host Euro 2020!!!

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/inter...three-way-bid/

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/scotla...land-1-2294798

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1337072622841A

Ireland could potentially put forward 4 stadia:

Croke Park

Aviva Stadium (Landsdowne Road for the old skoolers:P)

Thomond Park (Contingent on both goal ends being developed)

Bpairc I Caoimh (If redevelopment goes ahead)

Scotland will obviously be proposing, Hampden Park, Murrayfiend, Celtic Park and Ibrox. With possible redevelopment plans in Aberdeen and Dundee.

Wales...the Milenium Stadium might be the only show in town although the Liberty Stadium can aparently be extended as part of its design.

I think the host have to submit 10 Stadia as after this year the Euros are going to a 24 team format. We should be able to cover that requirement without the need to construct new Stadia.

Croker could even have a case to host the final

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I would love to have the Euro's here. What a boost it wold be for everyone. The only bad thing about the bid is that Scotland want the final which I do not agree with. I think Croke Park should be put forward and if the GAA dont allow it that the goverment should step in and put it in anyway. Croke Park should be the place for the final and if they were to develope the Hill then that could go p to a 100,000 seater for the Euro's final and maybe even a CL final if we cold get it. Its all about the tourism to the goverment so they should go for this. I have a feeling that if we do go for this with Scotland and Wales that it could go a bit like I want my stadium to host the final between the three countries. I hope it happens anyway.
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I might be wrong here, but wasn't it already decided that this would be Scotland and Wales' bid, and Ireland are just piggybacking now? If that's the case, it would be ridiculous to demand the final!
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Final would be in Wales for sure, it's got the best stadium the 3 countries have to offer.

Murrayfield
Hampden Park
Ibrox
Aberdeen Stadium

Croke Park
Aviva Stadium
Páirc Uí Chaoimh

Millenium Stadium
Cardiff City Stadium
Liberty Stadium

Can't see us putting Parkhead forward, it might be 60,000 but it's got some awful restricted views.

Aberdeen FC want to relocate to an edge of city stadium, they have plans to build a 22,000 stadium, but it will be a bowl-stadium so I expect their plans allow expansion, even temporally to 30,000 for the Euros, and reduciton back to 22,000 afterwards.

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Would be fantastic to have another big event in Scotland, so soon after the Commonwealths, and sharing it with other small Wales and Ireland seems logical.
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I think Croke Park has the highest capacity of all the Stadiums listed?! It certainly would if Hill 16 was redeveloped....by a country mile.

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Are you sure the minimum requirement is 30k and not 35k? I know in Poland thats one of the reasons why Krakow isn't hosting any matches despite the fact that it as a tourist centre has far superior accommodation to some other locations. Wisla Krakow stadium only holds 33k and there is limited room for expansion.

I'd say Park Head would definately be put forward given that its 60k. Remember because of the proximity of Europe, unlike the world cup, every country even the "smaller ones" send tens of thousands of fans.

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I might be wrong here, but wasn't it already decided that this would be Scotland and Wales' bid, and Ireland are just piggybacking now? If that's the case, it would be ridiculous to demand the final!
Well, these are just prelininary talks, so, its more of a joint bid as opposed to one major partner aided by smaller partners.
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If Ireland is serious about bidding for the Rugby World Cup in 2023....this could be a great proving ground!
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Old May 20th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #8
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I cant see us getting the 2020 Euros. I think it will go to Turkey (as long as Istanbul doesnt get awarded the Olympics that year), they have bidded unsuccessfully for a number of tournaments now, are soccer mad and are one of the few European countries with the money needed. I cant see the GAA backing the bid because the tournament takes place in the middle of the championships.

