Best and worst countries to do business in Africa [INTERACTIVE]

[BUTEMBO21]

Wow, I think this is the first accurate stat. In oasis...... DRC is exactly where it i expected. Dead last.

[JoHaN 15]

Originally Posted by Carver02

So the brownouts were in 2008 but are now gone?

Yep, it was just for a few months in 2008 due to higher consumption in the winter coupled with country wide maintenance.

[Naijaborn]

Chad, the Central African Republic and the Democratic Republic of Congo ranked as the worst countires to do business in the continent. Getting credit is the only issue that is not a problem, according to the data.

Those are the three "as usual" countries of Africa. ........hmmn

[dexter159]

Originally Posted by JoHaN 15

Lol South Africa is 15th in the world in electricity generation. Morocco is 72.

That was just a sarcastic comment about the typo

There are currently no "electricity problems" in the Republic of South Africa. There was an electricity shortage last year which lead to the implementation of daily planned power outages known as "load shedding". The reason stated by electricity supplier Eskom was that the current infrastructure could not meet the demands of electricity in the developing country. Critics cited corruption in the government as the root of the electricity crisis. They support their argument with proof showing that forecast reports and analysis made as early as 1998 showed that by 2008 the country's electrical infrastructure will not meet the demands. That report was ignored by the government. Today however, using funds from increased electricity rates, Eskom is rapidly upgrading its infrastructure with at least 5 new power stations being built. It should also be noted that the South African government supplies electricity to other countries in southern Africa as far up as the Democratic Republic of Congo. South Africa is the only nuclear power in the region and thus has to meet the demands of millions of people.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the...#ixzz1x3OmCLOh

That was about the shortage , but doing a business has other standards

SA Getting Electricity rank : 124

MOROCCO Getting Electricity rank : 107


http://www.doingbusiness.org/data/ex.../south-africa/

1 Submit an application for electricity connection to Eskom and await an estimate of connection fees 60 calendar days no charge
2 Await completion of the external connection works by Eskom 165 calendar days ZAR 862,679.0
* 3 Submit a Certificate of Internal Wiring Compliance to Eskom 1 calendar day no charge
4 Sign a supply contract with Eskom and obtain a final connection 1 calendar day no charge

You need to wait 225 days (7.5 month ) to get connected to the network

http://www.doingbusiness.org/data/ex...nomies/morocco

1 The client applies for electricity connection and awaits estimate of connection fees from Lydec 15 calendar days no charge
* 2 The client obtains external inspection by Lydec 1 calendar day no charge
3 The client hires a private firm accredited by Lydec to design and carry out the external works 41 calendar days MAD 594,765.8
4 The client obtains a certificate of control of the Low-Voltage (LV) works from a body approved by the Ministry of Labor 7 calendar days MAD 6,000.0
5 The client signs a supply (subscription) contract and obtains part of the works and final electricity connection by Lydec 8 calendar days MAD 6,455.4

71 days in morocco , but it cost more .

[Dhuks]

South Africa power demand must be huge for them to resort to load shedding. Their power generation is very impressive.

[JoHaN 15]

Originally Posted by dexter159

That was just a sarcastic comment about the typo

I didn't even notice lol.

Btw most people are already connected to the grid.

[Lydon]

Originally Posted by mwinyi

why not go nuclear?

We're planning on building 6 more nuclear plants to supplement the existing nuclear plant in Cape Town. And we're building two huge coal plants at the moment of something like 3600MW each, have approved around 70 wind farms, are building solar plants etc. etc. Yet we're struggling to keep up with demand :/

Foreign firms under pressure to find local partners
* Nuclear power needed for teetering electric grid
By Sherilee Lakmidas

JOHANNESBURG, April 23 (Reuters) - South Africa wants to see its firms eventually being awarded the bulk of the contracts in its $50 billion plan to build six nuclear plants to power Africa's biggest economy, the head of its electric utility said on Monday.

Firms from France, the United States, Japan, South Korea, China and Russia have been lining up for years for a chance to win the contract, one of the biggest in the world for nuclear power.

Eskom chief executive Brian Dames said while the first of the nuclear power units might only secure 35 percent localised content, the country wants to see that rise to about 70 percent by the time the final plants are built.

"This is a key objective for us," Dames said at a National Union of Mineworkers nuclear energy seminar.

South Africa, which has the only nuclear plant on the continent, wants to build up the capability of its construction and manufacturing firms through the nuclear contract, putting pressure on foreign builders to procure more from local companies.

"Our view is we should do this in partnership with national players. We don't have to do this alone but majority ownership should remain in South Africa."

