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TheFly · July 19th, 2012, 10:20 AM

125m then

Adding to

Beetham 169m
CIS 118m
City 112m
Student Castle 108m

How about No 1 Spinningfields sometime this decade?

5 over 100m+ is quality

Chogmook · July 19th, 2012, 11:06 AM

Can this thread have a rename with floor count & height?!

chrisja1000 · July 19th, 2012, 11:14 AM

I'm a bit gutted to be honest.

I admit the renders are not the greatest but does this not remind you of a slimmer, slightly more modern Portland Tower?

The height is fantastic and the more the better but without sounding spoilt, can't we have just a little more creativity?

TheFly · July 19th, 2012, 11:43 AM

I like the slab style...as long as looks smooth

Slow Burn · July 19th, 2012, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisja1000

I'm a bit gutted to be honest.

It may be not be breaking new architectural boundaries but, come on, gutted is a bit over the top isn't it?

ferge · July 19th, 2012, 12:00 PM

At least it doesn't look like a Simpson in terms of cladding. I admit there's little to love about the look of it (from that early render, anyway) but as long as it has a quality facade it can't go wrong really, I mean.. it is a box

Plus a tall one at that, it will do no harm that is for sure.

chrisja1000 · July 19th, 2012, 12:09 PM

Ok gutted was a bit strong, I do still feel Manchester needs an iconic tall like the Shard or the Ghurkin to compliment The Beetham though. This will help the skyline so it's not all bad.

SkyscraperSuperman · July 19th, 2012, 12:13 PM

Great news for Manchester, another 100m+ tower to add to the list!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisja1000

Ok gutted was a bit strong, I do still feel Manchester needs an iconic tall like the Shard or the Ghurkin to compliment The Beetham though. This will help the skyline so it's not all bad.

Is the Intercontinental Tower still likely to go ahead in the future, or is that dead in the water now? That was around 200m high, wasn't it - a proper landmark tower for Manchester. Hopefully there are still plans to develop it or another tower of a similar design/height.

ferge · July 19th, 2012, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisja1000

Ok gutted was a bit strong, I do still feel Manchester needs an iconic tall like the Shard or the Ghurkin to compliment The Beetham though. This will help the skyline so it's not all bad.

I can understand that, but I always feel a city should have the 'staples' before it starts going for the iconic buildings (that is, unless you have the 1 tall that is the iconic tower), it'll do Manchester no harm to build up a skyline first before it gets some more bespoke, 'landmark' towers. Plus it is perhaps a little too far from the city centre to be a ground breaking tower, we should want a tower of such calibre to be more central (ie, Spinningfields).

poshbakerloo · July 19th, 2012, 01:16 PM

I like the design!

Caiman · July 19th, 2012, 01:16 PM

I hope something finally comes of this... it would be nice to have a bit of excitement around here again like the golden days of the Beetham construction (not to knock the incredible coverage of the metrolink expansion but that's just a bit too close to the ground for my liking!)

hifive605 · July 19th, 2012, 01:37 PM

great news, elegant, minimalist, powerful design - just what modern architecture does best.. and most important - NO RANDOM CLADDING!!!!!!!!!!

timo · July 19th, 2012, 02:26 PM

pretty bland

but i quite like it

is the general consensus that this is going to happen now?

Headancer · July 19th, 2012, 03:45 PM

Is it possible to design something other than a box which doesn't actually cost any more?

Don't get me wrong its fantastic that we will end up with 3 major skyscraper's but why can we not have something eyecatching.......

At least it reaffirms Manchester as the only place to be outside London and hopefully a lot more to come if Etihad are to be believed

js1000 · July 19th, 2012, 03:56 PM

It seems they are pretty serious about this - it's not just a unfeasible proposal which has simply been made up to give the developer or the site some cheap publicity for investment.

The design is quite safe, so I don't know how the tree hugging hippies on the MEN News can complain - they clearly know nothing about architecture.

