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Old June 24th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #1621
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Line 3 is the most crowded in the world, this wide corridor is absolutely necessary.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 12:52 AM   #1622
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cool pics from Adolfo Pinheiro ... I'm glad it's progressing ...
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Old June 25th, 2011, 01:48 AM   #1623
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Yes and its cool how that huge water pipe will have to be "embedded" into the station structure, it'll be nice to see how that'll end up.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 07:32 AM   #1624
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Yesterday pics of the monumental line 4 Pinheiros station, by Petrini A96. Magically enlarged by lipe_andreense (thank you).










































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Old June 26th, 2011, 03:31 AM   #1625
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Line 2 Tiradentes Monorail

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This will be Vila Prudente station






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Old June 26th, 2011, 08:47 AM   #1626
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Of course there are politics and a game of interests, but through these pics from line 4 we can see why it takes so long to built ONE station here in SP. So many levels and details ...

But I don't get it, Pinheiros station for instance HAD to be huge due to the high demand that will have, but some others from the system, like the Mackenzie-Higienopolis looks like will be pretty small, as the demand won't be that high ... so the construction should be pretty simple like in some other countries ... just a 'hole' on the ground and that's it ... if you know what I mean ... I guess this is where they overpay the work...
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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:03 AM   #1627
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Line 3 elevated section near Brás station

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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:38 AM   #1628
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Faria Lima station, line 4

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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:55 AM   #1629
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Consolação station access (line 2)

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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:04 PM   #1630
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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:36 PM   #1631
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So the line 15 will be built before 6?
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Old June 27th, 2011, 12:49 AM   #1632
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What is called Line 15 in the map (officially still called a continuation of line 2 because the tender was originally intended to be just a small extension of line 2 to Oratório) is already being built but two years ago they decided to change it to a monorail line and extend it to Sao Mateus and Cidade Tiradentes in the far east of town, merging it with a planned BRT system for the region.

You can see the pictures of the first section of this monorail in this thread as "line 2 tiradentes monorail"



Everything in the map above is already under construction (except Vila Sonia station on line 4). Line 6 will start being dug in 2012/2013 so it's not there.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 12:54 AM   #1633
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This is the map for the next phase, including line 6, the real continuation of line 2 to Penha/Tiquatira (now called line 15 ) and line 17 monorail.

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Old June 27th, 2011, 12:56 AM   #1634
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And this is the dreamed "2026" horizon, have fun



The eastern extension of line 6 will actually be further north and east, see previous posts


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Old June 27th, 2011, 01:27 AM   #1635
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Of course there are politics and a game of interests, but through these pics from line 4 we can see why it takes so long to built ONE station here in SP. So many levels and details ...

But I don't get it, Pinheiros station for instance HAD to be huge due to the high demand that will have, but some others from the system, like the Mackenzie-Higienopolis looks like will be pretty small, as the demand won't be that high ... so the construction should be pretty simple like in some other countries ... just a 'hole' on the ground and that's it ... if you know what I mean ... I guess this is where they overpay the work...
If you know the history of Line 4, you will know that in 2002, there wasn't enough money to build the complete line. So the government decided to build the line in 2 phases, and make a public-private partnership to complete the budget of the line.

Higienópolis-Mackenzie will be completed in Phase II, so it is unfinished now not because it is difficult to build, but because it is part of Phase II, and will be finished in 2012 or 2013.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 01:44 AM   #1636
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Everything in the map above is already under construction (except Vila Sonia station on line 4). Line 6 will start being dug in 2012/2013 so it's not there.
Hmm, isn't everything halted on Line 5? AFAIK construction has not started yet on the extension from Largo Treze to L1.

LOL, it looks like the TAV has been pushed back yet again. 2026 now
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Old June 27th, 2011, 02:55 AM   #1637
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Hmm, isn't everything halted on Line 5? AFAIK construction has not started yet on the extension from Largo Treze to L1.
I'm not sure if actual construction has restarted already, but the investigations are over and the contractors are free to start building as soon as possible, AFAIK.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 06:08 AM   #1638
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HAHAHAHA i loved linha 19 burro quando foge!
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Old June 27th, 2011, 06:10 AM   #1639
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Hmm, isn't everything halted on Line 5? AFAIK construction has not started yet on the extension from Largo Treze to L1.

LOL, it looks like the TAV has been pushed back yet again. 2026 now
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I'm not sure if actual construction has restarted already, but the investigations are over and the contractors are free to start building as soon as possible, AFAIK.
There was a temporary halt in late 2010 due to suspected fraud (not by the government, but supposedly by the contractors who were alledged to have pre-arranged which one was going to get which section - a cartel). Eventually the Public Ministry decided there was no evidence of fraud and works were free to continue (that was a few months ago).

Since expropriations and demolitions are a part of the works, it can be said line 5 is under construction since 2010, but actual digging will start in a few months (except for Adolfo Pinheiro station, which is a separate contract and is already in an advanced state as seen in the first post of the previous page).
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Old June 27th, 2011, 06:14 AM   #1640
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HAHAHAHA i loved linha 19 burro quando foge!


I hadn't noticed (and apparently no one else) Saviano you're the greatest
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