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Old September 15th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #61
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Old October 16th, 2012, 08:15 PM   #62
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Before WW2 (Paul Zalewski Shop)


Reconstruction after WW2 (has been finished in June 2008)
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Old October 19th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #63
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^ That's crazy! It looks better now than it did before the war.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #64
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I think the current reconstruction of the old town is totally shambolic, and it is such for a number of reasons. It is sad, as historical reconstruction doesn't cost more than the so called "retroversion" and it looks much better. There are examples of a very successful historic reconstruction in Elblag, but in my mind the overall scheme seems chaotic and based on a somewhat wrong planning and esthetic concept.
Historical reconstruction is possible, and should be reinforced especially if the investment is state- backed. This is what should have happened in case of the Old Town Town Hall built according to the retroversion principles, the result of which was a tacky design of glass and brick and steel. Below a fantastic example of historic reconstruction of a state owned building from Poznan- Zamek Krolewski/ Gora Przemysla (Royal Castle. Przemysl Hill in the corner of the Old Town district), originally erected in the Middle Ages, rebuilt in the Renaissance and wiped out in February 1945:







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http://main3.amu.edu.pl/~kozk/index....=36&Itemid=34#
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Old October 19th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #65
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Nope. Castle in Poznań was destroyed mainly in 17th and 18th century, and this, what was rebuild, is rather retroversion, not reconstruction. They didn't know how exactly castle looked like, so they decided to make architectural competition, and they chosen this project.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 03:22 AM   #66
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Why reconstruct it in bricks? Surely the original wasn't, was it?

The same question goes for the Paul Zalewski Shop.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 11:25 AM   #67
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Surely the original wasn't, was it?
Actually, both were constructed of bricks.

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Old November 2nd, 2012, 12:52 AM   #68
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Why couldn't they just do the right reconstruction ? These post-modern buildings are awful.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #69
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Only 6 tenement houses (out of over 300, edit) in Elblag weren't completely destroyed during the war and were restored after 1945:





Gothic house at Sw.Ducha 13 has been recently renovated...


More: http://elblag.wm.pl/127843,Najstarsz...#axzz2H7acvGN0
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #70
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #71
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Nice renovation. But I'm still dissapointed that they won't do more reconstructions. Doesn't matter if that'll cost more, the results will be more beautiful.

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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:04 PM   #72
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As far as I know, less than 10 faithful reconstructions (plus a lot of pomo developments - link, link2, link3, link4) within historic district are planned for 2013 in Elblag mike016 might know more.

Specjal Pub (Granary Island, Autumn 2013):








More: http://www.portel.pl/artykul.php3?i=61623

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Old January 5th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #73
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The Specjal Pub looks great! Thanks for posting

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Otherwise, the buildings in the links are not to 'awesome'.....
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As far as I know, less than 10 faithful reconstructions
Specjal Pub, Querhaus, and...? What more is planned for 2013?
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Old January 6th, 2013, 01:11 AM   #76
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like Granary Island. Most of the new construction is not post-modern but rather historicist (or historic-like), pomo is a whole either design language that borrows historical motifs de-ployed over larger scale structures sometimes, hence its overall stylicstic failure. Historicist can be ok as long as vernacular silhouettes, massing, proportions, heights frontages etc are maintained. Elblag looks ok to quite nice. Will see this summer when im in Poland.

wish they would rebuild original building to left of this one:

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Old January 6th, 2013, 01:42 AM   #77
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What exactly kind of building stood next to that house?

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like Granary Island. Most of the new construction is not post-modern but rather historicist (or historic-like), pomo is a whole either design language that borrows historical motifs de-ployed over larger scale structures sometimes, hence its overall stylicstic failure. Historicist can be ok as long as vernacular silhouettes, massing, proportions, heights frontages etc are maintained.
Incorrect. The architectural style is called postmodernism or by some, retroversion. It has nothing to do with historicist style as you can see here:


I do not see any gothic, rennesaince, baroque, etc. elements.

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wish they would rebuild original building to left of this one
On the left side, there was "Shop-keepers" house (Garbary 29) which sooner or later will be reconstructed...




Btw, Low and High bridges reconstructions will be completed in 2013. Other planned faithful reconstructions include:
Bednarska 10
Bednarska 30

High Bridge (by Spox38)...

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Hopefully, Old Town in Elblag in a year ~2050

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Old Town in 70s:



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Well, at least the buildings they are going to reconstruct look really great on the pictures.....

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