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Old August 2nd, 2012, 10:23 PM   #421
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 10:29 PM   #422
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Great pictures Cardiff. The one with the train in the grassy field with the mountains in the distance is a classic!!

Do you know if they have hiking trails to climb to the top of any of those mountains.

This thread is more and more convincing me of the beauty of Germany.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 11:33 PM   #423
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Do you know if they have hiking trails to climb to the top of any of those mountains.
I'm pretty sure they do. I took this photo from the mountain just behind Neuschwanstein a few years ago. Didn't walk futher into to mountains myself, but lots of other people were up there walking.

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Old August 3rd, 2012, 12:41 PM   #424
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We changed trains at Augsberg on to a more rural train, and to see what i think is the real Germany.
Not really. 88% of the German population is living in urban areas. Germany is one of the countries with the highest population density in the world, real rural life is hardly existing in contemporary Germany. With a total population of 82 million, Germany has 80 cities with more than 100,000 inhabitants within city boundaries. And outside tourist shows, no one in Germany is wearing Lederhosen, especially outside Bavaria which is in many aspects much different from all other parts of Germany and perhaps its least representative part ;-)
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 03:35 PM   #425
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Not really. 88% of the German population is living in urban areas. Germany is one of the countries with the highest population density in the world, real rural life is hardly existing in contemporary Germany. With a total population of 82 million, Germany has 80 cities with more than 100,000 inhabitants within city boundaries. And outside tourist shows, no one in Germany is wearing Lederhosen, especially outside Bavaria which is in many aspects much different from all other parts of Germany and perhaps its least representative part ;-)
I think he meant "real" as in authentic or traditional? Maybe this is just a construct in English.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 11:03 PM   #426
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Not really. 88% of the German population is living in urban areas ...
The funniest comment I ever saw on SSC

Should cardiff have take some photos of the Himalayas, you probably would disagree too, since no people live on Nepal's/China's peaks there.
There is no Antarctica, as well the real image of Amazonas should also be non existent in your mind. Awfull urbanization, no skyscapers, no soccer and other our today's shit.

Man, Germany will still be there, even after all of us between Hamburg and Füssen should disappear one day

Still great pics cardiff. Thanks!
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Old August 4th, 2012, 05:41 PM   #427
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I think he meant "real" as in authentic or traditional? Maybe this is just a construct in English.
But even if it was meant that way, it is a typical tourist's point of view. No one in Germany would say that the Alps or some picturesque small towns in Bavaria are 'authentically German'. It's what visitors expect Germany to look like. And after having travelled Germany from North to South, cardiff should know better (of course, this doesn't make his photos less impressive... thank you, cardiff!).

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Should cardiff have take some photos of the Himalayas, you probably would disagree too, since no people live on Nepal's/China's peaks there.
There is no Antarctica, as well the real image of Amazonas should also be non existent in your mind. Awfull urbanization, no skyscapers, no soccer and other our today's shit.

Man, Germany will still be there, even after all of us between Hamburg and Füssen should disappear one day
I know what you mean. But even if you leave out the aspects of civilization completely, you won't find any kind of 'real Germany' in Bavaria. This makes as much sense as claiming the Rocky Mountains to be 'the real US' or the Scottish Highlands to be 'the real Great Britain'. Why should seashores and islands, or marvellous river valleys be 'less German' than the Bavarian Alps? Just because of a common stereotype that is preserved well outside Germany?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #428
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Great pictures Cardiff. The one with the train in the grassy field with the mountains in the distance is a classic!!

Do you know if they have hiking trails to climb to the top of any of those mountains.

This thread is more and more convincing me of the beauty of Germany.
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I'm pretty sure they do. I took this photo from the mountain just behind Neuschwanstein a few years ago. Didn't walk futher into to mountains myself, but lots of other people were up there walking.
Yes there are definately walking trails, a precarious cable car took you up there!

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Not really. 88% of the German population is living in urban areas. Germany is one of the countries with the highest population density in the world, real rural life is hardly existing in contemporary Germany. With a total population of 82 million, Germany has 80 cities with more than 100,000 inhabitants within city boundaries. And outside tourist shows, no one in Germany is wearing Lederhosen, especially outside Bavaria which is in many aspects much different from all other parts of Germany and perhaps its least representative part ;-)
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The funniest comment I ever saw on SSC

Should cardiff have take some photos of the Himalayas, you probably would disagree too, since no people live on Nepal's/China's peaks there.
There is no Antarctica, as well the real image of Amazonas should also be non existent in your mind. Awfull urbanization, no skyscapers, no soccer and other our today's shit.

Man, Germany will still be there, even after all of us between Hamburg and Füssen should disappear one day

Still great pics cardiff. Thanks!

