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Old October 10th, 2010, 11:28 PM   #901
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Great, but needs new lines. Like all the other brazilian cities. Go go go Brazil!!!
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Old October 11th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #902
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Video of line 1 near Carandiru, by Eduardo GJF

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Old October 11th, 2010, 01:36 AM   #903
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Those EMUs, remind me of ones used in San Francisco bay Area, the BART.

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Old October 11th, 2010, 01:54 AM   #904
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Actually the line 1 "A" fleet trains have no relationship to the BART trains, but the Baltimore metro uses very similar units, they are an American design by the Budd Company (although manufactured in Brazil)

Baltimore train:

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Old October 11th, 2010, 02:54 AM   #905
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Those EMUs, remind me of ones used in San Francisco bay Area, the BART.

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Actually the line 1 "A" fleet trains have no relationship to the BART trains, but the Baltimore metro uses very similar units, they are an American design by the Budd Company (although manufactured in Brazil)
BART and SP Metro Line 1 are very similar to each other! And yes, they are related.

Check it out, a great thread about BART in the railfan forum site "TGVBR": http://www.tgvbr.protrem.org/phpBB3/...php?f=6&t=3250
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Old October 11th, 2010, 04:45 AM   #906
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The gigantic 12-car 5000 series Cobrasma-Francorail trainsets from 1979, that today serve only line 8 (until the early 2000s, 8-car versions served line 9 as well)



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Old October 11th, 2010, 05:06 AM   #907
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BART and SP Metro Line 1 are very similar to each other! And yes, they are related.

Check it out, a great thread about BART in the railfan forum site "TGVBR": http://www.tgvbr.protrem.org/phpBB3/...php?f=6&t=3250
Oh yes they are all Budds genetically by the only physical resemblance BART trains and Sao Paulo A/B fleet trains have is, vaguely, their frontal mask. The body is radically different and the connection between the A/B fleet and the Baltimore and Miami trains is far stronger.

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Miami train:

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Old October 11th, 2010, 05:46 AM   #908
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Oh yes they are all Budds genetically by the only physical resemblance BART trains and Sao Paulo A/B fleet trains have is, vaguely, their frontal mask. The body is radically different and the connection between the A/B fleet and the Baltimore and Miami trains is far stronger.

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Yeah, BART's trains were made by Rohr, a company that had no experience in making metro cars, so there ended up lots and lots of glitches that ended costing a lot of money, and delaying the opening of the system by 5 years. (Oh yeah, I'm going to make a Northern California Urban Transit Compilation Thread so we can get all of the diverse transit systems of region represented on the board.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 05:59 AM   #909
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So the BART trains are not Budds at all?
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Old October 11th, 2010, 09:09 AM   #910
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So the BART trains are not Budds at all?
Nope. But given the Large the US govt played in designing the BART trains, I wouldn't be surprised if some of tech and design were adapted to the budds.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 10:28 AM   #911
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Old October 11th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #912
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Yeah, BART's trains were made by Rohr, a company that had no experience in making metro cars, so there ended up lots and lots of glitches that ended costing a lot of money, and delaying the opening of the system by 5 years. (Oh yeah, I'm going to make a Northern California Urban Transit Compilation Thread so we can get all of the diverse transit systems of region represented on the board.
The first generation BART trains were built by Rohr (A Cars & B Cars). These are the trains with the sloping noses. BART subsequently ordered trains from Alstom (C1 Cars) and Morrison-Knudsen (C2 Cars). The newer trains feature flat noses with doors. The first generation trains allow passengers to walk through the entire length of the train, but trains can only be lengthened or shortened from the middle, which requires switching movements to split the train. The newer trains can be lengthened or shortened by adding or removing cars from the ends, but passengers cannot walk past the drivers cabs of the middle cars.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 06:50 PM   #913
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Are there any other trains of a similar type to the A/B fleet of Sao Paulo, like the Miami and Baltimore trains in the pics above?
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Old October 11th, 2010, 10:31 PM   #914
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Old October 11th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #915
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The first generation BART trains were built by Rohr (A Cars & B Cars). These are the trains with the sloping noses. BART subsequently ordered trains from Alstom (C1 Cars) and Morrison-Knudsen (C2 Cars). The newer trains feature flat noses with doors. The first generation trains allow passengers to walk through the entire length of the train, but trains can only be lengthened or shortened from the middle, which requires switching movements to split the train. The newer trains can be lengthened or shortened by adding or removing cars from the ends, but passengers cannot walk past the drivers cabs of the middle cars.
The C1 and C2's generally are not lengthened or shortened by removing cars in the ends, instead the the trains are organized like this C(A)-B-B-C(A) or C(A)-B-B-B-C(A), a 4 or 5 five configuration that is lengthened to longer trains by connecting a 4 or 5 car set to another 4 or 5 car set, (creating a train of either 8, 9, or 10 cars.) though there is an exception to this on the Richmond-Fremont service which uses either one or two 3 car sets.

BART trains are walkthrough, but you open two sets of doors to get between cars.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 03:22 AM   #916
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Line 4 update by GiovanniGronchi

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Renovated line 9 Pinheiros for new integration with line 4:



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Faria Lima new acess



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Old October 12th, 2010, 03:32 AM   #917
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High definition high-speed frontal view video of line 11 from Guaianazes to Brás, by Tiago Costa (well worth watching in high def and full screen)

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Old October 12th, 2010, 09:55 PM   #918
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PSDs in Vila Matilde by Lro AC

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Old October 12th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #919
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Old October 13th, 2010, 07:03 AM   #920
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