LONDON - New QPR Stadium (45,000)

[Köbtke]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

That's basically what my sketchup model includes

Let's have a look?

[Laurence2011]

it's not finished at the moment, almost there, it will be on the sketchup 3D warehouse tonight though, my sketchup username is "modelman" by the way.

[Laurence2011]

the model has been uploaded now if anyone wants to take a look, just search "New QPR Stadium" on the 3D warehouse

[Nikola10]

stadium is ok but it not good overall ill give 6/10 sorry all round 1st tier would give 8/10...

[Köbtke]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

the model has been uploaded now if anyone wants to take a look, just search "New QPR Stadium" on the 3D warehouse

I like it Good job. Although closing the corners somehow, perhaps with towers like Parken would make it feel more compact.

Planning to have a go with a 45k version?

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by Köbtke

I like it Good job. Although closing the corners somehow, perhaps with towers like Parken would make it feel more compact.

Planning to have a go with a 45k version?

Thank you I did experiment with that a bit but it didn't look good.. however the idea of some kind of towers with some corporate facilities in does seem like a nice idea, i'll have a go at that tonight. As for the 45.000 capacity, I was thinking of adding a second tier onto the west stand and maybe some seats in the corners or something.. anyways i'll have a look and see what I can do tonight

[Pelt]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

Thank you I did experiment with that a bit but it didn't look good.. however the idea of some kind of towers with some corporate facilities in does seem like a nice idea, i'll have a go at that tonight. As for the 45.000 capacity, I was thinking of adding a second tier onto the west stand and maybe some seats in the corners or something.. anyways i'll have a look and see what I can do tonight

Not to hijack a QPR thread with my unfinished Chelsea idea, but I'll just throw this in here to illustrate how I did my corners. I just basically had the stands wrap around the pitch but only going up about half-way before cutting it off by interjecting walls that somewhat segregate the four different stands. It creates that facing that you could place some 'corporate facilities' in, as you mention, but I'm placing video/scoreboards in mine. Just a thought.

[Nikola10]

that perfect for QPR

[Nikola10]

that perfect for QPR without the Chelsea names and must reduced because that like 50,000-75,000 cap to 40,000-45,000

[canarywondergod]

Very Ibrox esc. Not that that is a bad thing!

[RonyFurtado]

has no official image of the project?

[Spurs1985]

On the ken and Chelsea website it says there was a meeting back on 11 July regarding the site around the gasworks,and one of the topics they discussed was qpr moving there.TF did say there were two potential sites,maybe that is one of them!

[Spurs1985]

On the ken and Chelsea website it says there was a meeting back on 11 July regarding the site around the gasworks,and one of the topics they discussed was qpr moving there.TF did say there were two potential sites,maybe that is one of them!

[RonyFurtado]

has no official image of the project?²

[RMB2007]

Originally Posted by RonyFurtado

has no official image of the project?²

Nope. They need to buy some land first.

[timo9]

Originally Posted by RMB2007

Nope. They need to buy some land first.

OK

[BoulderGrad]

This is a Yank asking this, so be gentle with your responses.

As I understand, London clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea who have a world wide brand (played a pick up game in Seattle and 4 guys had on either Arsenal or Chelsea kit) have no trouble filling their stadiums.

How much support does a side like QPR or Fulham or West Ham pull? Do they have a long waiting list for tickets?

Even though it didn't come to fruition, Chelsea was working on a 60,000 seat stadium, Tottenham is working on their 60,000 seat stadium, West Ham is getting a 60,000 seat Olympic stadium, etc etc. With all these clubs upsizing, is there suddenly going to be a vacuum of seating capacity? Or is there enough demand that they can absorb another 100,000 fans per week in London?

[RobH]

Arsenal generally fill their stadium well though it's rarely completely full to capacity. They count tickets sold rather than bums on seats so official attendances can be deceiving. But they're now in a stadium that befits the size of the club, no doubt about that.

Spurs are the London club in most dire need of a new stadium, with a huge waiting list for season tickets - hence the 25k extra they're looking to accommodate with a new stadium build. They will want to emulate what Arsenal have done with the Emirates and as soon as they can, because without a Sugar Daddy increasing revenue and cashing in on their large fanbase is vital.

