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Old October 9th, 2015, 07:01 AM   #1961
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Old October 9th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #1962
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A faded toothpaste ad reappears on 43rd Street

https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.c...aste-faded-ad/


Look on the right:

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Old October 9th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #1963
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[QUOTE=McSky;127709767]A faded toothpaste ad reappears on 43rd Street

https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.c...aste-faded-ad/

Apparently the person writing this article has no idea that the entire block is being demolished
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Old October 9th, 2015, 08:39 PM   #1964
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Why do you think NYC is so attractive? I'm telling you - it's because of it's old skyscrapers. Not new, old ones.
BS. Everyone has different opinions, but some of NYC's most beautiful buildings, and some of the world's most beautiful buildings, are brand new developments. New York is no more or less attractive than Hong Kong or Shanghai, or the European giants like London or Paris. Any more than, say, The Great Gatsby is a better novel than A Tale of Two Cities.

Architecture is art. Stop trying to quantify it.

Milan and Paris and especially cities like Vienna have preserved their past at the expense of their future, whereas somewhere like London mixes the new and the old better than anywhere else on Earth. It's absurd to claim that NYC - or anywhere, for that matter - is only beautiful because of its old buildings. Because those old buildings were once new and radical designs. And in two hundred years, skyscrapers in London like the Shard or the Gherkin will be as much a part of the fabric of the city as the Tower or Big Ben.

Just as in NYC, the Empire State will stand alongside its brothers in Midtown which will include One Vanderbilt and Central Park Tower and 432 Park and all the other crazy and innovative designs and it will stand shoulder to shoulder because when the Empire State was built, people reacted exactly the same way.

Tearing down old buildings, even historically important ones, is a luxury that NYC has that most places don't. Because over here, our historical buildings were destroyed by fire and by Nazi bombs. So forgive us if we look down our noses at your first world problems.
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Old October 9th, 2015, 11:05 PM   #1965
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100% agree.


is there any talk about saving the reliefs from the building?
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Old October 10th, 2015, 06:36 PM   #1966
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ONE VANDERBILT PLACE
Architect: KPF Client: SL Green Realty Corporation
Site: 42th Street, New York City
Status: Under Construction
Program: Office, Retail, Supertall
Height: 457 M Size: 1,700,000 sqft, 158.000 sqm
Leed: GOLD
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Old October 10th, 2015, 06:51 PM   #1967
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Great find! Here's one more angle from JGCH that we haven't seen before:



I've got to say, I still love everything about it... up until the crown. And even then, it's only just from some angles; North and South looks pretty balanced, but from the East and West the uppermost section of the crown looks weirdly dinky and off balance.

Still plenty of time for refinement though.
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I wonder what NYPD thinks about the open form at the bottom facing Grand Central, and the lack of columns on that side.
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Old October 10th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #1969
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I've got to say, I still love everything about it... up until the crown. And even then, it's only just from some angles; North and South looks pretty balanced, but from the East and West the uppermost section of the crown looks weirdly dinky and off balance.

Still plenty of time for refinement though.
Absolutely agree. It's almost the iconic tower this iconic location deserves, but that crown...
I'm starting to think that what we see is what we'll get cause the renderings have been consistent so far, I've seen little variations as in some of the other proposed projects. Besides excavation should begin next year so time for design changes is running out.
Still a fan of the tower tho.
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Old October 10th, 2015, 11:07 PM   #1970
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a worthy replacement, i'd say.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 05:13 AM   #1971
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Jesus Christ this thing is huge!
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Old October 12th, 2015, 06:04 AM   #1972
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That's a skyline changer, right there, and in NYC that's quite an achievement.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 08:02 AM   #1973
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I love every beam of it. Nice peace of art. Bravo New York!
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Old October 13th, 2015, 09:03 AM   #1975
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I've always liked the look of this one, but that crown is a little weird in the newest renders. I think the if the "steps" leading up to the tallest portion terminated at steeper angles it might be look better....I doubt I explained what I meant by that well, I'm tired, it'll have to do for right now.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 03:12 AM   #1976
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I think were looking at a height increase here, i mean look at it, i think were looking at 1,600ft, to the tip of course.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 03:26 AM   #1977
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I think the if the "steps" leading up to the tallest portion terminated at steeper angles it might be look better....I doubt I explained what I meant by that well, I'm tired, it'll have to do for right now.
I think you and I are of similar minds on this -- something closer to the Shard or Tower Verre. Maybe something like this?


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Old October 14th, 2015, 03:54 AM   #1978
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A bit better. Though I think that most people will agree the biggest problem is how the terracing around the crown and spire is very uneven.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 01:56 PM   #1979
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I think you and I are of similar minds on this -- something closer to the Shard or Tower Verre. Maybe something like this? One Vandy Steepened by Marshall Knight, on Flickr
I'm sorry but this is worse than the actual design.
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Old October 14th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #1980
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I'm sorry but this is worse than the actual design.
Oh no need to apologize, I'm just experimenting to see if I can put my finger on what is and isn't working with the current design. I might or I might not ultimately prefer steeper setbacks, but my main issue is with the proportions of the central, uppermost volume -- I really do think it could stand to be widened and made to look more centered, especially if they're going to insist on the off-set spire which is already drawing the eyeline off in a wonky arc.

That said, I'm looking at what I posted, and clearly have more subconscious affection than I'd realized for my hometown Transamerica Pyramid.
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