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Old March 13th, 2006, 01:41 AM   #41
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Clark would be a good option or Cebu or even maybe in Laoag where the Malacanan of the north is.... but.. for me.. I'd like to keep Manila as the capital as is... this is because even if the capital moves into any island of the country, this does not assure us that corruption will be squashed.. plus it may become a window for more corruption with the funds that will be used to build the house of representatives and the new presidential palace etc...
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Old March 13th, 2006, 03:45 AM   #42
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Manila should still remain as the cultural capital of the country, with the administrative capital being transferred to Clark (or Cebu)
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Old March 13th, 2006, 03:52 AM   #43
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it wont be transfered..Sure! But if ever, Clark and Cebu..
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Old March 13th, 2006, 04:10 AM   #44
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let's not forget dinho is the one who created this thread, so let's nominate bacolod to be the next capital of the philippines. it's heaven and the most highly urbanized and metroist in the whole country. after the transfer of malacanang to bacolod, let's all transfer our residency also to this very progressive city and close all the cities of the philippines. in that way dinho will be very happy. malacanang in bacolod go go. i will nominate dinho to be the next president too not only here in SSC for the philippines. go read all his posts and you'll see dinho is the man!
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Old March 13th, 2006, 04:20 AM   #45
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"We all know it was Cebu vs Marawi and Manila vs Jolo for centuries. The Spanish never captured the whole island except for the northern coasts and Zamboanga, Davao, and Cotabato. Moreover, the Bangsamoro and ARMM people might see this move as a final campaign to subjugate them and crush their national aspirations. (Also, we are putting our government closer to 'danger'. The government might have a hard time implementing its projects with Bangsamoro just in the other end of the national highway.) The new capital of the Strong Republic should be placed where Filipino is majority, where history and culture is strongest. Moving the capital outside Manila and still within Luzon is just waste of time. It's not signalling any change."

Filipino is the majority? This is nonsense. Salipada Pendatun, Mamintal Tamano, etc. are Filipinos. It just happen that their religion is Islam. So Pres. Ramos is not a Filipino because he is a Protestant? How about the members of Iglesia ni Kristo?
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Old March 13th, 2006, 04:27 AM   #46
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the struggle continues. let's just say Malaysia is not 100% muslim (and that it has Chinese (Buddhist), Indian (Hindu), and Christian (Moluccan) population. but the government is Muslim (Malay) exclusive. Fidel Ramos (Protestant) was acting as a National leader when he invited the Vatican City to hold the World Youth Day in Manila in 1995. National Iglesia ni Kristo has RC and Spanish(Filipino) roots obviously.

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Old March 13th, 2006, 07:13 AM   #47
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let's not forget dinho is the one who created this thread, so let's nominate bacolod to be the next capital of the philippines. it's heaven and the most highly urbanized and metroist in the whole country. after the transfer of malacanang to bacolod, let's all transfer our residency also to this very progressive city and close all the cities of the philippines. in that way dinho will be very happy. malacanang in bacolod go go. i will nominate dinho to be the next president too not only here in SSC for the philippines. go read all his posts and you'll see dinho is the man!
You are totally out of line and you are already making a personal attack. You can check out the Bacolod and Negros Occidental Thread II if you want. We Bacolenos don't want our city to become a national capital. As somebody here had said, a new capital, if ever they move it, should not be a major city. Bacolod happens to be a major city and is the 4th largest metropolitan area after Cebu and Davao... therefore, it cannot be qualified. I never even suggested one of the cities or towns that make up Metro Bacolod. A new capital should be built from scratch in the Central Philippines. As Askal said, we should go federal, but I believe we really need a thorough overhaul and it means moving out the financial capital out of Metro MAnila and Luzon to a less populated area.

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Old March 13th, 2006, 07:14 AM   #48
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I don't think we need to be Catholics to be considered a Filipino.. our Muslim countrymen are Filipinos as well even though there are some Muslim groups who want to separate... I believe majority of the Muslim Filipinos still want to remain part of the Philippines and not with the warring Muslim minority..
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Old March 13th, 2006, 07:24 AM   #49
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political crisis nga hirap na hirap na eh, eto pa kaya?
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Old March 13th, 2006, 08:11 AM   #50
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Bago nilang ilipat ang kabisera ng bansa, dapat maging federal government muna. Ang kaso : gusto nila munang mapatalsik si gma.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:24 PM   #51
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Yup no need for a new capital too because everything would be different then if every province in the country would be treated as a state, as in Federalism..
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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:53 PM   #52
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Old March 13th, 2006, 01:29 PM   #53
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id like it here: babuyan island


