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Old December 16th, 2017, 11:34 PM   #2761
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This rendering defies the laws of physics. If the Chrysler Building is to the left of the viewer's point of view, its reflection should be half way to the left... close to the edge of the building.
That's what I thought, too. I guess the opportunity to put a gargoyle and a full reflection in the shot was just too tempting.
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Old December 17th, 2017, 01:03 PM   #2762
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Always the same question where is the concrete ??
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Old December 17th, 2017, 10:10 PM   #2763
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Always the same question where is the concrete ??
Sure, and I'll ask the same question I've asked before: this building has a concrete core?
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Old December 18th, 2017, 07:04 PM   #2764
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Few moments ago.

A lot of people snapping pictures of the site and looking at the rendering.















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Old December 18th, 2017, 07:08 PM   #2765
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It has more or less reached the height of the base structure, now the tower portion can start soon. I guess it is around 32m tall right now.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 12:34 AM   #2766
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Sure, and I'll ask the same question I've asked before: this building has a concrete core?
It does, but it is steel first, meaning some of the steel beams and columns will be encased in the concrete walls. So the steel gets erected first.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 01:45 AM   #2767
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It does, but it is steel first, meaning some of the steel beams and columns will be encased in the concrete walls. So the steel gets erected first.
But encasing already-erected columns in concrete is not the same as having a poured structural concrete core.

Can you point me to the plans or structural details that explain this concrete encasement aspect?
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Old December 24th, 2017, 06:42 AM   #2768
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I find this building design extremely pedestrian, in fact quite ugly. Who designed this: an undergrad architecture student short of time for his final project? It takes a spacial "talent" to make such a tall building look so bulky and squat! Could have learned a few points from the elegant and functional Chrysler next door....
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Old December 24th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #2769
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I find this building design extremely pedestrian, in fact quite ugly. Who designed this: an undergrad architecture student short of time for his final project? It takes a spacial "talent" to make such a tall building look so bulky and squat! Could have learned a few points from the elegant and functional Chrysler next door....
You seem to be alone in that regard.
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Old December 24th, 2017, 10:22 PM   #2770
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You seem to be alone in that regard.
Not necessarily. While I wouldn't agree with his hyperbole, the sentiment is correct.

It's a tepid, uninspiring design, especially considering the location and the building's size. It's not even ugly, it's boring, which might be the greater sin.
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Old December 24th, 2017, 10:39 PM   #2771
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The size will be part of the charm. The design is solid, one step above boring, but once built it will impress with its massiveness as well. It was the same for 30 HY for me, I didn't feel the design was super exciting, but at the size it comes, it's quite impressive.
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Old December 24th, 2017, 11:30 PM   #2772
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I think it’s more of a 3/4 fantastic, 1/4 amateurish mess situation. The problem is, the messy 1/4 (the crown) will be among the most prominent peaks in NYC, which detracts from my overall excitement for the project.
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Old December 25th, 2017, 07:48 AM   #2773
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The height cut didn’t help the crown situation and squatness.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #2774
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This building is groundbreaking in that it shows how to add an Art Deco style step back crown to a glass tower. I hope to see this improved upon and added to many more cities with flat roofs, namely Boston.
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Old December 28th, 2017, 11:37 PM   #2775
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Concrete pouring should start soon.
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Old December 29th, 2017, 02:03 AM   #2776
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Manhattan, Looking South from Top of the Rock by Jared, on Flickr

Can you see one of the Vanderbilt Cranes in this shot?
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Old December 29th, 2017, 04:34 AM   #2777
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Manhattan, Looking South from Top of the Rock by Jared, on Flickr

Can you see one of the Vanderbilt Cranes in this shot?
Yep, to the right of the lower black building just to the right of MetLife in the photo!
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Old December 29th, 2017, 05:57 PM   #2778
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Old January 4th, 2018, 07:32 AM   #2779
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1 Vanderbilt by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr



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Old January 4th, 2018, 08:53 AM   #2780
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Nice, we can clearly see what ahs been build at this point. I guess the next 2 months might feel relativly slow, until the whole steel works at the base are done, then it should shoot up quickly. This tower should be at around 210m by the end of the year. I wonder how dwarfed the Chrysler will look upon this towers comnpletion.
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