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Old January 1st, 2015, 05:16 PM   #121
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Delta Brings Forward MAN-JFK service

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Delta starting MAN-JFK early, May 22nd instead of June 2nd as announced.

Also, the flight will now continue on to Pittsburgh with same aircraft and same flight number.
Good to start for MAN on New Years Day.
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Old January 1st, 2015, 06:48 PM   #122
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‘The Airport is currently undergoing a boom, with annual passenger increases of 7%. At this rate, it'll easily be handling 50m passengers by 2029‘.

The chances of Manchester Airport handling 50m passengers a year in any of our lifetimes is zero.
Don’t get me wrong the airport is a success, however it is to reliant on bucket and spade flights.
Bucket and spade flights are to reliant on the economy of the north of England to put bums on seats and that’s as fickle as it gets.
30/35m, possibly, but I doubt it will even get that many.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 12:33 AM   #123
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‘The Airport is currently undergoing a boom, with annual passenger increases of 7%. At this rate, it'll easily be handling 50m passengers by 2029‘.

The chances of Manchester Airport handling 50m passengers a year in any of our lifetimes is zero.
Don’t get me wrong the airport is a success, however it is to reliant on bucket and spade flights.
Bucket and spade flights are to reliant on the economy of the north of England to put bums on seats and that’s as fickle as it gets.
30/35m, possibly, but I doubt it will even get that many.
I must disagree, the days of reliance at Manchester on bucket and spade flights is long gone. Charter as a %age of movements has been in decline for many years but may well bottom out. A certain amount of these passengers have gravitated to the LCC's such as Easy, Ryanair, Jet2 et al. Equally though Manchester has a good balance of what are referred to as the legacy carriers KLM, Air France, Lufthansa as an example not ignoring of course good old British Airway.

However importantly Manchester has an ever increasing list of long haul routes the MEB3 (Emirates, Qatar, Etihad) will have 7 flights a day between them (with rumours of a 4th Emirates rotation), in addition to that there is Saudi to the Middle East. To the Far East we have Cathay Pacific and Singapore with a soon to be announced link to Beijing with Shanghai tipped to follow. Finally we have very strong North Atlantic routes with Thomas Cook, Virgin, American, United and Delta.

I am sure there are things I have missed there but hopefully you will see my point.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:53 AM   #124
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Delta / Virgin ex MAN

Delta to JFK is not a direct through service to Pittsburgh despite the same flight number, it involves a change of aircraft. A common practice with US- registered airlines.

Virgin Las Vegas is operated 3 x weekly by A346 in July and August in place of 2 x weekly B747. This is to allow the second based B747 to operate additional frequencies to Orlando. Good news and perhaps an indication of the effects of removing APD for children.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 07:10 AM   #125
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Don’t get me wrong the airport is a success, however it is to reliant on bucket and spade flights
Already covered in the main by Doberman, but, I'm assuming Gerrymanuk hasn't seen the departure board for MAN in a while to make such comments.

The majority of European capitals covered, a fair few other Euro cities to boot. An extensive long haul network to places like New York, Hong Kong, Singapore doesn't scream 'reliant on bucket and spade' to me. For example Dubai is now the top intl route? Abu Dhabi in the top 5 too.

But whatever.
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Old January 3rd, 2015, 11:05 AM   #126
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Montenegro Airlines to MAN

MAN will see Montenegro Airlines starting a new service, MAN-Podgorica the twice weekly service will start in May.,

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Old January 3rd, 2015, 08:21 PM   #127
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Wow. Manchester is quickly taking advantage of the lack of space at Heathrow!

The electrification and improved journey times through the Transpennine Express rail network, the FlyBe Manchester Aviation Hub and FlyManchester campaign should mean that the airport sees even further long-haul growth!

The airport is located well for journeys to the Midlands and North of England, North/Mid Wales and Scotland. As Heathrow and Gatwick are a nightmare 24/7, why would you fly from London?
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Old January 4th, 2015, 12:02 PM   #128
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Virgin MAN-LAS

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Virgin will use A340-600 on Thursdays Las Vegas as well as Tuesday's flight. This mean A340-600 will be based Mon-Fri in July and August.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #129
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Emirates to Operate 2nd Daily A380 MAN-DXB

Emirate have announced they will operate a 2nd daily A380 service on the EK 19/20 evening service MAN-DXB with effect from 1st Feb 2015.

Emerates operate 3 services daily on this route.

This really is superb news for MAN.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 01:03 AM   #130
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Emirates to Operate 2nd Daily A380 MAN-DXB

Emirate have announced they will operate a 2nd daily A380 service on the EK 19/20 evening service MAN-DXB with effect from 1st Feb 2015.