I think the 2023 Rugby World Cup is a more realistic possibility. There are a number of thinks in our favour; the tournament will be coming back to Europe and England and France will have hosted recently, Irish rugby is very strong right now, the IRB headquarters are in Dublin and the IRFU have are more influencial than the FAI. The tournament runs from September to October timing means it would be more likely to get the support of the GAA.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 10:02 PM   #9
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I can't see Ireland getting Euro 2020 as part of a joint bit AND if we do the only stadium they'll use is the Aviva because the rest of the large stadiums in Ireland are GAA only stadiums are not really suitable for football.
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Turkey won't get it though because UEFA would be wary about potential trouble at matches and during the tournament. That's what I have heard anyway.
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Turkey has more chance than Ireland does in the next 30 years of hosting a major tournament.
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Turkey won't get it though because UEFA would be wary about potential trouble at matches and during the tournament. That's what I have heard anyway.
They gave Euro 2012 to Poland and Ukraine despite the glaring fact that both countries have a horrendous reputation for football violence, racism and hooliganism.

Turkey has every chance of hosting.
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They gave Euro 2012 to Poland and Ukraine despite the glaring fact that both countries have a horrendous reputation for football violence, racism and hooliganism.

Turkey has every chance of hosting.
Turkey are favourites unless another "big" country comes out of the woodwork.
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I think if something happens in Poland or the Ukraine this year then a couple of minds could be changed about Turkey getting it in 2020.
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I think if something happens in Poland or the Ukraine this year then a couple of minds could be changed about Turkey getting it in 2020.
Probably correct. Although, if South Africa can pull it off Poland and Ukraine should be fine.
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Euro 2020

There is a lot of talk about if Euro 2020 could happen but no one has looked at if the tournament did go ahead how would the tournament unfold. If the format from the USA 94 World Cup is used which had 24 teams and only used 9 stadiums it easy enough to work out the groups. 2 groups would be in Ireland, 2 groups in Scotland and 2 groups in Wales with some games been played in Celtic Park to take the pressure off the Welsh. This situation would avoid the need for fans to travel much until the quarter finals when there would be less fans at that stage of the tournament.


The following 10 stadiums could be used for the tournament:


Ireland:
Croke Park (73,500) - 5 games
Aviva Stadium (51,000) - 6 games
Pairc Ui Chaoimh (50,000) - 4 games


Scotland:
Hampden Park (52,000) - 8 games
Celtic Park (60,000) - 4 games
Murrayfield Stadium (67,000) - 6 games
Aberdeen Stadium (30,000) - 4 games


Wales:
Millenium Stadium (74,500) - 8 games
Cardiff Stadium (30,000) - 3 games
Liberty Stadium (30,000) - 4 games


So what are the stadium issues in Ireland:
1. GAA wont leave them use Croke Park stadium during the championship season.
A. The only games played in Croke Park during June are the Leinster football quarter finals and semi finals which were held on 5 June (41,000) and 26 June (58,000) in 2011. Both these games could easily be held in other provincial grounds (Portlaoise, Navan, etc). Plus the money gained from Euro 2020 would massively benefit the GAA to develop their own game.


2. Could Pairc Ui Chaoimh in Cork be used:
Pairc Ui Chaoimh received planning permission a couple of months ago to develop a 50,000 all seater stadium. The architects designing the stadium are the same ones that designed the Aviva stadium (UEFA elite stadium) so they would know whats is required to meet UEFA minimum standards to hold a tournament. The GAA would have to amend Rule 42 but the money gained from games held in the stadium it should get the go ahead.
All Munster GAA championship games held during that time could be held in other provincial grounds like Thurles, Limerick and Killarney.


Issues in Scotland:
1. Need to bring Aberdeen stadium up to 30,000 seater:
Aberdeen are in the process of developing a stadium and would need to probably design a stadium that could hold 30,000 for Euro 2020 and then reduce it back to 20,000 for the SPL to make it feasible but thats the only issue in Scotland.


