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Old July 21st, 2012, 01:36 AM   #121
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It's complete dross. Inoffensive dross, but dross nonetheless.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 10:03 AM   #122
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Back in the day, the podium would have been the main focus, now we bicker about the 130m tower element and shape.

We are desperate and this helps to take us to a skyline of some note.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 10:04 AM   #123
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It's like most of yer girl /boy friends.

It will look better in the dark and from a long way off.

Needs a viewing area on top Mr Simpson.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 10:35 AM   #124
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It is average but that view above is the highest view you will outside of London. We can hardly complain, when Leeds/Brum/Liverpool between them only have one building taller.

Bring it on, with the rest of the area being developed this could prove to be a really dense and tall cluster. Let's wind on 5 years and see if Axis, the one opposite Axis(?) and the rest of the 1st street talls come on stream. It will be an amazing gateway location to Manchester.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 04:54 PM   #125
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It's not a sloped roof, it's flat. I asked that question at the public exhibition.
If thats the case then thats one dodgy render.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 08:26 PM   #126
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and the rest of the 1st street talls come on stream.
Eh?
Please explain.
All midrise mish mash isn't it?
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Old July 21st, 2012, 09:17 PM   #127
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Eh?
Please explain.
All midrise mish mash isn't it?
There's one 20-storey building planned for First St South.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 01:34 AM   #128
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Alright so it's about time we see what this might look like on the skyline! Here's a few Sketchup mock-ups. They show height only & location, not necessarily width (or colour!)







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Old July 28th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #129
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River Street is in.

Mid-July as developers promised at the public exhibition.

No docs yet.

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100000/FO/2012/C1 | A mixed use development, involving the erection of a 42 storey building comprising up to 600no. serviced apartments; ancillary reception areas, bar/lounge, gymnasium, roof gardens, lounges/meeting areas shop (A1) restaurant (A3), cafe (A3), bar (A4), business centre/community hub (B1/D1),basement car parking and servicing, landscape, and access | Land At River Street Manchester M15

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'Roof gardens'. Might have to stay one night to get up there. Should be an amamzing view.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #130
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No 5 (100m+) is on the way.

Some news on Spinningfields would be excellent to hear. Office space is crunching down, so you never know.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #131
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No 5 (100m+) is on the way.

Some news on Spinningfields would be excellent to hear. Office space is crunching down, so you never know.
Grade A office space is. Grade B office space is now starting to be used up instead, to counterweight the Grade A shortage, so we might not run out of office space in general for a while yet.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 12:18 AM   #132
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Are there no google earth models for the co-op buildng, Chethams and the wakefield building?
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Old July 29th, 2012, 01:54 AM   #133
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Are there no google earth models for the co-op buildng, Chethams and the wakefield building?
Yes, no and yes. Both the Co-op and Wakefield have been designed by the amazing Andy Lees, who is actually a forum member here. However he designed and submitted them too early (while they were still U/C) and for that reason Google didn't accept them, so he only needs to resubmit them and they'll be accepted.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 01:52 AM   #134
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Beetham ruins everything.. A new 42 storey building for Manchester and it looks to hardly dent the skies compared to it
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Old July 30th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #135
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These new images give further insight into how Manchester’s planned 42-storey skyscraper by the man behind the Beetham Tower will look.

The M.E.N revealed that architect Ian Simpson has submitted plans for a second tower next to the Mancunian Way in Manchester city centre.

The River Street scheme, which would house up to 600 serviced apartments, would stand less than half a mile from the Beetham Tower, on Deansgate – the city’s tallest building.

Among the new pictures, Ian Simpson Architects have released a new, more dramatic image of the new 410ft block, showing how it might look at nightfall.


The as-yet unnamed landmark, which will be five floors lower than Beetham and has a similar glazed design, will provide accommodation targeted at short-stay professionals visiting the city on business.

Simpson, who also designed Urbis, Number One Deansgate and the new arts centre at First Street, is working with British firm, Chelmer Developments, who acquired the site in April 2011. If planning permission is granted, it will replace an unsightly concrete frame that has occupied the spot for the past decade and is covered in graffiti.

Ian Simpson’s Beetham Tower, which is 554ft high and contains the Hilton hotel and apartments, became Europe’s tallest residential building when it was completed in 2006.

At the time plans for the new tower were revealed, Mr Simpson told the M.E.N: "I think it’s a simple, very elegant and slender building with a glass surface so it will pick up reflections from the light and I think it will be quite dramatic. I just think it will be a really great place for people to stay and live in the short term, literally just a 12 minute walk from the centre of Deansgate.

"This is part of a collection of buildings standing together to the south of the Hilton and along the ring road. It will be quite a marker and I think it will complement the Hilton well.

"It’s also an important part of announcing First Street and the cultural quarter – it is all part of marking that as a place of change and regeneration."
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Old July 30th, 2012, 02:21 PM   #136
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From the new renders it looks quite interesting what they are planning at the bottom of the tower. It looks like a boot!

Not sure how this will be achieved structurally! That will be some cantilever at the bottom.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #137
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Found this.

Sadly no renders or drawings, but lots of technical information. http://riverstreetproject.info/plann...etESSFinal.pdf

Also.

Larger version of the MEN pictures.

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Old July 30th, 2012, 09:34 PM   #138
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How long before docs are usually up ?








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Old July 30th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #139
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Normally Wednesday or Thursday. Depends on the size of the application. This is a big one. Should be up this week as along as the planning portal isn't...... as per usual.
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Cheers Jrb - cant understand peoples beef with this - it is so much better than the unfinished frame we thought and hoped would end up being a low rise hotel rather than be left unbuilt.



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