The energy-hungry country plans to build six new nuclear power plants, providing 9,600 megawatts (MW) of power, or about a quarter of current capacity. The first electricity is expected to come online in 2024.

The country is operating on razor-thin electricity margins and needs the power to grow its energy-intensive mining industry

Potential bidders are likely to include Areva, EDF, Toshiba's Westinghouse Electric Corp, China Guangdong Nuclear Power Group, South Korea's Korea Electric Power Corp (KEPCO) and Russia's Rosatom.

Minister of Energy Dipuo Peters told the same seminar no date had been set for when the bidding process will start.

The international contract will be one of the largest South Africa has offered since a multi-billion arms deal about a decade ago. That deal was mired in criminality with several political heavyweights convicted of receiving bribes.

South Africa is seen as coming to the aid of an ailing nuclear industry battling for new customers after new nuclear reactor builds were all but halted in the wake of Japan's Fukushima disaster last year.

(Writing by Jon Herskovitz; Editing by James Jukwey)

[Nostra]

Originally Posted by Dhuks

South Africa power demand must be huge for them to resort to load shedding. Their power generation is very impressive.

It's all the smelters and mines, one BHP Billiton aluminium smelter consumes more than 1000MW of electricity.

Anyways back to the topic...

[Rosaudio]

I'm sure SA just fell a little bit more, we have such idiotic leaders.

Good riddance to foreign investors: ANCYL

Durban - South Africa would welcome the flight of foreign investors scared off by nationalisation and expropriation, ANC Youth League deputy president Ronald Lamola said on Friday.

"We are told that investors are going to be scared away when we speak about the economy. Good riddance. South Africans will take over."

Lamola made the comments as he addressed the ninth national congress of the National Union of Metal Workers of SA (Numsa).

Land invasions

Lamola came under fire over comments he made on Tuesday that if white South Africans did not hand land over to poor blacks, there could be land invasions like those that took place in Zimbabwe.

He reiterated his call for section 25 of the Constitution to be amended, saying it was an impediment to the nationalisation of mines and the expropriation of land.

The call to nationalise was no different to the British government's 2008 acquisition of the majority of the shares of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group.

To thunderous applause Lamola told the delegates that the SA Constitution "was ours" and that "we brought it here".

Doesn't scare people

"The ANC must never apologise for wanting to amend the Constitution. We brought the Constitution to South Africa. It's ours. If there is an impediment, we must amend it."

A constitution that was praised around the world was no good if the majority of South Africans were living in squalor.

He said detractors' comments that ANCYL nationalisation and land expropriation calls would result in a Zimbabwe-like situation was not something that scared people who were living in extreme poverty in townships like Alexandra.

Referring to metal workers, he said that their professions were being controlled by whites.

"All the professions are controlled by the white man. This must come to an end. The state must intervene."

He said blacks had been admitted to the professions "for the sake of compliance", which was "a cosmetic exercise".

- SAPA

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Po...ANCYL-20120608

There is no hope.

[dysan1]

basing your view on the constantly idiotic and condenmed views of the ancyl and numsa...they are even told they have no clue by cosatu.... is hardly damning. these guys will forever talk like this, doesnt mean people are listening or caring...except for the papers which love to incite this fear.

[JoHaN 15]

The ANCYL should be euthanised.

[SpringBokBoi]

^ If only, they should have that mind eraser that they have on MIB and use it to make them think they are on the DA's side, that would be good. Forget all these retarded nationalism ideas.

[Carver02]

Originally Posted by Rosaudio

I'm sure SA just fell a little bit more, we have such idiotic leaders.



http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Po...ANCYL-20120608

There is no hope.

How can you say there is no hope when there is no nationalization and SA has successfully opened its arms to foreign investment?

A drama queen?

[Tetwani]

Originally Posted by JoHaN 15

Lol South Africa is 15th in the world in electricity generation. Morocco is 72.

Yes but we are connected to Europe, thats what explains why Moroccans were lazy investing in electricity generation => When we need more we just buy cheap electricity from our European neighbours.

We invested more in expensive electricity such as the new green technologies and in distribution, while SA invested in big coal fired power plants. Because we don't have the same priorities ( In 2009, Morocco had an access to electricity of 97% while South Africa was at 75% so you are generating more electricity than us, but our people have a far better access to it source)

[Tetwani]

Originally Posted by Snassni

I thought that you need to be friends with the King to open a company?
Where is Mister79?

My

It doesn't mean that Mister79 was wrong.

[Lydon]

Originally Posted by Tetwani

Yes but we are connected to Europe, thats what explains why Moroccans were lazy investing in electricity generation => When we need more we just buy cheap electricity from our European neighbours.