Issues in Wales:
1 Bring Swansea and Cardiff City Stadium up to 30,000.
Cardiff City Stadium is already at 26,500 and the stadium was designed so that it could be easily brought up to 30,000 which is planned for future development. With Swansea in the Premiership (or championship) they regularly sell out their 20,000 seater stadium. They could definately cater a 30,000 seater in their city.


So if the tournament starts on the 8th June this is what it would look like. No two games would be held in the same city on the same day. The opening game should be in Croke Park with the semi´s in Hampden and Millenium. Final in Millenium (best stadium). The reason the opening ceremony would be in Croke Park is because Euro 2020 could give the stadium back to the GAA after the last 16 games.


Group A:
Rep. of Ireland
Russia
Spain
Sweden

Jun 8 Rep. of Ireland v Sweden ..................Croke Park
Jun 9 Spain v Russia ................................Aviva Stadium
Jun 12 Rep. of Ireland v Spain ...................Croke Park
Jun 13 Russia v Sweden ...........................Pairc Ui Chaoimh
Jun 17 Rep. of Ireland v Russia ..................Croke Park
Jun 17 Spain v Sweden ............................Pairc Ui Chaoimh


Group B:
France
Denmark
Romania
Switzerland


Jun 10 France v Switzerland .....................Pairc Ui Chaoimh
Jun 11 Romania v Denmark .......................Aviva Stadium
Jun 15 Switzerland v Romania ...................Croke Park
Jun 16 France v Denmark ........................Aviva Stadium
Jun 20 Denmark v Switzerland ..................Aviva Stadium
Jun 20 Romania v France ........................Pairc Ui Chaoimh


Group C:
Scotland
Portugal
Greece
Bulgaria


Jun 12 Scotland v Bulgaria ........................Hampden Park
Jun 12 Portugal v Greece ..........................Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 16 Portugal v Bulgaria .........................Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 17 Scotland v Greece .........................Celtic Park
Jun 21 Bulgaria v Greece ...........................Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 21 Scotland v Portugal ........................Hampden Park


Group D:
Germany
Croatia
Poland
Austria


Jun 9 Germany v Croatia .....................Aberdeen
Jun 10 Poland v Austria ......................Hampden Park
Jun 13 Germany v Poland ....................Aberdeen
Jun 14 Croatia v Austria .....................Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 18 Poland v Croatia ......................Aberdeen
Jun 18 Germany v Austria ....................Hampden Park


Group E:
Wales
Italy
Norway
Ukraine


Jun 8 Wales v Italy ......................Millenium Stadium
Jun 9 Norway v Ukraine .................Liberty Stadium
Jun 14 Wales v Norway .................Millenium Stadium
Jun 15 Italy v Ukraine ...................Cardiff City Stadium
Jun 19 Italy v Norway ...................Liberty Stadium
Jun 19 Wales v Ukraine .................Millenium Stadium


Group F:
England
Holland
Belgium
Czech Rep


Jun 10 England v Belgium ....................Cardiff City Stadium
Jun 11 Holland v Czech Rep .................Liberty Stadium
Jun 15 Belgium v Holland .....................Celtic Park
Jun 16 England v Czech Rep ................Millenium Stadium
Jun 22 England v Holland .....................Celtic Park
Jun 22 Czech Rep v Belgium ................Cardiff City Stadium


Second Round:
Jun 24 Rep. of Ireland v Poland ...............Croke Park
Jun 24 Spain v Switzerland .....................Aberdeen
Jun 25 Denmark v Italy ..........................Liberty Stadium
Jun 25 France v Portugal .......................Aviva Stadium
Jun 26 Russia v Croatia .........................Celtic Park
Jun 26 Germany v Wales .......................Millenium Stadium
Jun 27 Scotland v Holland .....................Hampden Park
Jun 27 England v Greece .......................Murrayfield Stadium


Quarter Finals:
Jul 1 Rep. of Ireland v France ...............Aviva Stadium
Jul 1 Spain v Russia ............................Murrayfield Stadium
Jul 2 Italy v Germany ..........................Millenium Stadium
Jul 2 Scotland v England ......................Hampden Park