Emerates operate 3 services daily on this route.

This really is superb news for MAN.
Who are these thousands of people travelling between Manchester and UAE every day?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 11:29 AM   #131
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Interesting question Bert, many passengers use DXB as a hub in other words connecting to other EK flights down to Australia, the Far East and so on which is exactly what EK had on mind, a percentage of course will also terminate their journey in DXB -expats, contractors etc. What we must also remember is that MAN draws on a massive catchment area, not only the North West of England, but Yorskshire, parts of the Midlands, Merseyside, way up into Cumbria, etc etc, so in terms of passenger numbers there so no shortage of where to draw from.

However the other big big part of many airlines profit margins comes from something that generally we don't think about, and that's Cargo ! Cargo is big business, and I would imagine freight out to the Middle East is huge, so hope that gives you a snap shot of where some of the demand comes from.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 11:48 AM   #132
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BA has given up MAN. Same like BHX. Just a few Asian carriers flying to those cities nonstop from their hubs.

EK as well as QR, EY and TK catching those passengers (with their up-to date aircrafts; good service + inflight entertainment, free wifi etc.) and routing them via their (brand new, modern) hubs to various destinations in Asia/Australia as well as Africa (to those destinations where BA, AF, KL, LH not flying to). You can choose changing in LHR, CDG, FRA or AMS or go a bit shopping, relaxing etc. at DXB or DOH. Well, time is changing.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #133
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Going East, Manchester's network is now looking nothing short of amazing for a 'regional' airport.

4 weekly Jeddah on B777
14 weekly Doha on A330
7 weekly Singapore on B77W
14 weekly Abu Dhabi on B77W/A330
21 weekly Dubai on B77W and 2xA388
4 weekly Hong Kong on B77W
21 weekly Istanbul on A321/A319/A330
5 weekly Islamabad on B777
2 weekly Lahore on B77W

Soon to be joined by

5 weekly Beijing on A330

Like I say, not bad at all.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 04:35 PM   #134
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Going East, Manchester's network is now looking nothing short of amazing for a 'regional' airport.

4 weekly Jeddah on B777
14 weekly Doha on A330
7 weekly Singapore on B77W
14 weekly Abu Dhabi on B77W/A330
21 weekly Dubai on B77W and 2xA388
4 weekly Hong Kong on B77W
21 weekly Istanbul on A321/A319/A330
5 weekly Islamabad on B777
2 weekly Lahore on B77W

Soon to be joined by

5 weekly Beijing on A330

Like I say, not bad at all.
Impressive growth.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 07:53 PM   #135
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Going East, Manchester's network is now looking nothing short of amazing for a 'regional' airport.

4 weekly Jeddah on B777
14 weekly Doha on A330
7 weekly Singapore on B77W
14 weekly Abu Dhabi on B77W/A330
21 weekly Dubai on B77W and 2xA388
4 weekly Hong Kong on B77W
21 weekly Istanbul on A321/A319/A330
5 weekly Islamabad on B777
2 weekly Lahore on B77W

Soon to be joined by

5 weekly Beijing on A330

Like I say, not bad at all.

MAN is incredibly successful east bound,transatlantic are good, but east bound is amazing.

Any more news yet on the new PEK service dates?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 08:02 PM   #136
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MAN is not regional. But looking at this area it should be much bigger!

JED, LHE and ISB are point-point.

4/7 HKG, 5/7 PEK and SIN via MUC are not good enough to compete with EK, EY, QR and TK with their at least double daily services. Passengers have a greater choice of destinations and are more flexible by chosing their flights. Not only by choosing of the weekday, also choosing if they want a morning, afternoon or night flight.

Time will tell if CX, SQ, MH ... will continue expanding into Europe or if traffic will go via DXB, DOH, AUH or IST instead?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 08:14 PM   #137
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HKG will go daily later in the year we know already. PEK will be a new service so makes sense to operate 5 weekly to begin with, SIN is a very successful route for Singapore Airlines has has been operating it for many years. EK, EY etc do extremely well in the markets they are attracting.

We as we are a non London Airport we ARE classed as a Regional Airport World rep is quite correct.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 08:57 PM   #138
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Who are these thousands of people travelling between Manchester and UAE every day?
People connecting to other destinations via Dubai.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #139
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Cathay flights in 1st week January very full with only 1 under 300 and 3 full others all
over 320 pax
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Old January 8th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #140
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Emirates 2nd Daily MAN-DXB A380 Service-More Info...

http://www.emirates.com/uk/english/a...79642&offset=0

This will see Emirates operating 2 x A380, and 1 x 777 Daily
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