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Old July 10th, 2014, 11:48 PM   #201
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I think there's nothing wrong about a concrete facade. 432 Park and even 30 Park do have both great facades. If the concrete looks like limestone, it is alright in my book
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Old July 11th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #202
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I think there's nothing wrong about a concrete facade. 432 Park and even 30 Park do have both great facades. If the concrete looks like limestone, it is alright in my book
Oh lt doesnt bother me either. 30 Park looks great to me l just didn't know that it wasn't Limestone.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #203
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It doesn't bother me, either, but I didn't spend millions on an apartment and got a cheaper cladding than I was promised.

Being that the tower this thread is about is not for the super-rich, tenants are less likely to be offended if the cladding is made from the finest materials money can buy, but I nonetheless doubt it will look cheap as the person who started this 30 Park Place side-discussion has proposed. It's a supertall in a prime location in a prime city. Unless they hire Vinoly in a drunken stupor, they're going to deliver something pleasant to look at.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 04:04 AM   #204
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I think there's nothing wrong about a concrete facade. 432 Park and even 30 Park do have both great facades. If the concrete looks like limestone, it is alright in my book
But it doesn't look like limestone. If the shift from limestone to concrete wasn't noticeable, then why did half of SSC pick up on the change the second they started placing the concrete panels? The two are not the same and there's definitely something dishonest about Silverstein advertising a limestone facade for a luxury building only to greet his tenants with 'look-alike second-class materials'.

Whatever Silverstein puts here, I'm not optimistic it will be as good in the end as the billing.
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But it doesn't look like limestone. If the shift from limestone to concrete wasn't noticeable, then why did half of SSC pick up on the change the second they started placing the concrete panels? The two are not the same and there's definitely something dishonest about Silverstein advertising a limestone facade for a luxury building only to greet his tenants with 'look-alike second-class materials'.

Whatever Silverstein puts here, I'm not optimistic it will be as good in the end as the billing.
lf there's one thing that Silverstein does well imo is quality glass which l suspect this will end up having.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 01:36 PM   #206
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Haha Kanto has such a bizarre taste for architecture. But he is different and I like that
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Old July 18th, 2014, 01:08 AM   #207
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I'm going to miss seeing the New Yorker sign from the skyline. I love those old giant neon signs.
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106 floors, not 100.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 06:05 PM   #210
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I'm sorry if this question seems ignorant, but are they really just going to leave the design as a box?

I understand that 432 Park Avenue is a box, but it has so much more detail to it. It was thin, had a unique facade, and was a series of boxes separated by mechanical floors.

This is just glass. But it looks okay, and the glass looks nice. Is it really going to be just like this?

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Unfortunately I believe they're going to ruin it with an "iconic" design.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #212
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I think an iconic design would be good. I hope they keep the unique cladding, though.
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Every time in the last decade or so developers went for an "iconic" design it ended up some modern art crap for people who discuss Cubism over expensive coffee while reciting Yoko Ono's poetry and listening to Velvet Underground.
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So artists?
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Old July 19th, 2014, 06:56 PM   #215
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Only in their imaginations.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 07:36 PM   #216
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That's just a massing model, not a proper, representative render, although the diagram suggests boxy too. I don't think we'll see anything too crazy, and that's probably a good thing.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 10:38 PM   #217
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Why it is so difficult to correct the title to 106 floors ?
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Old July 20th, 2014, 02:24 PM   #218
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That's just a massing model, not a proper, representative render, although the diagram suggests boxy too. I don't think we'll see anything too crazy, and that's probably a good thing.
The best boxes are very simple and plain, like the Trump world tower.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #219
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Every time in the last decade or so developers went for an "iconic" design it ended up some modern art crap for people who discuss Cubism over expensive coffee while reciting Yoko Ono's poetry and listening to Velvet Underground.
which iconic new york projects do you mean?
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Old July 25th, 2014, 04:39 PM   #220
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I'm excited that a residential supertall that's not catered to billionaires is finally being built. if droneriot had his way NYC would be full of commie blocks
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