Semi Finals:
Jul 5 ??????? v ?????? ........................Millenium Stadium
Jul 5 ??????? v ?????? ........................Hampden Park


3rd / 4th place play-off:
Jul 8 ??????? v ???????? ....................Hampden Park


Final:
Jul 9 ??????? v ???????? ....................Millenium Stadium



The financial benefits to the country would be massive and it would bring a lot of excitement to each country as well. I don´t think it would cost a lot to get the stadiums up to standard for what would be a fantastic tournament. Bring on Euro 2020.

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I dont think thats all right. First of all Croke Park is bigger then the Millenium and should be the host of the final. We could also use Thomond Park too which could be upgraded. We need a game in the latter stages in the Aviva or Croke Park. I dont think Wales would be able to have two groups with three stadiums. I think they would need at least 4. I could see it going like this for the semi's and final. Semi final 1 in Hampden Park, semi final 2 in the Millenium, 3rd/4th place paly-off in the Aviva and the final in Croke Park. That would be good for us I think.
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There is a lot of talk about if Euro 2020 could happen but no one has looked at if the tournament did go ahead how would the tournament unfold. If the format from the USA 94 World Cup is used which had 24 teams and only used 9 stadiums it easy enough to work out the groups. 2 groups would be in Ireland, 2 groups in Scotland and 2 groups in Wales with some games been played in Celtic Park to take the pressure off the Welsh. This situation would avoid the need for fans to travel much until the quarter finals when there would be less fans at that stage of the tournament.


The following 10 stadiums could be used for the tournament:


Ireland:
Croke Park (73,500) - 5 games
Aviva Stadium (51,000) - 6 games
Pairc Ui Chaoimh (50,000) - 4 games


Scotland:
Hampden Park (52,000) - 8 games
Celtic Park (60,000) - 4 games
Murrayfield Stadium (67,000) - 6 games
Aberdeen Stadium (30,000) - 4 games


Wales:
Millenium Stadium (74,500) - 8 games
Cardiff Stadium (30,000) - 3 games
Liberty Stadium (30,000) - 4 games


So what are the stadium issues in Ireland:
1. GAA wont leave them use Croke Park stadium during the championship season.
A. The only games played in Croke Park during June are the Leinster football quarter finals and semi finals which were held on 5 June (41,000) and 26 June (58,000) in 2011. Both these games could easily be held in other provincial grounds (Portlaoise, Navan, etc). Plus the money gained from Euro 2020 would massively benefit the GAA to develop their own game.


2. Could Pairc Ui Chaoimh in Cork be used:
Pairc Ui Chaoimh received planning permission a couple of months ago to develop a 50,000 all seater stadium. The architects designing the stadium are the same ones that designed the Aviva stadium (UEFA elite stadium) so they would know whats is required to meet UEFA minimum standards to hold a tournament. The GAA would have to amend Rule 42 but the money gained from games held in the stadium it should get the go ahead.
All Munster GAA championship games held during that time could be held in other provincial grounds like Thurles, Limerick and Killarney.


Issues in Scotland:
1. Need to bring Aberdeen stadium up to 30,000 seater:
Aberdeen are in the process of developing a stadium and would need to probably design a stadium that could hold 30,000 for Euro 2020 and then reduce it back to 20,000 for the SPL to make it feasible but thats the only issue in Scotland.


Issues in Wales:
1 Bring Swansea and Cardiff City Stadium up to 30,000.
Cardiff City Stadium is already at 26,500 and the stadium was designed so that it could be easily brought up to 30,000 which is planned for future development. With Swansea in the Premiership (or championship) they regularly sell out their 20,000 seater stadium. They could definately cater a 30,000 seater in their city.


