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Old October 1st, 2014, 06:34 PM   #1341
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please, since the facade renovation it looks more like something that you could find in a suburb. Architecturally, It's no longer worthy of occupying that spot.

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Old October 2nd, 2014, 03:12 AM   #1342
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I agree. Sadly, the old facade is gone. This horrible Marriott's years are numbered. It surely will be replaced by a supertall one day.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 03:13 AM   #1343
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The 1st of October:

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Old October 2nd, 2014, 07:48 AM   #1344
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The first hotel pictured was glorious. The Hyatt is undistinguished. Is this location part of the Vanderbilt plan that includes the One Vanderbilt project and I believe there's a place along Madison Avenue too that could be part of this as well? The only major structure that should be renovated and remain in the area is the Roosevelt Hotel.... it still is a gem and can be fixed up to fully be worth preservation.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 07:59 PM   #1345
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I agree. Sadly, the old facade is gone. This horrible Marriott's years are numbered. It surely will be replaced by a supertall one day.
Iagree. That building won't be missed when it's gone.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 02:42 AM   #1346
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MTA reopens bidding for Midtown headquarters site
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As the city’s plans gel for Vanderbilt Ave. rezoning, the MTA has quietly reopened the bidding for the long-term lease on its headquarters block at 341-347 Madison Ave.
The site between E. 44th and 45th streets is being vacated and the winning bidder is expected to tear it down and put up a new skyscraper.

Developers have until Oct. 14 to amend their bids or submit new proposals, according to the Sept. 17 notice. The MTA sent out its original request for proposals in June 2013 and later extended its deadline to October 2013 while reopening it to new bidders. But once de Blasio was elected the major Midtown East rezoning was scrapped and since then, the MTA deal has been in a holding pattern.

Cushman & Wakefield is overseeing the bidding on behalf of the MTA. Reps for both declined to comment.

The agency is asking that new bids for the building be based on a floor area ratio (FAR) of between 24 and 30, or as much as 753,150 square feet. Right now zoning laws would allow 376,575 square feet.

There are also requirements to “support public circulation” in the area either on or off site, and the developer would have to meet “findings” with regard to the ground floor level, the massing and energy performance of the new building.

Additionally, landmark properties are expected to be able to transfer more air rights to the new structure, and any hotel within the new Vanderbilt Corridor would also need a special permit.

Steven Spinola, president of the Real Estate Board of New York, said the Vanderbilt zoning proposal should be certified by City Planning by the end of October. “Up until recently there was uncertainty as to what the city was doing. Hopefully, this will encourage people to take another look at this site.”
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 02:53 AM   #1347
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I wonder if it can be wholly hotel and residential. If so, it will be pretty tall at this height, especially since it occupies a very small footprint. The full block sites between Madison and Vanderbilt are small, yet this site is only half of that.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:06 AM   #1348
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Good news & I hope it could be a residential! The possibilities is exciting for a site with potentially 780k sf for development with a 30 FAR. Definitely a supertall here.
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Old October 4th, 2014, 06:55 AM   #1349
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I doubt old Commodore hotel is coming back. Sad, but...
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Old October 4th, 2014, 06:59 AM   #1350
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Iagree. That building won't be missed when it's gone.
It's a classic example of Early Trumpian architecture, which is to say that it's shit.
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It's been posted here in the past, but it's worth a repost.

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Old October 4th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #1352
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I love it.
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Old October 4th, 2014, 11:52 PM   #1353
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Wow, it's going to be twice as tall as the Shanghai World Financial Center?
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Old October 5th, 2014, 12:46 AM   #1354
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It will be 1,350' to the top of the crown which houses an observation deck.
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Old October 5th, 2014, 02:03 AM   #1355
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Wow, it's going to be twice as tall as the Shanghai World Financial Center?
LOL I noticed that as well but obviously different scale models.
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Old October 5th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #1356
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It's been posted here in the past, but it's worth a repost.

The top looks like an afterthought.
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Old October 5th, 2014, 06:29 PM   #1357
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From that angle maybe, but from the front it looks great seems it corresponds to the different folds in the facade.

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Old October 6th, 2014, 02:24 AM   #1358
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From that angle maybe, but from the front it looks great seems it corresponds to the different folds in the facade.

l know it's a model but for me its because the top is so transparent from the rest of the building.
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Old October 6th, 2014, 03:08 AM   #1359
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Maybe it's because the top is an observation deck. I think the lighting scheme at night will be amazing.
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Old October 6th, 2014, 02:04 PM   #1360
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it will have the highest observation deck in city , is that really??
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