INFRASTRUKTUR | Norske veier | Roads and Highways

[Þróndeimr]

Originally Posted by IceCheese

This is a flat area, and to build graded intersections here, would probably involve tearing down nearby houses. Seriously expensive. An alternative could be filling out in Trondheimsfjorden, but try to get Riksantikvaren and Miljøverndepartementet accepting that!

Yes, but this is not the case in Stjørdal. The E6 Steinkjer is a good example of how to solve this, at least for the E6+E14 corner where you could easily just make it a bit bigger to handle more traffic.



There is more than enough room, especially when they are going to fill out this area anyway.

[Kjello0]

Vegvesenet "wanted" to build a grade separted junction, but they weren't allowed to use more of strandsonen. TV-interview.

Personally I'm against the whole project. A new E6 through Stjørdal should go east of the city. This becouse any future motorway between Trondheim and Steinkjer have to go in a longer tunnel between Stjørdal and Åsen.



I'm not that very fond of keeping the airport at Stjørdal either. They are to big for eachother. But sadly there are no alternative areas suitable for a new airport of that size. At least I can't see any.

[Ingenioren]

Shouldn't the motorway follow the built up corridor to serve Levanger, Skogn etc. ?

[Kjello0]

My picture is between Stjørdal and Åsen only. Skogn, Levanger, Verdal and Steinkjer is further north.

[IceCheese]

Originally Posted by Kjello0

Vegvesenet "wanted" to build a grade separted junction, but they weren't allowed to use more of strandsonen. TV-interview.

So I was correct afterall...

[Kjello0]

Well, If you look at this picture you see that they are going to fill up Trondheimsfjorden at that location anyways. Building a grade seperated intersection would be no problem.

[Þróndeimr]

Better renderings.




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[54°26′S 3°24′E]

Originally Posted by Þróndeimr

Just a quick one, think i remembered them all (there really isn't much to remember...)

You forgot quite a lot of roads/streets in central Trondheim.

Originally Posted by Þróndeimr

Not a chance...



That will never happen. We might get a few more 2+1 lanes though.

The long term plan of Vegvesenet is four lanes Støren-Steinkjer, but things are progressing quite slowly. First phase north of Stjørdal might be Stjørdal-Åsen.

Originally Posted by Kjello0

Vegvesenet "wanted" to build a grade separted junction, but they weren't allowed to use more of strandsonen. TV-interview.

I think one issue was that a grade separated solution would be to tall (visually), or too expensive (if dug down).

Personally I'm against the whole project. A new E6 through Stjørdal should go east of the city. This becouse any future motorway between Trondheim and Steinkjer have to go in a longer tunnel between Stjørdal and Åsen.


I'm not that very fond of keeping the airport at Stjørdal either. They are to big for eachother. But sadly there are no alternative areas suitable for a new airport of that size. At least I can't see any.

IMO a better idea for the E6 would be a tunnel below the fjord Ranheim-Frosta. From there it would also be quite easy to continue all the way to Fosen (but the latter arm of the tunnel should not be E6)

The airport is there to stay.

[Þróndeimr]

Originally Posted by 54°26′S 3°24′E

You forgot quite a lot of roads/streets in central Trondheim.

I didn't include the roads with kollektivfelt (which all 4x4 roads between Tempe and Lade is) thats why.

[Ingenioren]

3/7-10

New road from Hasle to Økern in Oslo, close to opening - a local road, but it will serve as a detour while Østre Aker vei is closed for Økern upgrade:



Crossing a bridge over some local roads, T-bane and parkingslots:




Ramp from Ring3 comming from the right:


Roundabout north of Ring3, mainroad continues right:


From the new localroad, it's a deadend:


Continuing the main road:


Another round-about with tangent-lane from Økern:


Ulvenveien towards Økern:


Going under Alnabanen railway:


Some work remains at Økern:

[Þróndeimr]

SINTEF and NorNet is making some grand plans for a truly unique bridge between Bø and Hadsel in Nordland. The bridge
will be 3.8km long. Wind, wave and tide-turbines will be built on the bridge making the bridge producing a whole
lot of renewable energy!

The bridge will be very useful for the 2 800 people living in the municipality of Bø in Vesterålen. A bridge here will
shorten the road from the town of Bø with 2 hours of driving.









Watch a video here:

[mjoks007]

Originally Posted by Þróndeimr

SINTEF and NorNet is making some grand plans for a truly unique bridge between Bø and Hadsel in Nordland. The bridge
will be 3.8km long. Wind, wave and tide-turbines will be built on the bridge making the bridge producing a whole
lot of renewable energy!

The bridge will be very useful for the 2 800 people living in the municipality of Bø in Vesterålen. A bridge here will
shorten the road from the town of Bø with 2 hours of driving.

We live in a weird country....

Edit: I like idea of the bridge making renewable energy though!

[IceCheese]

I hope the project saves in a lot of money compared to doing each by themselves...

[Mulefisk]

An image from Google Maps that shows where (I'm assuming) the bridge will run.



