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Old September 11th, 2015, 03:14 PM   #281
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For what I'm seeing in the supertalls section, NYC is booming louder than Dubai! Great news, I just wonder how are they fitting all these new towers? Will we be seeing demolitions of 50+storey towers in the next 10 years? Hehe, classic Simcity 2000!
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Old October 8th, 2015, 06:15 AM   #282
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The lot is huge, it could easily fit 3 supertalls. I know the zoning will not allow for more but this is waste of space.

















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Old October 9th, 2015, 10:57 PM   #283
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looks like they need another 2 months to start building. good job!
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Old October 10th, 2015, 09:32 PM   #284
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I walked by Yesterday and it looked like they were piling at the 41st street side.
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Old October 11th, 2015, 12:14 PM   #285
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Old October 11th, 2015, 02:42 PM   #286
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definitely. There is a lot to be removed.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 04:48 AM   #287
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The lot is huge, it could easily fit 3 supertalls. I know the zoning will not allow for more but this is waste of space.
To be fair, the amount of people living in this building will be incredible, considering the floor count and the fact that these are smaller, residential units.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 07:01 AM   #288
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To be fair, the amount of people living in this building will be incredible, considering the floor count and the fact that these are smaller, residential units.
It's like an archology from the old sim city game, but prettier
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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:20 PM   #289
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The lot is huge, it could easily fit 3 supertalls. I know the zoning will not allow for more but this is waste of space.

How on Earth a 106-story building with 1400 apartments and a huge retail podium can be a waste of space? There are very few buildings in the whole world with such a big scale.

According to the census there are 867609 housing units in New York County (Manhattan) so with just 620 of this buildings you can house the entire population of the island. You can fit them just by tearing down the entire upper west and east sides (between Central Park South and North and Amsterdam Avenue and 5th ave for the UES and Riverside Dr and Central Park West, keeping Lincoln Center and the Museum of Natural History for the UWS) And then putting up 700 hundred of buildings like this there.

Then you can keep Midtown, Downtown and Columbia University so the people can work and go to college, move all the people of Manhattan to the UES and UWS, razing and leaving as open space all the rest of Manhattan (and Roosevelt Island too)
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When this skyscraper will be T/O ?
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Old October 13th, 2015, 04:18 AM   #291
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What is the U/C building on the right?
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Old October 13th, 2015, 04:28 AM   #292
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Thats 551 10th Avenue. Tower by Extell.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 03:58 AM   #293
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How on Earth a 106-story building with 1400 apartments and a huge retail podium can be a waste of space? There are very few buildings in the whole world with such a big scale.
Skyscrapers do not waste space, they crate one. If you read my post, I was referring to the lot not the building. The lot is huge and if could easily accommodate another two supertalls which would most likely be the case if it was situated in central midtown or uptown. Manhattan's west side, south of 42nd street is either old warehouses, mechanic shops or stables which will soon give way to entirely new neighborhood. Zoning lows should allow for much higher density that what it is now.

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Old October 16th, 2015, 04:09 PM   #294
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Skyscrapers do not waste space, they crate one. If you read my post, I was referring to the lot not the building. The lot is huge and if could easily accommodate another two supertalls which would most likely be the case if it was situated in central midtown or uptown. Manhattan's west side, south of 42nd street is either old warehouses, mechanic shops or stables which will soon give way to entirely new neighborhood. Zoning lows should allow for much higher density that what it is now.
Yes, i understood what are you referring too. What I said is that of course, the lot is huge, but so it is this development. They are planing to build a 100-story building (would be the building with highest floor-count of NYC) with 1400 apartments, plus a huge commercial podium that would include 300000 sq feet of retail and commercial space plus almost 200 corporate residences.All of that totalling almost 1,7 million sq ft. Not a small achievement at all.

