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Old January 3rd, 2016, 09:02 PM   #2101
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Old January 3rd, 2016, 09:03 PM   #2102
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There are 4 buildings there ?
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The Woolworth Building cost 13.5 million dollars to build. I calculated this with the value of a 1913 Dollar to the value of a 2015 Dollar. The cost of the Woolworth in today's dollars would actually amount to $323,640,000. Nowhere near 5 billion dollars...

I have no idea where you came up with this estimate of 5 billion but it is grossly wrong.
Think it was a documentary, so architects did the calculations not economists for sure they exaggerate estimation, but also using Consumer Price Index to calculate stuff like capital investment projects or very old skyscrapers is not reliable.

If you would try to create an exact replica of Woolworth today, using the same materials, and having the same lavish exterior and interior decorations, you can be sure "only" 323mill is not enough....

If you look at price of buildings in NY, 323mill would probably be enough for a 240m box, with unnoticeable cladding and simple interior decorations. I think a building similar to Woolworth would cost more than a billion today.

Hell... if Goldman Sachs headquarters cost more than 2 billion, 5 billion is not even that phantasmagorical.

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Old January 4th, 2016, 02:21 AM   #2103
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yes, but everyone knows that the Goldman Sachs NY HQ was built with a miniature nuclear reactor in its basement.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 02:23 AM   #2104
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Old January 5th, 2016, 06:09 AM   #2105
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Old January 5th, 2016, 11:35 PM   #2106
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Those walls haven't seen light since 1922.
But why does that building (Liggett Building ) have windows there? It was built 11 years after the now gone Charles Building that stood on this corner.
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Old January 9th, 2016, 07:23 PM   #2107
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Old January 10th, 2016, 12:41 AM   #2108
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when will the demolition of these buildings be complete? anyone know specifically when?
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Old January 10th, 2016, 08:07 AM   #2109
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Those walls haven't seen light since 1922.
But why does that building (Liggett Building ) have windows there? It was built 11 years after the now gone Charles Building that stood on this corner.
The demolished building may have had an inset there (air shaft) to allow for windows.

If you look to the left of those windows you can see what looks like the outline of where there were windows on the demolished building which were then covered up.
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Old January 10th, 2016, 06:03 PM   #2110
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The demolished building may have had an inset there (air shaft) to allow for windows.

If you look to the left of those windows you can see what looks like the outline of where there were windows on the demolished building which were then covered up.
Well spotted, looks like there was some airshaftway behind.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 12:27 AM   #2111
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The Woolworth Building cost 13.5 million dollars to build. I calculated this with the value of a 1913 Dollar to the value of a 2015 Dollar. The cost of the Woolworth in today's dollars would actually amount to $323,640,000. Nowhere near 5 billion dollars...

I have no idea where you came up with this estimate of 5 billion but it is grossly wrong.
I think for one, labor is relatively a much greater expense today than back then.

On a different note, has anyone noticed how much this looks like this Bank of America Tower? The overall design seems a bit unimaginative in my opinion.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 05:44 AM   #2112
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So is this the only new building after 1 WTC to have a observation deck? Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 05:50 AM   #2113
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Old January 19th, 2016, 06:09 AM   #2114
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Old February 20th, 2016, 06:31 AM   #2115
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any progress of this building?
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Old February 20th, 2016, 07:23 AM   #2116
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any progress of this building?
The current buildings on the site are in the process of being demolished. Construction will probably start later this year or early next year.
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Old February 23rd, 2016, 11:10 PM   #2117
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A zoning doc has been uploaded to NYC Buildings...here's the (kinda blurry) diagram from page 3...:

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Old March 9th, 2016, 08:25 PM   #2118
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The construction price tags on building sin New York amaze me, just like the WTC transportation hub, very nice build however is it really worth 4,000,000,000. I don't think so, Grand Central only cost 1.9 Billion dollars in 2016 adjusted currency.
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Old March 9th, 2016, 08:35 PM   #2119
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Clearly someone who stands to make hundreds of millions of dollars off this project thinks it's worth it.
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Old March 9th, 2016, 08:42 PM   #2120
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Once again,4 billions is not the price of the sole hub.
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