Seriously, there is nothing in the area. Can't they just run some ferries? I'm pretty sure that would be cheaper in the long run. 2 800 people isn't enough for a bridge this size. If the bridge was part of a national highway system or something like that then it would be fine, but this is just a bridge from one remote island to another.

A renewable energy bridge sound great, but why not build it in a place that actually has some people in it?

[essenze]

Originally Posted by Þróndeimr

SINTEF and NorNet is making some grand plans for a truly unique bridge between Bø and Hadsel in Nordland. The bridge
will be 3.8km long. Wind, wave and tide-turbines will be built on the bridge making the bridge producing a whole
lot of renewable energy!

The bridge will be very useful for the 2 800 people living in the municipality of Bø in Vesterålen. A bridge here will
shorten the road from the town of Bø with 2 hours of driving.

You gotta be F***ing kidding me!! A mega sized bridge smack in the middle of nowhere !?? 2800 people ?? If it gets built, it will take waste of money to new levels.. The REALLY appalling fact is that similar things has happened before, and this while the infrastructure development in, around and between the major cities are starving..

[Þróndeimr]

Originally Posted by Mulefisk

An image from Google Maps that shows where (I'm assuming) the bridge will run.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4128/25088198.jpg

Seriously, there is nothing in the area. Can't they just run some ferries? I'm pretty sure that would be cheaper in the long run. 2 800 people isn't enough for a bridge this size. If the bridge was part of a national highway system or something like that then it would be fine, but this is just a bridge from one remote island to another.

A renewable energy bridge sound great, but why not build it in a place that actually has some people in it?

There is a map on the video showing the location, so its correct.

But lets face the fact that this project can't become a reality at that location, its just that the company who gave birth to the idea of such a bridge is located in Bø. The politicians in Bø wants to do a 'forprosjekt' to see if this is a realistic project. I'd be very surprised if they find this bridge economical, when bridges such as Hålogalandbrua doesn't seem to be realised at the first place.

Actually, Fosna-Folket had a article about the bridge today, since Fosenvegene would like to see if such a renewable energy bridge could be done here. But they mention a bridge across Stjørnfjorden (fjord between Ørland and Rissa where only 5000 will benefit from), not Trondheimsfjorden (where 25 000 will benefit from)...

Great idea of a bridge, just a poor location. Wouldn't this be better if it was the Denmark-Germany bridge?

[54°26′S 3°24′E]

Originally Posted by Þróndeimr

Actually, Fosna-Folket had a article about the bridge today, since Fosenvegene would like to see if such a renewable energy bridge could be done here. But they mention a bridge across Stjørnfjorden (fjord between Ørland and Rissa where only 5000 will benefit from), not Trondheimsfjorden (where 25 000 will benefit from)...

Great idea of a bridge, just a poor location. Wouldn't this be better if it was the Denmark-Germany bridge?

Perhaps a bit more windy in Vesterålen? Regarding Stjørnfjorden, is it Fosenvegene (with support from the local politicians) or that "Kystvegen" lobby group that has this proposal? It is a project with slightly better benefits than your describe however, as the bridge with connect the most populous regions of Fosen (around 20 000 people?), and be welcomed by Hytte-people from Trondheim as well. There has been far worse projects in Norway, but I do not believe in a bridge here. To deep / wide.

In any case, why don't anyone in Fosen work for a Trondheimsfjord crossing. It is possible with todays technology via Frosta, the Trondheim-Frosta could form a new route for E6 (shortening it significantly). Trondheimsfjord-tunnel + Stjørnfjorden would of course be perfect, making Ørlanded the new Rygge of Trøndelag...

[Þróndeimr]

Originally Posted by 54°26′S 3°24′E

Perhaps a bit more windy in Vesterålen? Regarding Stjørnfjorden, is it Fosenvegene (with support from the local politicians) or that "Kystvegen" lobby group that has this proposal? It is a project with slightly better benefits than your describe however, as the bridge with connect the most populous regions of Fosen (around 20 000 people?), and be welcomed by Hytte-people from Trondheim as well. There has been far worse projects in Norway, but I do not believe in a bridge here. To deep / wide.

Only Ørlandet and Bjugn benefit from this (parts of Bjugn in a lesser degree) (of course, more will benefit from it going to those places), but about 9 500 people live in Bjugn+Ørland. And you would have to build a new road from Rissa-Fevåg (20km new road, 3-5km long tunnel). And most likely its only the Kystvegen group that is considering this, not Fosenveiene. And anyway, the gain of this new rout is less than 30min driving. So its just wrong to do Stjørnfjorden first, when Tr.sfjorden counts far more.

[City of Rain]

http://www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/Os-B...t-1124204.html

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[GlennHGSD]

They are checking to see if Rogfast will be geologically viable

http://www.h-avis.no/nyheter/startet...ring-1.5472146

Rogfast is a planned tunnel/bridge road connection planned between Stavanger and Haugesund region, to replace the existing ferry/tunnel route (seen to the right)