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Old November 13th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #1541
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Old November 14th, 2014, 08:05 AM   #1542
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Terminal City, beautiful vintage Gotham.
The Lincoln Building, or just the pictures? Here's the original plan:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...3_TermCity.jpg

Also, "existing" conditions at the time:

https://ephemeralnewyork.files.wordp...repostcard.jpg

As you can see, a skyscraper was demolished for 51 East 42nd Street before it was added onto giving us the building today. As a surviving part of the mostly-unrealized Terminal City plan, the base should be preserved as the escalators area. It would work out beautifully, instead of the proposed conditions of just blinding people with light from continuous glass.
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Old November 14th, 2014, 03:56 PM   #1543
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Yea the original Terminal City plan was never really built out. The plan was beautiful, but there was no method of enforcement. It was really just a suggestion to private developers. But the area did have some architectural unity in the early days, especially looking down Park Ave north of Grand Central. Regardless, it was still called "Terminal City."



Pershing Square as depicted in your second image never existed, sadly.
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Old November 14th, 2014, 04:01 PM   #1544
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #1545
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SL Green Signs TD Bank as Anchor Office and Retail Tenant at One Vanderbilt
New World Class Development with $210 Million of Public Transit Improvements

November 17, 2014



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SL Green Realty Corp. (NYSE:SLG) today announced that TD Bank has signed a long-term lease to become the office and retail anchor tenant at One Vanderbilt, SL Green’s proposed tower adjacent to Grand Central Terminal in the heart of New York’s Midtown commercial district. TD Bank will occupy approximately 200,000 square feet of space in One Vanderbilt, including a flagship retail store on the northeast corner of 42nd Street and Madison Avenue, demonstrating TD Bank’s commitment to East Midtown. SL Green will deliver TD Bank its space in One Vanderbilt in 2020.

SL Green President Andrew Mathias said, “Securing a major tenant of TD Bank’s caliber more than five years before One Vanderbilt is due to open makes a tremendous statement about this iconic building and the need for new, modern and efficient office space in East Midtown. We are grateful to Mayor de Blasio and his administration for their vision in supporting the modernization of the Vanderbilt Corridor and a project that will generate $210 million in public improvements. We look forward to continuing the dialogue with the community, Borough President Brewer, Council Member Garodnick and other stakeholders as part of the ongoing public review process.”

TD Bank is one of the 10 largest banks in the U.S., providing more than 8 million customers with a full range of retail, small business and commercial banking products and services. TD Bank opened its first branch in New York in 2001 and now has 124 branches in the five boroughs, including 16 branches that opened this calendar year alone.

“The move to One Vanderbilt will allow us to consolidate our New York City offices into one regional headquarters, and will offer an outstanding experience and great brand visibility for our employees and our customers,” said Christopher Giamo, Regional President, TD Bank’s Metro New York market. “This move underscores our commitment to the New York market and solidifies our presence as a major North American financial institution. With the building designed to exceed LEED Gold requirements under the new LEED 4.0 guidelines, this also aligns with our commitment to reducing carbon emissions as an environmental leader.”

Deputy Mayor for Housing and Economic Development Alicia Glen said: “We've set out to ensure East Midtown can compete for the companies and jobs of the 21st century. The announcement that TD Bank will anchor One Vanderbilt is exciting news that will strengthen our position as the global financial capital. And what's significant is that TD Bank has made this choice, not because of tax breaks or subsidies, but because of sound investments we are fostering in new office space and infrastructure. This is a model for how we intend to keep our economy growing.”

One Vanderbilt will feature 1.6 million square feet of open and efficient LEED-certified Class A office space on the entire block of Vanderbilt Avenue between East 42nd and East 43rd Street. As part of the development, SL Green will deliver a $210 million package of public transit infrastructure improvements which will create critically-needed transit connections to Metro-North and 4/5/6/7 and S trains, as well as future East Side Access LIRR lines. With the vast majority of funding allocated to upgrading the commuting experience in the over-burdened Grand Central 4/5/6 station, this unprecedented private investment will significantly improve pedestrian flow, allowing for more trains to enter the station, as well as alleviate crowding and circulation on mezzanine and platform levels. One Vanderbilt is currently undergoing the City’s formal public review process, expected to conclude next spring.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:05 PM   #1546
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Being reported by The Post and WSJ, as well.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:08 PM   #1547
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200,000 sq. ft. is helpful but it's not worth renaming the tower...
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:32 PM   #1548
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200,000 sq. ft. is helpful but it's not worth renaming the tower...
Have you seen anywhere that they will rename it? Of all the many confusing street-numbered towers going up, One Vanderbilt is the one that I really hope would keep its address as its name.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:44 PM   #1549
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200,000 sq. ft. is helpful but it's not worth renaming the tower...
I'm surprised it is enough to anchor a 1.6M sqft tower. It perhaps helps that they'll take the retail space as well?
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:46 PM   #1550
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Crazy to think Conde Nast took almost as much space as this whole tower in 1 WTC.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:51 PM   #1551
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And only filling half of the tower.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 12:31 AM   #1552
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Good news! I admit tho, surprised about the 200K sf. Whatever!!! just as long it gets this 1,514 footer going up. I assume TD bank will also lease additional space for their branch operation at the base which we may hear something about it in the near future.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #1553
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I speculate that once the tower is approved, TD will lease a lot more space and will move the US HQ here from Cherry Hill, NJ.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:18 AM   #1554
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http://nypost.com/2014/11/17/td-bank...ne-vanderbilt/

