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Old December 4th, 2010, 05:33 AM   #1141
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Looks great, I hadn't seen it yet
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Old December 4th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #1142
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Jardim Romano station.





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Old December 5th, 2010, 12:07 AM   #1143
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CPTM lines tourist friendly???

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Is the Metro tourist friendly? Is it easy to use by the tourists or really, just meant to be used by the locals to commute to work and school?
Are the CPTM lines tourist friendly. Would like to ride the lines on my next trip to Sao Paulo???

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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:23 AM   #1144
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Well I don't know what is tourist-friendly in your conceptions, but if you want to know the CPTM's system, is not difficult to use and it's not unsafe (but as every busy system in the world, you are responsible to keep your eyes on your things).
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Old December 5th, 2010, 08:07 AM   #1145
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I'd say it's not tourist friendly because the system is small compared to the city at large, so it doesn't quite go where you want to.

Also, I lived there for two years.....and in all honestly, the city isn't tourist friendly at all. Lots of great restaurants, but not much to see.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 08:32 AM   #1146
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I guess jlingoa wanted to know about the CPTM lines exactly if they are tourist-friendly, like signeages and stuff.

Well, I didn't ride all lines yet of course, but as far as I remember there isn't english signeage on CPTM. I was wondering if maybe on these new stations, and on the recovered ones, they've putten it already.

Now, about the Metro itself (lines 1 to 5), the new visual identity contains both Portuguese and English. But they're just starting to change it, so for now, most of the stuff are portuguese-only.


But its quite simple actually, and as it were already said, its very intuitive, so I guess you won't face any problems. The transfer between the lines is really simple too and the stations' exits have the name of the streets to help out.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #1147
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Well, learning some Portuguese words won't hurt anyone, you'd better have in mind the meaning of some words which are used in the system. Fortunately, signeages in CPTM and Metro are very similar. And CPTM works exactly like Metro - each line going only two directions, no different destination trains on the same tracks, no special express trains, no time table. Everything very intuitive, as already said in previous posts.

We got some truth said here... except in some cases, tourists wouldn't use CPTM... unless they really want to, or if they have to go to other cities inside the metropolitan region.

Only times I saw foreign people in CPTM was in the Brazilian F1 GP... the best way to get to Interlagos in the days of F1 GP is by using CPTM Line 9.
Oh, once I saw a couple talking in English in Line 10 - and they didn't look or sound like Brazilian.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 03:01 PM   #1148
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Line 9 near Berrini station, from some high-rise, by Fischerzin

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Old December 5th, 2010, 03:28 PM   #1149
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WOW, cool! He shot the entire consist
This is going to be hard in the future, Line 9 trains will start rolling with eight cars (two coupled EMUs) in instead of four (a single EMU).
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Old December 5th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #1150
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I'd say it's not tourist friendly because the system is small compared to the city at large, so it doesn't quite go where you want to.

Also, I lived there for two years.....and in all honestly, the city isn't tourist friendly at all. Lots of great restaurants, but not much to see.
you gotta have money to enjoy Sampa life style.. honestly if dont have money boooo hooo u are excluded
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Old December 5th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #1151
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I'd say it's not tourist friendly because the system is small compared to the city at large, so it doesn't quite go where you want to.

Also, I lived there for two years.....and in all honestly, the city isn't tourist friendly at all. Lots of great restaurants, but not much to see.
Not much to see...

São Paulo. The largest city of South-America.

This city is the most important economic and financial center of Brazil and generates 18% of the national GDP. It is the municipal head district of the metropolitan region of São Paulo and has approximately 17 million inhabitants, gathering a fascinating mixture of people coming from diverse regions of the country and the world, all finding in the city their reason for living.
São Paulo has a speedy rhythm, but this rhythm is not just a product of work. The passion for culture and art vibrates with the same intensity, transforming the city into one of the principal centers of multi-culture, as well as of interesting tourism spots and business events.
And in this context the subway offers a fast alternative, providing safety and comfort for people who want to get acquainted with São Paulo. There are theaters, cinemas, museums, show houses, shopping centers, parks, bars, restaurants - in short, the options available at each station are countless. And you can begin with the Metrô installations themselves, finding in the actual stations a collection than 90 works of art created by well-known contemporary artists. São Paulo is waiting for you.
http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/ingles/to...etourism.shtml

