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Old October 20th, 2014, 11:52 PM   #1441
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Don't forget Tower Verre silly!
Thanks Marshall!

And I thought I missed a building! But I added it in there, right between ESB and Rockefellar

One57 and Tower Verre create a nice transition from the 200m Plateau to the 400m towers! Looks very layered which is great, also I think that the ESB finally looks at home and isn't so lonely anymore
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Old October 21st, 2014, 01:19 AM   #1442
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Here's the link:

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Old October 21st, 2014, 01:33 AM   #1443
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Old October 21st, 2014, 04:47 AM   #1444
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This displays how nicely the crown integrates the interlocking pieces.

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Old October 21st, 2014, 05:13 AM   #1445
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The Grand Central Terminal facade at street level is crude and unsightly. They really should incorporate the McKim, Mead, and White's 51 East 42nd Street building instead (without the upper floors).
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Old October 21st, 2014, 05:16 AM   #1446
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You never have anything positive to say about NY. Any city in the world would love to have this tower.
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Old October 21st, 2014, 05:21 AM   #1447
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How would you know what I say? You haven't been on here as long as I have, or rather you have, but keep on creating new accounts after being banned, Robert Walpole.

Anyways, I'm not criticizing the tower in its entirety, rather pointing out a major design flaw which can be fixed beautifully with what's already there.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 04:53 AM   #1448
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Here's my list of most anticipated projects in order:
1) Nordstrom
2) Tower Verre
3) One Vanderbilt
4) Steinway
5) 30 Hudson Yards
6) 3 WTC
7) 3 Hudson Blvd

That's how excited I am about One Vanderbilt. Not only is the design great.. The increase in height took it up just a hair over the Steinway in my book.

2 WTC would be my #1 if this goes back in queue for imminent verticality.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 05:47 AM   #1449
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How would you know what I say? You haven't been on here as long as I have, or rather you have, but keep on creating new accounts after being banned, Robert Walpole.

Anyways, I'm not criticizing the tower in its entirety, rather pointing out a major design flaw which can be fixed beautifully with what's already there.
Just mention something along the lines of Chicago being better than New York and you'll really set him off.

In all seriousness, the design is okay. I feel like if the setbacks were lowered and the tapering effect wasn't so abrupt near the top that this would appear to be a really streamlined tower. Always glad to see new development though.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 04:03 PM   #1450
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http://commercialobserver.com/2014/1...r-application/

City Planning Certifies Vanderbilt Corridor Application


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The Department of City Planning certified a five-block rezoning application today for a stretch of Vanderbilt Avenue adjacent to Grand Central Terminal in Midtown East that includes SL Green Realty Corp.‘s proposed 67-story, 1.3-million-square-foot 1 Vanderbilt office tower.

The announcement officially kicks off the city’s Uniform Land Use Review Procedure, sending the contentious plan for successive evaluations by Manhattan Community Boards 5 and 6, Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer, the City Planning Commission and finally to the City Council. The certification could also restart the momentum behind the larger 73-block Midtown East rezoning that failed in the City Council last year.

Officials with the Real Estate Board of New York welcomed news of the application’s certification.

“The Vanderbilt Corridor rezoning is an integral step to ensuring that Midtown Manhattan maintains its status as a global business center,” said REBNY President Steven Spinola in a prepared statement. “This project will result in brand new modern office space that tenants demand. This project includes detailed plans to improve the experience of commuting through Grand Central Terminal by adding staircases, opening up the mezzanine level to increase circulation and increasing space at track level which will ease congestion. These improvements will ensure that businesses will continue to be attracted to Midtown Manhattan and generate more tax revenue to fund vital city services.




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Grand Central skyscraper is tall on promise


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Here's the high concept: Real estate developer S.L. Green says it'll provide New York City with $210 million in urgently necessary East Side subway improvements -- provided the city lets it build a huge 1,400-foot-tall office tower on the west side of Grand Central Terminal in one of the most densely packed places in the galaxy.

We hope the city agrees. The land-use review procedure for 1 Vanderbilt started Monday -- seeking comments from workaday residents, transit professionals, planning gurus and project neighbors. A decision is expected in perhaps seven months. And while some questions demand detailed answers, the deal's essential outline is positive. The MTA needs to ensure to work toward the best project possible.

Its biggest selling point? That one's easy. In return for an OK to build far beyond the city's height limits, S.L. Green would invest $210 million in the packed, grungy Grand Central subway station to replace staircases, make the Times Square shuttle easier to find and use, and provide access to the long-awaited Long Island Rail Road's East Side Access line, among many other things. The city would not allow Green to occupy 1 Vanderbilt until the station improvements are done.

But isn't a 1,400-foot-high tower a bit much? Not necessarily. When finished, it would be the second-tallest office tower in New York -- outdone only by 1 World Trade Center at 1,776 feet. But with creation of a more modern transit network in midtown, bigger could be far better. At the moment many buildings in the east midtown commercial district are growing old and outdated -- too small for today's sprawling office demands and too old to handle the crushing push of modern electronics. If we want to keep up with Hong Kong and London, we can't rely on the city we built several generations ago.

Many regard 1 Vanderbilt as the vanguard of a push to bring midtown east up to global standards. We hope it is. The vitality of Manhattan has always relied in large part on an egalitarian transit system and a booming real estate market. There are many specific questions to ask about 1 Vanderbilt. But what we've seen is a fair start.

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Old October 22nd, 2014, 06:53 PM   #1451
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is that roof or spire
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 07:50 PM   #1452
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 11:37 PM   #1453
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I am not crazy about this tower. It looks like a design from the 90's. It is, in my opinion, not comparable in architectural quality to all the other tall and supertall projects popping up in Manhattan.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 12:24 AM   #1454
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It is more post modern meets deconstructionist than modern. It is trying to bridge the gap in that area where 2 of the most recognizable towers are the magnificent art-deco masterpieces that are the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building. This would allow for a neo-modern supertall to be built and not look out of place.
Is it the best?
No.
Is it by any means shabby for a supertall in Midtown Manhattan?
No!
Will People Kvetch?
Of course it's New York!
Will we get used/enjoy it?
Of course it's in New York!
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 12:30 AM   #1455
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Is it the best?
No.
Is it by any means shabby for a supertall in Midtown Manhattan?
No!
Will People Kvetch?
Of course it's New York!
Will we get used/enjoy it?
Of course it's in New York!
This is the best assessment of a proposed tower I've seen on here in a long time.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 01:04 AM   #1456
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Aw thanks Marshall!!
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 01:28 AM   #1457
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Thanks Marshall!

And I thought I missed a building! But I added it in there, right between ESB and Rockefellar

One57 and Tower Verre create a nice transition from the 200m Plateau to the 400m towers! Looks very layered which is great, also I think that the ESB finally looks at home and isn't so lonely anymore
But that's is what made ESB so great it stood alone. All the other buildings looked up 2 there KING. O well progress is progress. After 80 plus years ESB is getting sum neighbors.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 03:12 AM   #1458
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What do you want to call them?
So is this another of Robert's identities.? The Lion. A pompous English theme to go along with your pompous comments. Three Lions, the crest of Britain, etc. I suspect I am right. The pattern fits. Most of your nicks have been English and you hate the poor.

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Old October 23rd, 2014, 03:18 AM   #1459
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NYGuy rules the NY roost at SSP, he ain't going nowhere. Plus I think he hates a few prominent members here at SSC with a fiery passion.
YOu can't post on SSP at all. NYguy hate everyone if you say anything he doesn't agree with. He makes sure to keep SSP a small-time site with his unfriendly attitude.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 03:55 AM   #1460
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