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TD Bank to anchor 65-story One Vanderbilt
By Lois Weiss
November 17, 2014 | 2:00pm


Rendering of One Vanderbilt (center).
TD Bank has officially completed a deal for 200,000 square-foot corporate office and retail deal with SL Green Realty Corp. to become the anchor tenant for the proposed 65-story One Vanderbilt Ave. the Post has learned.
The 15-year transaction would begin in 2020 and provide room for growth for the bank.
According to sources, the bank sent out a memo on Monday, noting it would bring employees for a regional headquarters from both 444 Madison Ave. and 317 Madison, which will be demolished to make way for the new LEED Gold tower that would rise on the full block between E. 42nd and 43rd streets, Madison and Vanderbilt avenues.
An official releasewas to go out later today as both the bank and the developer, SL Green are publicly traded companies.
The bank will have a new branch in the retail portion of the building at 42nd St. and Vanderbilt Ave. with branding aka TD Bank signs that will extend to the second floor of the building designed by Kohn Pedersen Fox.
The deal also includes ATMs that would be installed in a new vestibule in a new underground corridor to Grand Central, subways and the Long Island Railroad.
As a unique deal bonus, TD Bank will also obtain 30 minutes a day for advertisements on the colorful billboard on top of 1515 Broadway in Times Square where SL Green owns several projects with spectacular area signage including the American Eagle store and 1552 Broadway.
The Post first reported TD Bank was in talks to anchor the new skyscraper on May 22nd.
SL Green will present its plans for the 1.6 million square-foot 65-story, 1,514 foot tall project to the tip of its 100-foot spire before a joint community board task force hearing scheduled for Monday evening on the proposed rezoning of the Vanderbilt Corridor. Under current zoning it could only contain 1.2 million square feet but needs approvals for the tower as designed.
To provide incentives for the additional square footage, SL Green has proposed $210 million in subway and Grand Central Terminal access improvements, including a new waiting room in the base of the tower that will also connect to the new East Side Access project that will bring Long Island Railroad commuters to the station.
Some opponents claim these improvements are not worth the money. Additionally, Andrew Penson of Argent Ventures who owns Grand Central Terminal and its valuable air rights, has been opposed to the deal as SL Green already owns air rights and would not have to buy more to gain its bulk and height advantage.
To counter objections, SL Green has also now created The Coalition for a Better Grand Central that includes the Association for a Better New York, the Building and Construction Trades Council of Greater New York, the Grand Central Partnership, the New York Building Congress, the New York Hotel and Motel Trades Council, the Real Estate Board of New York, Building Trades Employers’ Association of New York City and the building workers in Local 32BJ of the Service Employees International Union.

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Old November 18th, 2014, 06:50 AM   #1555
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T As a surviving part of the mostly-unrealized Terminal City plan, the base should be preserved as the escalators area. It would work out beautifully, instead of the proposed conditions of just blinding people with light from continuous glass.
That would be a horrible idea, as the whole point of rezoning the area is to build beyond the limitations of the old Terminal City buildings, both in terms of adding modern office space and in expanding transit capacity. Your idea would thwart both aims of the rezoning.

Many of the Terminal City buildings are landmarked anyways, so there will always be evidence of the past, but the rest of the buildings can (and should) be demolished and replaced. That's the whole point.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 09:07 AM   #1556
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Ummm, what happened to the rear of GCT? It appears that the station was much larger in those old drawings.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:26 AM   #1557
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From the architect's presentation at the MAS.



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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:48 AM   #1558
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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:13 AM   #1559
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New York, I love you!

I want to hug you, kiss you, sleep and make babies with you!

damn...if you think, new york has reached its maximal beauty level, they come up with this!
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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #1560
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New York, I love you!

I want to hug you, kiss you, sleep and make babies with you!

damn...if you think, new york has reached its maximal beauty level, they come up with this!
Well, I'm not sure if this tower is beautiful. It does have an impressive height, but the overall look will depend on the materials they use. Moreover it replaces prewar buildings and this trend on Manhattan is not good at all, it's like the sixties are back again: they tear down nearly everything. NYC is losing its historical identity to glass towers that you can find in any major Asian city. In my opinion New York reached its maximal beauty level in the 1930s.
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