Line 1 Blue.
  • Imigrantes Exhibition Center - at a distance of 1,200 m from Jabaquara station.
  • Metro's Operational Control Center - Paraíso station.
  • Jabaquara Cultural Center - Jabaquara station.
  • Banco do Brasil Cultural Center - São Bento station.
  • Botanical Garden - São Judas Station + bus transfer.
  • Lasar Segall Museum - Vila Mariana station.
  • Sacred Art Museum - Tiradentes station.
  • Japanese Immigr. Museum - São Joaquim station.
  • Anhembi Park - Tietê Station + bus transfer.
  • State File Office - Tietê station.
  • Alimação Park - Ana Rosa Station + bus transfer.
  • Sambódromo - Tietê Station + bus transfer.
  • Zoo - Jabaquara Station + bus transfer.
  • Zoo Safari - São Judas Station + bus transfer.
  • Cinematheque - Vila Mariana Station + bus transfer.
  • São Judas church - São Judas station.
  • Mosteiro de São Bento - São Bento station.
  • Santa Cruz Shopping Mall - Santa Cruz station.
  • 25 de Março street - São Bento station.
  • Santa Ifigênia viaduct - São Bento station.
  • Correio square - São Bento station.
  • Juventude park - Carandiru station.

Line 2 Green.
  • Pacaembu Stadium - Clínicas station.
  • Trianon Park - Trianon Masp station.
  • MASP - Trianon Masp station.
  • Bixiga Museum - Brigadeiro Station + bus transfer.
  • Ibirapuera Park - Brigadeiro Station + bus transfer.
  • Casa das Rosas - Brigadeiro station.
  • Itaú Cultural Institute - Brigadeiro Station.
  • Sérgio Cardoso Theater - Brigadeiro Station + bus transfer.
  • Jewish Cultural Center - Sumaré station.
  • São Paulo Aquarium - Imigrantes station.
  • Santuário Nossa Senhora de Fátima - Sumaré station.
  • Pátio Paulista Shopping Mall - Brigadeiro station.
  • Center 3 Shopping Mall - Trianon Masp station.
  • Reserva Cultural - Trianon Masp station.
  • Conjunto Nacional - Consolação station.
  • Vila Prudente Ecological Park - Vila Pudente station.
  • Sesc Vila Mariana - Ana Rosa station.
  • Orthodox Metropolitan Cathedral - Paraíso station.

Line 3 Red.
  • Sé Cathedral - Sé station.
  • Latin America Memorial - Barra Funda station.
  • Carmo Park - Corinthians-Itaquera Station + bus transfer.
  • Água Branca Park - Barra Funda station.
  • Pateo do Collegio - Sé station.
  • Playcenter amusement park - Barra Funda Station + exclusive bus at the terminal.
  • Municipal Theater - Anhangabaú station.
  • São Pedro Theater - Marechal Deodoro station.
  • Immigrant's Memorial - Bresser station.
  • Palestra Itália stadium - Barra Funda station.
  • West Plaza Shopping Mall - Barra Funda Station.
  • Tatuapé Shopping Mall and Boulevard Tatuapé Shopping Mall - Tatuapé station.
  • Itaquera Shopping Mall - Corinthians-Itaquera station.
  • República square - República station.
  • Itália Building - República station.
  • Anhangabaú valley - Anhangabaú station.
  • Grande São Paulo building - Anhangabaú station.
  • Chá viaduct - Anhangabaú station.
  • Ramos de Azevedo square - Ananhgabaú station.
  • Dom Pedro II Park - Pedro II station.

Line 4 Yellow.
  • Cine Belas Artes - Paulista station.
  • Instituto Tomie Ohtake - Faria Lima station.

Line 5 Lilac.
  • Treze de Maio square - Largo Treze station.
  • Transamérica Expo Center - Santo Amaro station.
  • Credicard Hall - Santo Amaro station.

Line 7 Ruby.
  • Jundiaí city - Jundiaí station or special train from Luz station.
  • Bourbon Shopping Mall - Água Branca station.
  • Sesc Pompéia - Água Branca Station.

Line 8 Diamond
  • São Paulo Hall - Júlio Prestes station.
  • Mercado da Lapa - Lapa station.
  • Leopoldina-Villas Bôas Park - Imperatriz Leopoldina station.
  • Júlio Prestes square - Júlio Prestes station.
  • Princesa Isabel square - Júlio Prestes station.

