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Old October 18th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #101
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wow/ sao paulo's subway is definitively not small; did someone compared it with montreal's subway or another one ?
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Old October 18th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #102
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updated map

it think that map is a bit old; this one is the newest



http://br.geocities.com/zostratus9/r...-cptm-2004.jpg
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Old October 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM   #103
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Very interesting!
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Old October 19th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #104
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Did you mean 3 decades?
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Old October 19th, 2009, 09:18 PM   #105
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heheh I should have know it would be confusing!

I meant to highlight the fact that what is NOW a metro system uses stations and rail that span three centuries: 19th, 20th and 21st.

The older stations were regular train stations but now are the metro. Nonetheless, the system is the result of a very long process that started around 1864, the creation of Sao Paulo's railroads.

I should have made it more clear in the opening post, sorry!
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Old October 19th, 2009, 09:45 PM   #106
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I thought the same. That you meant three decades but as I starting reading your comments, I got your point that it was to illustrate the three different centuries but even so it gives the idea that we are talking about nearly 300 years while the 3 diff centuries may only cover 150 yrs of history. Good job though. I really hope the METRO becomes a viable mass-transit solution to Sao Paulo's congestion issues.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 10:48 PM   #107
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It is already a viable solution, and it will be more and more in the future.

First of all, congratulations for the excellent thread! I liked, I just would suggest to use more recent photos available, since some photos are very outdated (Line 9 stations, for example).

Just some considerations about the initial post:

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[SIZE="7"]Train at Hebraica Rebouças Station, line 9 (CPTM, 2000). This line for the most part follows the Pinheiros river and is entirely at grade, totalling 34 km and 18 stations. Like all CPTM lines, it was formerly a regular railroad line for general purposes but has now been converted for metro-only uses. It transports only some 200,000 passengers a day because it still needs line 4 to connect it to the central part of the system. Ridership will rise to at least 600,000 a day by late 2010. New trains have been bought.
Actually, ridership will increase to 400,000-450,000 riders/day in late 2010, and only with the new trains purchased recently, wich will be manufactured soon.

Some consideration about the lines:

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[SIZE="7"]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f350/rocam29/CPTM/Linha%20E/IMG_8983.jpg
Line 10 Train near Bras station.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...E/IMG_3876.jpg
Line 10 Train at Dom Bosco station (2000) at the far east of the city.
Actually, these are Line 11 stations.

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[SIZE="7"]http://www.encontratatuape.com.br/imgs/imagens-tatuape/shopping_tatuape.jpg
Tatuapé Station (1987), lines 3, 11 and 10, eastern part of town.
Actually, the existing lines in Tatuapé station are lines 3, 11 and 12.


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[SIZE="7"]http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/american_lipe/CPTM/bras/bras_026.jpg
Brás Station (east of city center, lines 3, 10, 7, 11, 12), one of the largest physically, this picture only shows part of its CPTM section, to the left there is a huge elevated annex Metro station and two old-days railroad buildings to the right. The hole station is an amalgamation of several stations from different years.
Actually, the existent lines in Brás station complex are lines 3, 10, 11 and 12. Line 7 do not serves this station since around 2004.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 11:07 PM   #108
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Actually, this is the most recent map of the metropolitan network (with only the existing lines and stations):


http://www.cptm.sp.gov.br/E_IMAGES/g...tano_Out09.gif
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Old October 19th, 2009, 11:29 PM   #109
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Good thread, but the informations are a little confuse.

Some other considerations:

Line 8 does not reach Luz Station, only lines 1, 4(under construction), 7, 10 and 11.
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Luz Station, 1901 (lines 7, 8, 11, 10, 1 and 4) - will become the busiest in the system by 2011, of course there is a huge underground section, this is just the old British-built building from the Victorian age, now housing the Museum of the Portuguese Language.
Line 8 does not reach Luz Station, only lines 1, 4(under construction), 7, 10 and 11.
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Former Roosevelt station (1870, now part of Bras station)
This is the original Bras Station, not Roosevelt. Roosevelt was the name of the other side, buit by Central do Brasil Railroad
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Old October 20th, 2009, 02:14 PM   #110
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Tiago, Lipe, feel free to add any corrections, thank you!

The thing is that the new "numbering system" is still confusing to me, I remember the old lettering system better.

I just created this thread because we Brazilians have a great forum here but we share very little with the international part, besides our forums are Portuguese-only.
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Old October 20th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #111
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Do you have more information about the line 4 ?
The link that you posted doesn't work.
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Old October 20th, 2009, 07:22 PM   #112
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its true, the link became truncated by the forum and doesn't work let me look...
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Old October 20th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #113
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This should be the link for photo updates for September 2009 for line 2:

http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/expansao/...etembro_09.pdf

and this should work for line 4:

http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/expansao/...etembro_09.pdf



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Old October 20th, 2009, 07:45 PM   #114
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It works, thank you !
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Old October 25th, 2009, 07:16 PM   #115
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That is an impressive network - good work - the Luz station looks a bit like Flinders Street Station in Melbourne - it was a bit like deja vu!
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Old October 26th, 2009, 02:37 PM   #116
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Tiago, Lipe, feel free to add any corrections, thank you!

The thing is that the new "numbering system" is still confusing to me, I remember the old lettering system better.

I just created this thread because we Brazilians have a great forum here but we share very little with the international part, besides our forums are Portuguese-only.
I started some threads about the São Paulo lines, long time ago, but with short time I couldn't continue the other lines threads.


Line 1 - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=681416
Line 3 - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=690630


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Old October 26th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #117
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That is an impressive network - good work - the Luz station looks a bit like Flinders Street Station in Melbourne - it was a bit like deja vu!
Yes it was built by an English consortium which built that old railway in the 19th century. Today it's metro-only.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 03:38 AM   #118
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Thanks for sharing the Currently Map!
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Old February 1st, 2010, 11:52 PM   #119
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NEW LINE 4 YELLOW (2010) A DREAM FINALLY COMES TRUE

PLANNED IN THE 60'S AND APPROVED IN 1996, construction finally began in August 2004. The line will relieve the city's horrible lack of connectivity in the Southwest, and will transport some 1 million passengers/day.

The line is scheduled to be delivered in three phases:

PHASE 1 (2010)= main connection stations (4), yard, Butantã Faria Lima station
PHASE 2 (2012)= other 4 stations (which will be left half-finished in 2010)
PHASE 3 (2014)= Vila Sônia station (far southwest of town)







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Old February 2nd, 2010, 12:00 AM   #120
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Line 2 GREEN

UNDER EXPANSION TOWARD THE SOUTHEAST

Sacomã Station Latin America's first platform screen doors!






Also featuring Brazil's first glass turnstyles:


Tamanduateí Station: the line's only fully elevated station, providing connection with CPTM metro line 10 (which runs from downtown to Southeastern satellite cities)


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