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Old May 6th, 2013, 08:56 AM   #461
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It's just sad to lose the view of more significant and beautiful buildings in the surrounding area. this will block out how open it still seems to feel at that intersection. with only the Lincoln tower really soaring above.
its amazing coming on the highway around grand central going south. There's such a beautiful open feel with plenty of light and free space. truly a rarity in modern New York.
Grand central has had enough crap built around it. it deserves old neighbors imo
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Old May 6th, 2013, 09:44 AM   #462
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If the Grand Hyatt and Roosevelt Hotels end up being demolished, I hope that, along with any new skyscrapers, one or two new large hotels can come up within the district.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 02:28 PM   #463
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What is with these buildings and upper lattice work? One of the earlier designs for WTC 1 had all sorts of lattice work built into it's upper portion as well.
I don't like it neither. I call it a fake building
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Old May 6th, 2013, 04:51 PM   #464
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agreed that render for 1 vanderbilt = cheat

A building bearing the Vanderbilt name deserves to be iconic & supertall.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #465
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please the most famous Vanderbilt today is Anderson Cooper. There's nothing in a name. But I do agree that the top is cheap.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 11:23 PM   #466
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Lol! Oh man, you had to remind me?? Ok, the mention of Anderson Cooper cheapened the name a little bit for me.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:05 AM   #467
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If the Grand Hyatt and Roosevelt Hotels end up being demolished, I hope that, along with any new skyscrapers, one or two new large hotels can come up within the district.
I really hope the Roosevelt doesn't go anywhere. such a gorgeous place
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Old May 7th, 2013, 05:08 AM   #468
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agreed that render for 1 vanderbilt = cheat

A building bearing the Vanderbilt name deserves to be iconic & supertall.
I agree completely. If they came up with a design that is even half decent from what they have released, I wouldn't mind as much. Make it a supertall that pays homage to what that area of manhattan represents. Architecturally too. it would be nice to see something brick and steel, not glass.
ESPECIALLY to carry the Vanderbilt name. That's a hell of an empire to live up to.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 07:02 AM   #469
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Why use brick and steel? This area could use some different types of architecture. There arent many primarily glass facades in this area so an all glass facade would actually be a good idea at this location.
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330 Madison, and it's 555 feet tall.
Thanks. So this tower would be under 600 ft?
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Old May 7th, 2013, 01:06 PM   #471
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Thanks. So this tower would be under 600 ft?
What are you talking about, why that so?
Don't you see this tower tower is dominating the Sperry & Hutchinson Building ( 330 Madison Avenue )
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Old May 7th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #472
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Thanks. So this tower would be under 600 ft?
I Vandy is more than twice the height of 330 Madison, so it's clearly over 330m.
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Old May 17th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #473
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Councilman urges faster midtown rezoning

City Councilman Dan Garodnick, who represents midtown east, is questioning a sunrise provision that would delay the start of the midtown east rezoning until 2017.

By Matt Chaban May 16, 2013 1:57 p.m.

City Councilman Dan Garodnick is casting a shadow over a sunrise provision in the Bloomberg administration's east midtown rezoning plan that would prevent the rezoning from taking effect until July 2017.

Mr. Garodnick, who will have the final say on the rezoning this fall, is calling for the elimination of the provision. He argues that with only two towers slated to go up immediately after the rezoning of the 73-block area, there is no reason to delay it. The rezoning, which is going through the public approval process, would allow for the construction of new office buildings in the area bounded by Fifth and Third avenues, between East 39th and East 57th streets.

"I asked the Independent Budget Office, the city budget director, the real estate board, and none of them could give me a clear answer on how slowing down the rezoning for a few years would help or hurt" development elsewhere in the city, Mr. Garodnick said.

The sunrise provision was introduced by the city Department of City Planning to prevent unwanted competition for other mega-projects, most notably Hudson Yards and the World Trade Center, that the city and state have already helped finance. The concern is that allowing new class A office towers to rise in midtown would undercut the leasing of these other projects.

After all, things are not exactly going well at the World Trade Center, and while The Related Cos. and Brookfield Properties Inc. have had better luck finding tenants on the far West Side, there are still millions of square feet of space to fill.

The two new projects most anticipated to be built immediately after the midtown east rezoning is approved are L&L Holding's 425 Park Ave. and an undisclosed tower by SL Green Realty Corp. and Hines on East 42nd Street and Madison Avenue, directly across from Grand Central Terminal.

The Department of City Planning stands by the need for the provision. "We've spent a lot of time studying this matter," a spokeswoman said.

Mr. Garodnick points out that the kind of companies looking in midtown, mostly banks and law firms, are different from those looking on the West Side or downtown, where the rents are cheaper.

"I just don't see how one or two buildings will have that big of an impact, especially if what City Planning says is true, and we desperately need these new buildings," Mr. Garodnick said. "I think we should study it more, but right now, there appears to be no rationale for pushing this development into the future."

However, some developers and brokers insist that it would be harder for them to lease space with newfound competition in the heart of midtown Manhattan. The community boards are equally concerned. Community Board 1 recently joined three in midtown to evaluate the rezoning because the downtown board is concerned about the World Trade Center.

"The World Trade Center campus will not be completed until 2019, so how we can begin to evaluate its success before then makes no sense," said Catherine McVay Hughes, board chair of Community Board 1.

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Old May 17th, 2013, 01:52 AM   #474
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Thanks. So this tower would be under 600 ft?
If by "under 600" you mean well over 1000 then yes... 330 Madison is much closer and the angle makes it look like it's a similar height. I could stand next to a 10 story building and see 1WTC in the distance and they could look the same size.
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weren't they trying to make this the tallest building in the city at some point?
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Old May 17th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #476
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1WTC is 541 meter.
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Huh? What does that have to do with what I said?
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Old May 17th, 2013, 07:12 PM   #478
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Huh? What does that have to do with what I said?
Nothing. It is possible that was their intention, although it can't be done now anymore, but I hope it will at least reach it's fully intentioned height, unlike the Metropolitan Life North Tower.
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Old May 17th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #479
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you never know though... with a spire it could reach a higher height?
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Old May 17th, 2013, 08:31 PM   #480
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Nothing. It is possible that was their intention, although it can't be done now anymore, but I hope it will at least reach it's fully intentioned height, unlike the Metropolitan Life North Tower.
Why not? Did I miss something?

Oh well, hopefully it breaks the 350 meter range to the roof, that would be nice.
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