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Old April 22nd, 2011, 05:32 AM   #1421
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 05:49 AM   #1422
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 12:05 PM   #1423
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So there is still no conection between L4 and L9 at Pinheiros?
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 02:52 PM   #1424
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No, line 4 Pinheiros will open on May 16 and it will still lack a direct unpaid connection through a walkway under construction, this free direct connection to line 9 Pinheiros will open a month later, but before that it will be possible to walk from one station to the other and pay to transfer (some speculate a free transfer might be issued for that period).
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 03:31 PM   #1425
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Looks like opening of new stations on Line 4 hardly proceeds. They built a tunel and started the operation just with 2 stations then added another one, and so on. What about the ridership on this weird line, which works like a shuttle until the new interchange will be opened? Is it comparable to other metro lines in SP?
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 04:13 PM   #1426
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No it's a few tens of thousands of people a day especially because it is still operating in limited times: from 8 am to 3 pm and only from Monday to Friday. Pinheiros station will probably make the line pass the 100,000 people/day mark. They plan to extend to full time by July (4:40 am to 12pm every day) and then open the two most important stations, Republica and Luz, probably around September.

The reason for such a slow pace is bad systems integration. The computerized train and platform screen door systems and other things was ordered from several different companies and when they tried to run it many things didn't come together, because the government did not specify well enough many details from these contractors. So line 4 opened in May 2010 and they need a lot of time to test everything before they go for full operations, even though all phase I stations have been basically ready for over a year.

What's worse is that phase II stations by contract will open only 2 years after phase I stations are operational, that means line 4 will only have all its stations open by late 2013 or early 2014. The final station Vila Sônia hasn't even been started yet, it will probably delay.
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 07:28 PM   #1427
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That's pity, coz it looked like SP started a splendide era of metro expansion.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 12:01 AM   #1428
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Well fortunately it can be said that the expansion will be real and will continue, delays of 1 or 2 years in plans are unfortunately common anywhere in the world, and even though SP can hardly afford any delays, it is no exception.

It is not only line 4; the line 5 expansion beyond Adolfo Pinheiro is currently halted due to suspicion of cartel formation by the contractors who were awarded the bidding, and a decision on whether a new bidding will be needed or to resume the current bidding is expected in a few days.

So from now onwards we will have:

- completion of line 4 until 2014 (with Vila Sonia probably by 2015)
- one additional station in line 5 (Adolfo Pinheiro, under construction, by 2013)
- East Side monorail (only two stations under construction now, Vila Prudente and Oratório, for 2012/2013, the remaining 20-plus stations will appear from 2013-2016)
- a few new CPTM stations in existing lines, several tens of new trains for CPTM, much improved CPTM services

not started yet, but close:

- line 5 extension after Adolfo Pinheiro construction to start probably this year (2011) to end by 2017
- line 6 construction might start in 2012, completion would be by 2018
- line 2 Eastern extension to Penha, might start by 2013, completion by 2019
- line 17 monorail - bidding in process, works may start this year, first stations to open by early 2014(?)
- Guarulhos City CPTM line, Sao Bernardo/Sao Caetano Light Rail/ monorail until 2015
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 01:26 PM   #1429
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 02:48 PM   #1430
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Obrigado for the info mopc!
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 10:59 PM   #1431
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even though all phase I stations have been basically ready for over a year.
No, this situation happened only with Butantã Station. The civil works were out of synchrony since the collapse of Pinheiros Station body. Butantã Station was ready before Pinheiros Station, but is dependant of some systems located at Pinheiros Station.

In the very beginning of 2010, República and Luz stations were not ready from the civil works. So don't put everything on the systems, because civil works are responsible for the most annoying delays.
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Old April 24th, 2011, 10:30 AM   #1432
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Old April 24th, 2011, 10:44 AM   #1433
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Presidente Altino station (lines 8 and 9, here line 8 platform and train) by WesleyL8

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Old April 25th, 2011, 08:43 AM   #1434
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Santo Amaro station, line 5



Capão Redondo station, line 5



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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #1435
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Elevated line 1 section between Armênia and Tietê stations, over the Tietê river. By danvinnicius.

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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:06 PM   #1436
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Sé station, the system's busiest, lines 1 and 3.



Luz station, 1901, lines 1, 7, 10, 11 and soon 4.



Consolação station access, line 2.



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Cidade Jardim station, line 9





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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:15 PM   #1437
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Pedro I station, line 3, by sunsetlover

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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #1439
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Local variety show from last week (mid April 2011) showing the situation of overcrowding in the metro nowadays. Sao Paulo's metro/CPTM is considered the most overcrowded in the world (Portuguese only)

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Tamanduateí station (lines 2, 10) focusing on the CPTM (line 10) section and yard. By rfavero.































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