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But even if it was meant that way, it is a typical tourist's point of view. No one in Germany would say that the Alps or some picturesque small towns in Bavaria are 'authentically German'. It's what visitors expect Germany to look like. And after having travelled Germany from North to South, cardiff should know better (of course, this doesn't make his photos less impressive... thank you, cardiff!).
I meant authentic as in away from cities which are often international, and in a country that has had an unprecidented external influence for the last 60 years it was good to see something more origional and identifiably German. Up until my journey to Fussen i could have been in any country in Europe, often going days without hearing any German or even having to think i was in Germany (probably why nunberg was a bit of a shock as it was more German orientated, if that makes sense). Also I find the countryside of any country really holds its true nature, as its had less interaction with the rest of the world generally (though less so these days). Having travelled north to south i can definately say Germany is similar to the UK in that each region has a distinct identity and is in no way has one homoginised union. Having travelled to Frankfurt and Heidelburg a few years ago i got a similar impression of when you leave the large cities, things become more German.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #430
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Old August 4th, 2012, 09:36 PM   #432
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oh damn, unfortunatelly neuschwanstein castle was hidden under that scaffolding...usually the view to the castle is just great but right now it´s under massive renovation (oh and don´t forget, it was never finished!). i hope it wasn´t another disappointment (like nuremberg was).
BTW. i was born in the very south-western part of germany, near lake constance, swiss and french border were just around the corner AND the first time i visited north germany (the island of pellworm) it was like a cultural shock, the north germans, the frisians even didn´t understand my south german accent...the villages, the language, the food, everything was completely different...so, yes, germany is not just bavaria...btw...i saw some easy-jet advertising in london (a few years ago) just saying the same (yes they showed a fat man in leathertrousers with a beer in his hands)...anyway....the country is different, from north to south, from west to east...and i like that...keep on with that great pictures mister

oh and...as an south-west-german (swabian) i live in berlin for nearly 10 years now, and i love it...and hell, that city is so absolutely NOT german
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Old August 4th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #433
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Is this the last station of the journey ?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #434
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nope...i guess munich will be the last station...nice city but next time you should visit lake constance and black forest
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I'm pretty sure they do. I took this photo from the mountain just behind Neuschwanstein a few years ago.
You can climb all of those mountains on trails, but for some you'll need proper equipment, training and some mountaineering experience (e.g. for the Säuling, the big mountain right behind Neuschwanstein). So most of the tourists better stay in the valley or take the cablecar up Tegelberg. If you're untrained and unexperienced, the walk from Tegelberg down to Neuschwanstein or from Neuschwanstein to Bleckenau are good choices.

Füssen is a nice town, small and charming. The castle, the area around the river Lech and the lakes (there are 5 or 6 lakes within the citys borders) are very beautiful. Of course you were there quite early in the year, so going swimming wasn't an inviting option yet.
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Old August 5th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #436
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oh damn, unfortunatelly neuschwanstein castle was hidden under that scaffolding...usually the view to the castle is just great but right now it´s under massive renovation (oh and don´t forget, it was never finished!). i hope it wasn´t another disappointment (like nuremberg was).
BTW. i was born in the very south-western part of germany, near lake constance, swiss and french border were just around the corner AND the first time i visited north germany (the island of pellworm) it was like a cultural shock, the north germans, the frisians even didn´t understand my south german accent...the villages, the language, the food, everything was completely different...so, yes, germany is not just bavaria...btw...i saw some easy-jet advertising in london (a few years ago) just saying the same (yes they showed a fat man in leathertrousers with a beer in his hands)...anyway....the country is different, from north to south, from west to east...and i like that...keep on with that great pictures mister

oh and...as an south-west-german (swabian) i live in berlin for nearly 10 years now, and i love it...and hell, that city is so absolutely NOT german
Luckily only a small section of the castle was under scafolding. Thanks for the interesting info! I found the same when i first moved to England from Wales, i almost felt exotic lol

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nope...i guess munich will be the last station...nice city but next time you should visit lake constance and black forest
Yep munich is the last stop

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You can climb all of those mountains on trails, but for some you'll need proper equipment, training and some mountaineering experience (e.g. for the Säuling, the big mountain right behind Neuschwanstein). So most of the tourists better stay in the valley or take the cablecar up Tegelberg. If you're untrained and unexperienced, the walk from Tegelberg down to Neuschwanstein or from Neuschwanstein to Bleckenau are good choices.

Füssen is a nice town, small and charming. The castle, the area around the river Lech and the lakes (there are 5 or 6 lakes within the citys borders) are very beautiful. Of course you were there quite early in the year, so going swimming wasn't an inviting option yet.
yes the water was definately too cold!
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