Line 9 Emerald.
  • Villa Lobos Park - Jaguaré-Villa Lobos station.
  • USP - Cidade Universitária station.
  • CEAGESP - Ceasa station.
  • Jockey Club - Cidade Jardim station.
  • Hebraica - Hebraica-Rebouças station.
  • Eldorado Shopping Mall - Hebraica-Rebouças station.
  • Povo's park - Cidade Jardim station.
  • Octavio Frias de Oliveira cable-stayed bridge - Morumbi station.
  • Morumbi Shopping Mall - Morumbi station.
  • Market Place Shopping Mall - Morumbi station.
  • Interlagos Autodrome - Autódromo station.
  • São Paulo Golf Club - Socorro station.

Line 10 Turquoise.
  • Paulista/Ipiranga Museum - Ipiranga station.
  • Independência Park - Ipiranga station.
  • Central Plaza Shopping Mall - Tamanduateí station.
  • Paranapiacaba historical village - Rio Grande da Serra station + bus transfer or special train from Luz station.

Line 11 Coral.
  • Luz Park - Luz station.
  • Pinacoteca - Luz station.
  • Mogi das Cruzes city - Mogi das Cruzes station or special train from Luz station.
  • Museum of the Portuguese Language - Luz station

Line 12 Sapphire.
  • USP Leste - USP Leste station.
  • Tietê Ecological Park - Engenheiro Goulart station.
  • Concórdia square - Brás station.

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Old December 5th, 2010, 10:17 PM   #1153
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you gotta have money to enjoy Sampa life style.. honestly if dont have money boooo hooo u are excluded
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Old December 5th, 2010, 11:39 PM   #1154
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Villa Lobos - Jaguaré station.






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Old December 6th, 2010, 02:06 AM   #1155
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Line 9 near Berrini station, from some high-rise, by Fischerzin

cool pic, I guess it was taken from the Nestlé building.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 01:31 PM   #1156
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you gotta have money to enjoy Sampa life style.. honestly if dont have money boooo hooo u are excluded
Pretending i didn t read this

I guess tourist friendly means a day pass to ride 24 hours and free map for everyone. CPTM don t offer these things but the system is safe in most of the lines. Metro is safe in ALL lines. But don t ride lines 7 and 12 (CPTM) because it´s not safe and try to avoid the system in peak hours because it s too crowded.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 02:22 PM   #1157
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This is not true. First of all, CPTM offer free maps for everyone, just like Metrô-SP. CPTM's security is good in ALL lines too, even for lines 7 and 12. The security is not perfect neither in Metrô-SP nor in CPTM, so you have to pay attention on your things just like you will do in Paris, for example. Too crowded is a thing that happens not only in CPTM lines, but in Metrô-SP lines too. And just like Metrô-SP, not all directions are so far crowded (but you feel it much more in CPTM lines in general, indeed).
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Old December 6th, 2010, 05:54 PM   #1158
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Old December 7th, 2010, 01:56 AM   #1159
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Pretending i didn t read this

I guess tourist friendly means a day pass to ride 24 hours and free map for everyone. CPTM don t offer these things but the system is safe in most of the lines. Metro is safe in ALL lines. But don t ride lines 7 and 12 (CPTM) because it´s not safe and try to avoid the system in peak hours because it s too crowded.
Thank you everyone for all your information!!!

Actually I should have made my message more clear by inquiring about the safety of a tourist railfan riding CPTM with a camera. I travel often to Sao Paulo, but have not had a chance to ride the CPTM trains. As you suggested I will avoid lines 7 and 12, but I definitely would like to ride on a train consisting of COBRASMA-Serie 5000 cars. They are quite beautiful

I can get around quite well as I speak a bit of Portugues; Falo MAIS O MENOS, em realidade, MENOS QUE MAIS

Muito obrigado.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 02:52 AM   #1160
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Oh, you'll have some trouble with a camera in hands - actually because of the the security staff.

Most of them are used to work with the old trip rules, which didn't allow users to take pictures.
But in the central stations like Luz or Brás I believe this kind of misunderstanding won't happen.

About Lines 7 and 12 - it's all prejudice, those lines are as safe as all other ones. They just go through poor regions so you'll see a lot of poverty and... maybe a few suspicious looking people. Act as if you were in any poor neighborhood in any city in the world...

About Line 8 trains (5000), their project is by Francorail-MTE, some of them are indeed made in France, the others in Brazil, by Cobrasma, following the same project.





Hurry up, they'll be replaced soon (2011) by new CAF trains.
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