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Old March 19th, 2015, 05:36 AM   #1741
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Maybe they increased the height of the occupied observation tower area from 1,415' to 1,500', which would beat Nordstrom for tallest US tower.
You mean for public observation? Nordstrom could still rise 1550' although I feel 1490' is more likely too the roof. In any case its official height will be 1775'

I would be pleasantly surprised if 1Vandy hit 1500' roof height
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Old March 19th, 2015, 05:49 AM   #1742
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The 1500' is probably an approximation. 14' is nothing in the long run. IMO, the most important part is getting an office tower which has a taller roof height than 1 WTC.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:02 PM   #1743
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The highest observation deck is a selling point as well.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 11:01 PM   #1744
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I'm thinking it's going to be around 67 stories, 1400' to the roof, and the spire adds an extra 100' to get to 1,500. As is, with the height they'll get for the stories on some floors the plates will be huge. Averages out to about 21' per floor, which is amazing!
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I'm thinking it's going to be around 67 stories, 1400' to the roof, and the spire adds an extra 100' to get to 1,500. As is, with the height they'll get for the stories on some floors the plates will be huge. Averages out to about 21' per floor, which is amazing!
I doubt it will really be 21 feet per floor but maybe close... the highest office floors stop at around 1150' or 350 meters which is probably around the 60th or so floor and with a lobby and mechanical levels will come out to maybe 18' per floor at the most, still quite impressive though. The last 200+ feet of the building is a huge open air glass cube essentially with a few floor slabs which actually will be just crazy!
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Thanks for clarifying, Jay... yep that's still an amazing proportion stories to floor height. As you alluded the top will be incredible... I think the base and the setback glass crown/observation deck really will be the features that make this one an iconic standout and will be a truly magnificent complement to the Chrysler Building's Art Deco gloriousness!
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Old March 20th, 2015, 01:33 PM   #1747
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I wonder if Millstein's tower next door will be even taller.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:53 AM   #1748
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That would be crazy... crazy awesome!
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Old March 21st, 2015, 05:22 AM   #1749
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Old March 21st, 2015, 07:10 AM   #1750
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Where would Millstein's tower be?
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:02 PM   #1751
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Where would Millstein's tower be?
It's the adjacent site to the north, 335 Madison. There's a thread for it. Here's a photo that I snapped yesterday.



Millstein's site is also just south of the MTA site, so there will be 3 300m+ towers in a row!

Only in NY!!
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Old March 21st, 2015, 06:31 PM   #1752
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Oh yeah, the MTA site! So while the greater Midtown East plan may well not seriously get going for a few years realistically, in the next two or three years we'll have a few incredible new towers heralding the arrival getting started! Imagine what the area will look like over the next decade!
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Old March 21st, 2015, 07:00 PM   #1753
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I believe the Roosevelt is high on the list for the LMC's long list to protect within the Midtown East Rezoning.
I really hope so. This is a small version of Plaza hotel and I am positive it can be easily converted into nice condos. Anyone who is in the vicinity - just go and see it inside. It is one of these old Grand hotels like you don't see anywhere else anymore.
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Because Trump bought the place and Trump has no taste, so it got re-clad in class during the 80s to the dismay and horror of all lovers of good architecture.
It was not Trump, but Helmsley as far as I remember.

Besides there is another example of this BS ideas - they covered an office tower from 1930s made of brick with glass - on the Broadway and 57 str. It looks as ugly as it can be, but....
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I'll bet that reclad building on 57th St is razed within 20 years. That's an outrageously valuable site that can accommodate a very tall condo.
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So to build Millstein's tower they're planning to tear down that huge ~30 story building?
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So to build Millstein's tower they're planning to tear down that huge ~30 story building?
Yes. I believe that Milstein has owned that property for a very long time, so unlike some developers whose land acquisition costs alone exceed half a billion dollars, it cost Millstein next to nothing to acquire this very valuable site.
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Even though it is planned to have a height of over 460 metres, why does One Vanderbilt Place have only 67 floors? There is perhaps the potential for really high floor-to-ceiling heights (around 6 metres/20 feet).
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 07:29 PM   #1759
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Even though it is planned to have a height of over 460 metres, why does One Vanderbilt Place have only 67 floors? There is perhaps the potential for really high floor-to-ceiling heights (around 6 metres/20 feet).
There's a small spire and a huge semi occupied crown that could be ~100 meters tall. And the ceilings will be high. It's a combination of the three.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 04:23 AM   #1760
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I wonder if Millstein's tower next door will be even taller.
That would certainly be exciting!! Just hope this will not have a spire though because One Vandy will have one and they will be standing sooooo close to each other.
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