But I've always professed to being a fan of clean-cut glass skyscrapers like the Seagram Building or CIS Tower. I just hope Simpson chooses a different type of glass so it does not clash with the Beetham. Variety is needed.

js1000 · July 19th, 2012, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyscraperSuperman

Great news for Manchester, another 100m+ tower to add to the list!

Is the Intercontinental Tower still likely to go ahead in the future, or is that dead in the water now? That was around 200m high, wasn't it - a proper landmark tower for Manchester. Hopefully there are still plans to develop it or another tower of a similar design/height.

I don't think it is dead in the water in the long term - but short term yes. Any hope of the tower moving forward were dependent on Intercontinental who do have a hotel in Manchester. But the tower was proposed at a time when hotel demand in Manchester had flatlined and the recession had hit hard. Hotel demands and city centre rents have been increasing solidly in the last year.

SkyscraperSuperman · July 19th, 2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js1000

I don't think it is dead in the water in the long term - but short term yes. Any hope of the tower moving forward were dependent on Intercontinental who do have a hotel in Manchester. But the tower was proposed at a time when hotel demand in Manchester had flatlined and the recession had hit hard. Hotel demands and city centre rents have been increasing solidly in the last year.

Ah OK, so that sounds like it could possibly be developed in the next few years if the demand for hotels continues to increase at the current rate? That's promising news, Manchester's a fantastic city and has a lot of potential, so it could definitely benefit from a tower like that - as you said, it would be great to have another landmark to define the skyline and compliment the Beetham Tower.

BushMuncher · July 19th, 2012, 05:52 PM

If the plans go ahead i will be very interested to see it rise and it will be the second tallest in Manchester
Here's the article http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...ct-ian-simpson

Lookin Up · July 19th, 2012, 07:01 PM

At 125m (=410ft) this will not make as much of an impact on the skyline as some might think.
It would be about 15m higher than student castle which is invisible on the skyline from any real distance.
This River Street site is on low ground (the clue is in the name) so from distance it won't appear much (if any) taller than Student Castle.

If it was built on higher ground around Piccadilly it would stand out loud and proud. Therefore if we want a decent skyline we should be building on higher ground not in dips and troughs.

This one will however look tall when approaching from Princess Parkway, albeit thin because it will be side-on from this perspective.

heatonparkincakes · July 19th, 2012, 07:33 PM

97 posts already and I haven't had me tea.

Well this is a welcomed surprise.

For once we can talk about erm skyscrapers than the machinations of chav soccer boys and metrolink.

Aside from the obvious, it's a relief to know that the massive sticklebrick collection Aldo known as another NAMA failed project is to be cleared.

If Señor Simpson can do the sensible thing and have a public viewing space at the top even better.

July 19th, 2012, 11:06 AM	#82
Chogmook Mancunian Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Stalybridge, Manchester Posts: 6,155 Likes (Received): 13	Can this thread have a rename with floor count & height?! __________________ Britain is Great, Manchester is Greater!

July 19th, 2012, 01:16 PM	#90
poshbakerloo *Alexxx* Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, Manchester, Sheffield, Moscow Posts: 4,649 Likes (Received): 20	I like the design! __________________ "BEFORE WE MARRY...I HAVE A SECRET!" I <3 London

July 19th, 2012, 01:16 PM	#91
Caiman I love those crazy dutch Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 10,118 Likes (Received): 127	I hope something finally comes of this... it would be nice to have a bit of excitement around here again like the golden days of the Beetham construction (not to knock the incredible coverage of the metrolink expansion but that's just a bit too close to the ground for my liking!) __________________ ~touched by his noodly appendage

July 19th, 2012, 03:45 PM	#94
Headancer Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 19 Likes (Received): 0	Simpson Tower Is it possible to design something other than a box which doesn't actually cost any more? Don't get me wrong its fantastic that we will end up with 3 major skyscraper's but why can we not have something eyecatching....... At least it reaffirms Manchester as the only place to be outside London and hopefully a lot more to come if Etihad are to be believed