So if the tournament starts on the 8th June this is what it would look like. No two games would be held in the same city on the same day. The opening game should be in Croke Park with the semi´s in Hampden and Millenium. Final in Millenium (best stadium). The reason the opening ceremony would be in Croke Park is because Euro 2020 could give the stadium back to the GAA after the last 16 games.


Group A:
Rep. of Ireland
Russia
Spain
Sweden

Jun 8 Rep. of Ireland v Sweden Croke Park
Jun 9 Spain v Russia Aviva Stadium
Jun 12 Rep. of Ireland v Spain Croke Park
Jun 13 Russia v Sweden Pairc Ui Chaoimh
Jun 17 Rep. of Ireland v Russia Croke Park
Jun 17 Spain v Sweden Pairc Ui Chaoimh


Group B:
France
Denmark
Romania
Switzerland


Jun 10 France v Switzerland Pairc Ui Chaoimh
Jun 11 Romania v Denmark Aviva Stadium
Jun 15 Switzerland v Romania Croke Park
Jun 16 France v Denmark Aviva Stadium
Jun 20 Denmark v Switzerland Aviva Stadium
Jun 20 Romania v France Pairc Ui Chaoimh


Group C:
Scotland
Portugal
Greece
Bulgaria


Jun 12 Scotland v Bulgaria Hampden Park
Jun 12 Portugal v Greece Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 16 Portugal v Bulgaria Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 17 Scotland v Greece Celtic Park
Jun 21 Bulgaria v Greece Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 21 Scotland v Portugal Hampden Park


Group D:
Germany
Croatia
Poland
Austria


Jun 9 Germany v Croatia Aberdeen
Jun 10 Poland v Austria Hampden Park
Jun 13 Germany v Poland Aberdeen
Jun 14 Croatia v Austria Murrayfield Stadium
Jun 18 Poland v Croatia Aberdeen
Jun 18 Germany v Austria Hampden Park


Group E:
Wales
Italy
Norway
Ukraine


Jun 8 Wales v Italy Millenium Stadium
Jun 9 Norway v Ukraine Liberty Stadium
Jun 14 Wales v Norway Millenium Stadium
Jun 15 Italy v Ukraine Cardiff City Stadium
Jun 19 Italy v Norway Liberty Stadium
Jun 19 Wales v Ukraine Millenium Stadium


Group F:
England
Holland
Belgium
Czech Rep


Jun 10 England v Belgium Cardiff City Stadium
Jun 11 Holland v Czech Rep Liberty Stadium
Jun 15 Belgium v Holland Celtic Park
Jun 16 England v Czech Rep Millenium Stadium
Jun 22 England v Holland Celtic Park
Jun 22 Czech Rep v Belgium Cardiff City Stadium


Second Round:
Jun 24 Rep. of Ireland v Poland Croke Park
Jun 24 Spain v Switzerland Aberdeen
Jun 25 Denmark v Italy Liberty Stadium
Jun 25 France v Portugal Aviva Stadium
Jun 26 Russia v Croatia Celtic Park
Jun 26 Germany v Wales Millenium Stadium
Jun 27 Scotland v Holland Hampden Park
Jun 27 England v Greece Murrayfield Stadium


Quarter Finals:
Jul 1 Rep. of Ireland v France Aviva Stadium
Jul 1 Spain v Russia Murrayfield Stadium
Jul 2 Italy v Germany Millenium Stadium
Jul 2 Scotland v England Hampden Park


Semi Finals:
Jul 5 ??????? v ?????? Millenium Stadium
Jul 5 ??????? v ?????? Hampden Park


3rd / 4th place play-off:
Jul 8 ??????? v ???????? Hampden Park


Final:
Jul 9 ??????? v ???????? Millenium Stadium



The financial benefits to the country would be massive and it would bring a lot of excitement to each country as well. I don´t think it would cost a lot to get the stadiums up to standard for what would be a fantastic tournament. Bring on Euro 2020.
Why have you missed out Ibrox stadium(50.000)?Much better than Aberdeen(30,000)
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