To compare, it is about the same size as the Vanderbilt Tower, build thanks to a lot of building bonuses. Yes, the lot of that tower is about only half the size of this one, that makes about double the density. But that tower is situated in one of the most prime locations of Manhattan, just across the street from Grand Central and with many subway services available just at the bottom of the tower. This one is a few blocks away from the nearest subway station, so I think the density is just right. After all, they are using an overall FAR of 20, with the residential portion alone using a 12 FAR, so pretty high density.

If the entire neighborhood is to be redeveloped with complexes as this one, the population and density of it would be huge, much, much higher of what upper east or west sides currently have.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 05:36 AM   #295
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Seems like this might not be happening.

World Trade Center developer drops plans to build massive residential tower on West Side
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[B]The developer of the World Trade Center has backed away from plans to build the city’s tallest residential tower on Manhattan’s West Side, Crains reported Sunday.

Silverstein Properties was going to build a sky-scraper-like tower with more than 1,400 units — but changed its mind because of a dispute over how many to set aside for affordable housing, Crains said.

“With everything we have going on at the World Trade Center and elsewhere, this just isn’t the right time for us to develop this project,” a Silverstein spokesman said in a statement to Crains.

Silverstein Properties, best known for developing the World Trade Center, plans to sell the property, the magazine reported.


It bought the site — a former Mercedes dealership — for $100 million.

A City Hall spokesman told Crains that the de Blasio administration’s affordable housing requirements might have played a role in the developer’s decision.

Silverstein's ambitious plan called for the tallest residential building in the city with a soaring 1,100-foot spire also included 300,000 feet of commercial real estate space.

But his company wanted most of the 1,400 units to be for luxury housing — and the city wanted more to be available at under market rates, Crains said.

“This project would be held to the same mandatory affordable-housing requirement as every city-backed or private rezoning,” the City Hall spokesman said in a statement.



Located at 514 11th Ave., the site stretched an entire city block.

It's right in the middle of the Hudson Yards commercial neighborhood that’s undergoing rapid transformation.

The commercial zoning required at least 1.2 million square feet of the tower be office space, Crains said.

Silverstein wanted permission from the city to convert most of that footage into residential units, the magazine said

The developer hoped its proximity to nearby Hell's Kitchen, a residential zone, would allow him to build apartments instead of offices.

Silverstein did just finish building two huge residential units few blocks away. Silver Towers hold 1,300 apartments.

As part of that deal, Silverstein agreed to set aside 375,000 square feet for affordable units.

City Hall said it wasn't 100% clear that Silverstein decided to drop his Hudson Yards project just because of the affordable housing negotiations.

“This is a very complex project, and it's not clear that affordable housing is actually the sticking point,” the city told Crains.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 05:24 PM   #296
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something will be built here. Maybe this can make a comeback?!

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Old October 19th, 2015, 05:32 PM   #297
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I am sure something will be build here quickly, these plots are the only plots in Manhattan which have an unlimited FAR , something developers crave for.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #298
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Man, that's too bad, although to be honest, not entirely expected. I'm sure the site will be snapped up quickly, but I wouldn't expect a supertall here. The supertall residentials that have gotten off the ground have without exception been of the ultra-luxury variety, and this simply isn't an ultra-luxury location. Unfortunately, since Silverstein was the first to try to break the mold with a "middle class" residential supertall, his throwing in the towel will probably discourage other developers from trying the same.

Still, this site has tons of potential for one, or even a couple towers that, if not actually supertalls, can still stand out. Anything taller than its neighbors to the immediate North would be nice. I love the possibility of that archway design making a comeback -- it would be a great fit on an increasingly experimental waterfront (W57, the bronze SHoP towers, Mercedes House) -- although that possibility seems slim.

Or maybe we could even get a -- gasp -- office building!
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Old October 19th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #299
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This plot is huge and has a lot of FAR. Maybe we can see a megatower rise here.

I see lot's of potential here.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 06:51 PM   #300
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I am not really sad that this tower won´t happen, i am rather happy to see such a soulless box of a design gone and make place for something which COULD be dramatic.
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