With West Ham it remains to be seen whether they can draw 60k regularly, but the Olympic stadium looks like a good financial opportunity for them, or at least for their owners. As I understand it, there's not much of a waiting list for tickets at their current ground, so it's questionable whether they'd be looking at 60k had the opportunity of the Olympic Stadium not arisen.

Chelsea don't fill their stadium as easily as you'd think and often have to advertise tickets on the radio or on Tube posters. They might be a huge global brand now but the fanbase isn't what some would imagine. They're a big club, but not a giant, and supply does outstrip demand at times. In the fuiture with success behind them and a new generation of fans that success generates, 60k+ might be good for them. At the moment, it might be a bit too much too soon, though it would help them with UEFA's FFP rules which will start biting soon. It's telling that a new stadium was never a huge priority for Roman Abramovich until now.

I think the smaller clubs do ok, but they of course have smaller stadiums to fill. QPR is now a pretty wealthy club and they're looking to get bigger. Their stadium really isn't a Premier League standard ground so it's not suprising they're looking to a new one. And Fulham have steadily grown under Al Fayad and are looking to extend their Cravan Cottage home, so they obviously believe they have the numbers to fill an expanded stadium.

So, to anser your question, West Ham are really the only question mark here in terms of capacity overkill. If QPR go silly on the capacity of their new stadium there might be a vaccuum of seats for them as well but I don't expect them to do that.

[alwn]

Originally Posted by RobH

Arsenal generally fill their stadium well though it's rarely completely full to capacity. They count tickets sold rather than bums on seats so official attendances can be deceiving. But they're now in a stadium that befits the size of the club, no doubt about that.

Spurs are the London club in most dire need of a new stadium, with a huge waiting list for season tickets - hence the 25k extra they're looking to accommodate with a new stadium build. They will want to emulate what Arsenal have done with the Emirates and as soon as they can, because without a Sugar Daddy increasing revenue and cashing in on their large fanbase is vital.

With West Ham it remains to be seen whether they can draw 60k regularly, but the Olympic stadium looks like a good financial opportunity for them, or at least for their owners. As I understand it, there's not much of a waiting list for tickets at their current ground, so it's questionable whether they'd be looking at 60k had the opportunity of the Olympic Stadium not arisen.

Chelsea don't fill their stadium as easily as you'd think and often have to advertise tickets on the radio or on Tube posters. They might be a huge global brand now but the fanbase isn't what some would imagine. They're a big club, but not a giant, and supply does outstrip demand at times. In the fuiture with success behind them and a new generation of fans that success generates, 60k+ might be good for them. At the moment, it might be a bit too much too soon, though it would help them with UEFA's FFP rules which will start biting soon. It's telling that a new stadium was never a huge priority for Roman Abramovich until now.

I think the smaller clubs do ok, but they of course have smaller stadiums to fill. QPR is now a pretty wealthy club and they're looking to get bigger. Their stadium really isn't a Premier League standard ground so it's not suprising they're looking to a new one. And Fulham have steadily grown under Al Fayad and are looking to extend their Cravan Cottage home, so they obviously believe they have the numbers to fill an expanded stadium.

So, to anser your question, West Ham are really the only question mark here in terms of capacity overkill. If QPR go silly on the capacity of their new stadium there might be a vaccuum of seats for them as well but I don't expect them to do that.

Premiere League; last season 2011/2012
home averange attendance of the London clubs by percent capacity:
1. Chelsea 41,478 99,6%
2. Tottenham 36,071 99,6%
3. Arsenal 59,960 99,3%
4. Fulham 25,316 98,8%
5. QPR 17,295 94,1%

When you fill with 99% you have to extend the capacities for sure..

[jts1882]

Originally Posted by alwn

Premiere League; last season 2011/2012
home averange attendance of the London clubs by percent capacity:
1. Chelsea 41,478 99,6%
2. Tottenham 36,071 99,6%
3. Arsenal 59,960 99,3%
4. Fulham 25,316 98,8%
5. QPR 17,295 94,1%

When you fill with 99% you have to extend the capacities for sure..

Not necessarily. While the stadium is full, prices can be kept high. People who want to see the big games have to buy season tickets.

Man City (until recently) and Sunderland found that with excess capacity people could just buy tickets for the games they wanted.