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Old November 17th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #821
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I think that with the rezoning, it will be 1.6m sf. Blackrock, these largest asset manager in the world, has a lease that expires in 2017.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #822
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Sorry, but this tower wasn't to change the skyline of New York???

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Still, SL Green executives clearly want to move forward. According to the transcript of an investor conference in December, Edward Piccinich, SL Green's executive vice president of property management and construction, said the company plans to build "a spectacular trophy asset with designs inspiration from around the world," drawing on iconic modern towers such as the Burj Khalifa in Dubai and the International Commerce Centre tower in Hong Kong.

"I imagined how the lines and the curves of these designs will make a huge impact on the city skyline. I thought about how great it would be [to] construct one of these tower[s] over Grand Central Terminal," Mr. Piccinich said.
… and now they are content with only 1200ft tower. They can't think of a new tower with 2/2,5M and taller than 1200ft??
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Old November 17th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #823
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They don't have air rights to build 2 or 2.5 m sf. They have 1.2m as of right and 1.6 with re zoning.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #824
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Sorry, but this tower wasn't to change the skyline of New York???



… and now they are content with only 1200ft tower. They can't think of a new tower with 2/2,5M and taller than 1200ft??
If 57th street and the Hudson Yards didn't exist, it would change the skyline. It is normal for developers to fail to include other proposed or under construction towers in their statements.
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Old November 18th, 2013, 12:07 AM   #825
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1200' is as tall as the spire on 1 Bryant Park down the street, of course this will have an impact
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Old November 18th, 2013, 12:07 AM   #826
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If 57th street and the Hudson Yards didn't exist, it would change the skyline. It is normal for developers to fail to include other proposed or under construction towers in their statements.
I actually thought the same thing.
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Old November 18th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #827
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So if it's 1,200ft to the crown, I estimate the spire to be aprox 120ft high, thus bringing this tower to a height of 1,320ft that would mean another 400m tower for NYC.

Not bad.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 10:20 AM   #828
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About 1,300 ft would be great including the spire but now they have to come up with a plan that makes it possible in the next year to revise or replace the shuttled Bloomberg plan.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #829
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a megatall in east rezoning will give a nice skyline for new york ciy
god let's new york city have this!

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Old December 10th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #830
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have this?
A ~360m roof height with a 390-400m tip of a spire?

stop being such a troll
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Old December 10th, 2013, 02:57 AM   #831
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As per this article from the 9th Dec. 2013 Crain's NY, SL Green clearly has had positive conversations with DeBlasio:

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/131209890
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Old December 10th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #832
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I hope they'll get that rezoning plan passed somehow.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 02:34 PM   #833
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They will, and I speculate that 1 Vanderbilt and 425 Park will be fast-tracked.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 02:37 PM   #834
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I hope they'll get that rezoning plan passed somehow.
There isn't a rush...thankfully, there is a consensus among city and community leaders that it is inevitable. However, what scuttled the Bloomberg plan was the sentiment that it was a "gravy train" for developers without requiring enough in the way of concessions. One thing that would be interesting, is if they could grant zoning exemptions for developers that pay into a "slush fund" for transit improvements (e.g. the manner in which air rights operate).

Many people seem to think that any rezoning in Midtown will also usher in far more residential [mixe] developments, and thus strain the subway. I'm not sure I buy that...if people live in the same general area in which they work, it will be a boon for congestion. However, I'd be glad to see rapid, deliberate improvements made.

Though, I'm an outsider, so I can only go on the conversations I've had with people in the area.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 03:31 PM   #835
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I think if East Midtown Rezoning passed today, you'd see a lot of mixed use projects, with office and residential at the tops of buildings. But if it passes in say 18 months, but doesn't allow the first building permits to be issued until 2017, with this building and 425 Park as exceptions, you could be looking at a very different type of demand. By then commercial demand could be the biggest game in town, where as now it's super high end residential, and almost all the space that gets built as a result of this could be commercial.

As is, I don't really think it matters if the new buildings are mixed use, or commercial, the areas infrastructure can't really handle many more people at all. East Side Access will be nice for sure, but the SAS really needs to get to at least 42nd St and link with that corridor.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #836
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As per this article from the 9th Dec. 2013 Crain's NY, SL Green clearly has had positive conversations with DeBlasio:

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/131209890
I have no doubt that this will pass under De Blasio, but this article is reassuring.


Anxiety over de Blasio “overblown”: SL Green chairman
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/12/...reen-chairman/

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Mathias added that de Blasio is an advocate for One Vanderbilt, SL Green’s

65-story, 1.5 million-square-foot office tower project adjacent to Grand Central Station
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Old December 10th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #837
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Yeah, it's a money thing, not a tower thing.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 11:00 PM   #838
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OK guys. some shots I made around the proposed building. Classic HIgh style of Manhattan Gotham architecture. Something tells me that in order to build anything new and huge like this proposed tower they should save the facade of the old building and build from within it and upwards.

I will post pictures without some order, but they are all from the same place - Vanderbilt
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just look at the details of the buildings
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Old December 10th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #839
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It's decent, though nothing fantastic. I would say it's worth losing if this tower ends up nicely.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #840
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There should be a law that forbids to build a glass skyscraper over a building that was made with stone and bricks. No matter how much fancy glass goes there, it won't be as memorable or classy as a hand-made structure. With that said, I want that new tower to be built... and then see thousands of people cry over the loss of such a nice building
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