July 19th, 2012, 07:33 PM	#100
heatonparkincakes Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,024 Likes (Received): 67	97 posts already and I haven't had me tea. Well this is a welcomed surprise. For once we can talk about erm skyscrapers than the machinations of chav soccer boys and metrolink. Aside from the obvious, it's a relief to know that the massive sticklebrick collection Aldo known as another NAMA failed project is to be cleared. If Señor Simpson can do the sensible thing and have a public viewing space at the top even better. __________________ 1913 Public squalor, private wealth 2013 Public squalor, private wealth Last edited by heatonparkincakes; July 19th, 2012 at 08:02 PM.

July 19th, 2012, 10:20 AM	#81
TheFly BANNED Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,279 Likes (Received): 0	125m then Adding to Beetham 169m CIS 118m City 112m Student Castle 108m How about No 1 Spinningfields sometime this decade? 5 over 100m+ is quality

July 19th, 2012, 11:14 AM	#83
chrisja1000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 35 Likes (Received): 0	I'm a bit gutted to be honest. I admit the renders are not the greatest but does this not remind you of a slimmer, slightly more modern Portland Tower? The height is fantastic and the more the better but without sounding spoilt, can't we have just a little more creativity?

July 19th, 2012, 11:43 AM	#84
TheFly BANNED Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,279 Likes (Received): 0	I like the slab style...as long as looks smooth

July 19th, 2012, 12:00 PM	#86
ferge Like 'Berg' Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wigan Posts: 5,424 Likes (Received): 85	At least it doesn't look like a Simpson in terms of cladding. I admit there's little to love about the look of it (from that early render, anyway) but as long as it has a quality facade it can't go wrong really, I mean.. it is a box Plus a tall one at that, it will do no harm that is for sure.

July 19th, 2012, 12:09 PM	#87
chrisja1000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 35 Likes (Received): 0	Ok gutted was a bit strong, I do still feel Manchester needs an iconic tall like the Shard or the Ghurkin to compliment The Beetham though. This will help the skyline so it's not all bad.

July 19th, 2012, 01:37 PM	#92
hifive605 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 367 Likes (Received): 15	great news, elegant, minimalist, powerful design - just what modern architecture does best.. and most important - NO RANDOM CLADDING!!!!!!!!!!

July 19th, 2012, 02:26 PM	#93
timo Weaste Infection Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchestoh Posts: 436 Likes (Received): 9	pretty bland but i quite like it is the general consensus that this is going to happen now?

July 19th, 2012, 03:56 PM	#95
js1000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,336 Likes (Received): 120	It seems they are pretty serious about this - it's not just a unfeasible proposal which has simply been made up to give the developer or the site some cheap publicity for investment. The design is quite safe, so I don't know how the tree hugging hippies on the MEN News can complain - they clearly know nothing about architecture. But I've always professed to being a fan of clean-cut glass skyscrapers like the Seagram Building or CIS Tower. I just hope Simpson chooses a different type of glass so it does not clash with the Beetham. Variety is needed.

July 19th, 2012, 05:52 PM	#98
BushMuncher Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 22 Likes (Received): 0	If the plans go ahead i will be very interested to see it rise and it will be the second tallest in Manchester Here's the article http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...ct-ian-simpson

July 19th, 2012, 07:01 PM	#99
Lookin Up Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 560 Likes (Received): 43	At 125m (=410ft) this will not make as much of an impact on the skyline as some might think. It would be about 15m higher than student castle which is invisible on the skyline from any real distance. This River Street site is on low ground (the clue is in the name) so from distance it won't appear much (if any) taller than Student Castle. If it was built on higher ground around Piccadilly it would stand out loud and proud. Therefore if we want a decent skyline we should be building on higher ground not in dips and troughs. This one will however look tall when approaching from Princess Parkway, albeit thin because it will be side-on from this perspective.

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