Nyahahahha!!!!!! Tamang tamang yan babuyan isalnds kasi mga baboy silang lahat kaya dapat dyan sila mag sama2x nyahahaha!!!!
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Old March 13th, 2006, 03:08 PM   #54
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Mainland China may be tempted to rain missiles on Taiwan because of Taiwan's saber rattling these days. Kung ililipat ang Malacanang sa Babuyan Islands ay baka tamaan si GMA ng missiles. Pag nawala si GMA ay baka humiwalay na sina Duterte.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 05:00 PM   #55
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IMO, the capital shouldn't be moved to anywhere in Mindanao. I'm sticking to Visayas as the ideal location of the the next capital. Why not Mindanao? For historical and sociocultural reasons. (incl. politics of religion)

We all know it was Cebu vs Marawi and Manila vs Jolo for centuries. The Spanish never captured the whole island except for the northern coasts and Zamboanga, Davao, and Cotabato. Moreover, the Bangsamoro and ARMM people might see this move as a final campaign to subjugate them and crush their national aspirations. (Also, we are putting our government closer to 'danger'. The government might have a hard time implementing its projects with Bangsamoro just in the other end of the national highway.) The new capital of the Strong Republic should be placed where Filipino is majority, where history and culture is strongest. Moving the capital outside Manila and still within Luzon is just waste of time. It's not signalling any change.

The benefits i see from moving the capital to Visayas (and Cebu in particular) are:

1. being in the geographic center (easy administration of Luzon in the north and closer integration to Mindanao in the south).

2. increased domestic air travel. (Cebu being an island and Visayas being an island group, the government would encourage more spending in local tourism with the thousands of officials and government employees themselves travelling to and from their constituencies/hometowns to work and represent the government.)

3. increased inter-island sea travel and shipping/RO-RO (officials and employees from neighboring Visayan islands and even Luzon and Mindanao who are trying to save their pork money would opt for this mode of transport.)

4. decongest Manila and Luzon. (Luzon & Mindanao are the 2 largest islands in area and with the largest population. Being the largest, they have the most number of provinces and administrative divisions. "Official Land travel" will be lessened and will help decongest our cities as the politicos will head to the nearest airport instead to go to the nation's capital.)

5. Linking the Visayas islands (Bridge/Tunnel) and Visayas with Luzon and Mindanao will be more realized. Iloilo(Panay)-Guimaras-Negros-Cebu with the government(imperial capital) thinking of more ways to facilitate land transpo within the neighbouring islands to be closer and accessible to more Filipinos.

If ever in Cebu Island, it should not be in Cebu City. The most ideal one should be in the northern part of Cebu island. The Bogo, Medellin, Daan Bantayan and San Remegio towns where the vast flat lands in Cebu are located and here are the advantages:

1. Very near to white sand beaches of Bantayan and Malapascua islands
2. Ro-Ro access to the Bicol Region via San Remegio-Masbate route
3. Near the cities of of Ormoc City, Bacolod City, Iloilo City, Cebu City
4. At the center of Visayas Islands / Philippines Islands
5. Vast flat lands since most areas are sugar lands.



Land area of the four towns:

Bogo - 10,545.93 Has
Daan Bantayan - 10,545.00 Has.
Medellin - 7,382.33 Has.
San Remegio - 11,978 Has

I think the combined area is 10 times bigger than Manila.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 05:36 PM   #56
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Malaysians to visit Celebration to get ideas for their new capital[/b]
http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/s...wscolumn1.html
That article was hilarious! The town of Celebration here in Florida hardly is the role model for a country's administrative capital. It's too cookie-cutter. For those who haven't got the slightest idea how Celebration looks like, watch "The Truman Show" or "Pleasantville" movies and you can imagine how Celebration looks like.
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Old March 14th, 2006, 02:20 AM   #57
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Here's my suggestion -- build a new capital on the other side of Luzon directly east of Manila and call it Bagong Katipunan.


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Old March 14th, 2006, 02:26 AM   #58
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Old March 14th, 2006, 02:26 AM   #59
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Or build a brand spanking new administrative capital on a man made island!
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Old March 14th, 2006, 02:29 AM   #60
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or a satellite capital city here in the US mwahahahhaa
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