We invested more in expensive electricity such as the new green technologies and in distribution, while SA invested in big coal fired power plants. Because we don't have the same priorities ( In 2009, Morocco had an access to electricity of 97% while South Africa was at 75% so you are generating more electricity than us, but our people have a far better access to it source)

By 2014 South Africa will have 100% access to electricity, so there goes that little attack.

But what's funny is that Morocco is paying so much attention to investing in renewable energy, which is great, but it is only impressive as a percentage of your total electricity usage. South Africa has many more renewable projects in the pipeline that will in fact end up generating more renewable energy than Morocco on top of the two massive coal plants we're constructing (that will generate more than the entire Moroccan grid) and our existing electricity usage (which is multiple times what Morocco's usage is). We're currently processing over 70 wind farms for the Western and Eastern Cape provinces alone, which excludes wind farm projects elsewhere in the country, solar plants and other renewable plants.

Like I've said many times before, one need only look at South Africa's electricity usage compared to Morocco's to see the massive differences in the amount of infrastructure in each country. You may try to argue that it's "the mines using all the energy!" but the mines use around 27% of generated electricity. The majority is used in manufacturing.

[Inertia]

Originally Posted by Nostra

You're partly right. There's no shortage as in there are hardly blackouts in SA, but the situation is extremely tight. Apparently on some cold winter days there's only about 400MW of spare capacity (not counting the diesel powered turbines abt 1500MW, which are used as the very last resort).

However for new developments, getting electricity is a mission, the only way SA's growing atm is due to electricity efficiency gains.

I had a 3 hour power cut this morning. Other parts of Sandton are out too, I hear

[dakhla]

Originally Posted by Lydon

Like I've said many times before, one need only look at South Africa's electricity usage compared to Morocco's to see the massive differences in the amount of infrastructure in each country. You may try to argue that it's "the mines using all the energy!" but the mines use around 27% of generated electricity. The majority is used in manufacturing.

what do u mean by electricity usage ?, there is over 99% of the population connected to the electricity grid in the cities, and 97% in the rural area. there is no shortage. what do you want us to do? produce electricity from coal imported from south africa and export it ? if we had 1000 of mines and their industries we will deffinetly build more and more capacity. but our main industries are auto industry, textile, agro industry, aeronautic industry...., and serveces. the capacity is enough to satisfy the demand. Now we are going green and we want to be an exporter of renewable energy.

so belive me if we had all those gold, platinium, coal..... mines and industry, we will be producing more than south africa since we always generate enough energy to satisfy the demand and it wasn't the case for south africa in last few years.

[Lydon]

Originally Posted by dakhla

what do u mean by electricity usage ?, there is over 99% of the population connected to the electricity grid in the cities, and 97% in the rural area. there is no shortage. what do you want us to do? produce electricity from coal imported from south africa and export it ? if we had 1000 of mines and their industries we will deffinetly build more and more capacity. but our main industries are auto industry, textile, agro industry, aeronautic industry...., and serveces. the capacity is enough to satisfy the demand. Now we are going green and we want to be an exporter of renewable energy.

so belive me if we had all those gold, platinium, coal..... mines and industry, we will be producing more than south africa since we always generate enough energy to satisfy the demand and it wasn't the case for south africa in last few years.

I highly suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills:

Electricity generation by country:

South Africa - 268 100 GWh
Morocco - 19 493 GWh

South Africa's mines use 27% of its electricity - 72 387 GWh

South Africa's electricity usage for everything other than mines - 195 793 GWh

So, if you can do simple math, you'll note that South Africa uses more than ten times the amount of electricity that Morocco does in order to power its homes and industries, and it is still not enough So dream on, dear Dakhla, if you think that Morocco would ever be producing more electricity than South Africa would - with or without the mines. Even with all of South Africa's mines teleported into Moroccan territory, we would still be generating more than 2.5 times the amount of electricity Morocco would...

[reda85]

Originally Posted by Lydon

I highly suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills:

Electricity generation by country:

South Africa - 268 100 GWh
Morocco - 19 493 GWh

South Africa's mines use 27% of its electricity - 72 387 GWh

South Africa's electricity usage for everything other than mines - 195 793 GWh

So, if you can do simple math, you'll note that South Africa uses more than ten times the amount of electricity that Morocco does in order to power its homes and industries, and it is still not enough So dream on, dear Dakhla, if you think that Morocco would ever be producing more electricity than South Africa would - with or without the mines. Even with all of South Africa's mines teleported into Moroccan territory, we would still be generating more than 2.5 times the amount of electricity Morocco would...

The big question remains : why the hell do you produce a s*it load of electricity when 25% of your population aren't connected? why do you expect from Morocco to generate more electricity than its needs?