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Old August 11th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #461
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fantastic pictures of the castle but I liked your pictures of the lakes and mountains more I visited some years ago when it was totally covered in scaffolding so I climbed the mountain trails on the other side of the bridge which was awesome. If you walk high enough you eventually get a nice view looking down on the castle and it does look best from a distance.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #462
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The castle surrounded by mountains, forests and lakes... Like in fairy tale!
..falta el principe azul y la princesa encantada que lindo!
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Old August 12th, 2012, 02:35 AM   #463
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I totally understand the point of "AnOldBlackMarble" and I think that especially the Italians are doing a way better job by authentic restaurations than the Germans use to do!
Your statement is the most ridiculous on this by far.
What they do is even an AUTHENTIC RESTAURATION.
What should they do? Make it 500 years older, for Japanese tourists, or what ?

I don't think we like this object very much, since we have round 13 thousands other castles, palaces & ruins.
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Old August 12th, 2012, 09:00 PM   #464
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Old August 13th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #465
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The point is Neuschwanstein is not some kind of medieval castle ruin that should be left alone. Its a modern dream palace of a maniac aristocrat. When it was built there was already electric light and railroads. Its a modern building of the industrial age.

And yes, when it was built it was completely out of its time. Some kind of 19th century kitsch Disney style castle.
Exactly. This building in its days was the most modern building in the whole kingdom, although it doesn't look like that. It used state-of-the-art techniques (e.g. a cast iron structure for the throne hall) and had the most advanced technology (the first phone line in Bavaria, an electric system to call servants, automatic toilets, an automatic oven, central heating, etc.).
The whole thing basicaly is a coulisse, not a castle. So an authentic renovation has to look a bit like Disney castle.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 12:01 AM   #466
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Old August 18th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #467
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Wow, I've been on that bridge when there were so many people, you could not make your way to the other side.
Cool! It was scary enough with a couple of people on it!

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Totally awesome, this thread! If you're planning to visit Germany once again, don't miss the Mosel Valley or the Black Forest
Thanks, sure will!

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Hmmm, don't like it. It's too clean. It looks plastic. Where's the weathering, the age, the old world rusticness? I think the Germans are going a little overboard with the renovating. A little age, a few rough edges, weather spots, give a castle its character, otherwise it is just another plastic Disney attraction.
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As a matter of fact the castle itself is not so old as you imagine, it was built in the 15-16 century CMIIW. A little bit of renovation makes it look wholo new
And disney's sleeping beauty castle is modelled after this castle too

@ Cardiff : I really enjoy your thread, great photos

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I totally understand the point of "AnOldBlackMarble" and I think that especially the Italians are doing a way better job by authentic restaurations than the Germans use to do!

Anyway Neuschwanstein will always be a bit of a Disneyland castle...
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The point is Neuschwanstein is not some kind of medieval castle ruin that should be left alone. Its a modern dream palace of a maniac aristocrat. When it was built there was already electric light and railroads. Its a modern building of the industrial age.

And yes, when it was built it was completely out of its time. Some kind of 19th century kitsch Disney style castle.
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Exactly. This building in its days was the most modern building in the whole kingdom, although it doesn't look like that. It used state-of-the-art techniques (e.g. a cast iron structure for the throne hall) and had the most advanced technology (the first phone line in Bavaria, an electric system to call servants, automatic toilets, an automatic oven, central heating, etc.).
The whole thing basicaly is a coulisse, not a castle. So an authentic renovation has to look a bit like Disney castle.
Think youve all answered yourselves. IMO its not Disney but a product of its time, there are many fantasy castle around northern europe, especially in the UK that have either been extended in to fabulous homes or completely transformed during the industrial revolution, especially as Neo Gothic was such a popular style during that period. As for renovation being better in different countries it is totaly subjective as from what ive seen in Italy its about the externality only, scratch a little deeper and you have modern materials and modern building techniques, in the UK it more about everything being authentic, even materials etc, but then there is more modern designs attached to old structures as long as they are distinctly different. Not sure what the stance is in Germany? Not saying one is better than the other, but each has its own positives and negatives, as is each individual renovation.

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The castle surrounded by mountains, forests and lakes... Like in fairy tale!
It really is, and probably where the ideal fairy tales comes from

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fantastic pictures of the castle but I liked your pictures of the lakes and mountains more I visited some years ago when it was totally covered in scaffolding so I climbed the mountain trails on the other side of the bridge which was awesome. If you walk high enough you eventually get a nice view looking down on the castle and it does look best from a distance.
Thanks, the countryside is what takes your breath away more, really beautiful!

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Definately beautiful, but one of hundreds of beautiful countries in the world!
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Old August 18th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #468
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Next we arrived in Munich, it was very obvious that this was a large city with a distinct attitude from the start. We stayed near the train station, next to a lap dancing club! I think from now on i will not stay anywhere near train stations again, as although the hotel wasnt awful, it wasnt that great with a receptionist desperately trying to get us to upgrade (which we did but later complained about many things and got the upgrade free). First impressions of Munich were that it was gritty and very busy, eventually after exploring more i saw the other side which was very beautiful in places and quite relaxed. What struck me most about Munich was how American it was, almost every other accent was American, the feel was very north american, and even the fashion had that very pretentious new york 5th avenue feel. It was definately very different to the rest of Germany i had seen, and felt far more confident and assertive. The weather wasnt too great on the first day, but soon became scorching!

One thing i noticed alot in Munich was how alot of the buildings didnt seem to feel either old or modern, but somewhere in between.

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Old August 18th, 2012, 11:42 PM   #470
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While walking back to my hotel there was a homless man in his boxers and a t shirt in this fountain doing stretches, lets just say the combination of water and white thin clothing left nothing to the imagination, much to everyones hilarity and disust! I'm sure he must have known what he was doing!

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Old August 18th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #471
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Old August 19th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #472
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splendid photos from Germany...
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Old August 19th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #473
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Main shopping street seemed to have a couiple of carbuncles, luckily there seemed to be some new construction replacing them. interestingly these new construction sites showed the history of what was on the site, something i found fascinating and brought other people to see what was happening. Also i remember when C&A used to be in the UK!

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Old August 19th, 2012, 07:54 PM   #474
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This white building especially seemed quite kitsch in its reconstruction, looked too perfect to be historic

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At this point after climbing so many steps to high observation points, we said that this would be the last!

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Old August 19th, 2012, 07:58 PM   #476
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Great view, I guess it was worth the stairs?
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Old August 19th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #477
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Great photos!
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Old August 19th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #478
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I'm surprised to hear that you think that Munich is North American in style. I really disagree on this point, though I agree that it is very, very different to the rest of Germany.

Excellent photos all the same. I've enjoyed this whole journey.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 09:53 PM   #479
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In Germany we say "MŘnchen: das gr÷▀te Dorf der Welt" (Munich: the largest village in the world)
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Old August 19th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #480
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