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Old July 14th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #61
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I'd love to see this silver paint the city is overrun with?
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #62
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Excellent news.
I understand that an agreement with the City of London planning authorities has been reached to develop a 40 storeys skyscraper to replace the existing plain ugly low-rise buildings.
However, it seems that this new planned skyscraper falls into the sightline of St Pauls. I am therefore a little bit confused. Any clarification are welcome in that respect.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 03:36 PM   #63
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Excellent news.
I understand that an agreement with the City of London planning authorities has been reached to develop a 40 storeys skyscraper to replace the existing plain ugly low-rise buildings.
However, it seems that this new planned skyscraper falls into the sightline of St Pauls. I am therefore a little bit confused. Any clarification are welcome in that respect.
Every tall building falls into a sightline of St. Pauls from somewhere. If we used this excuse every time, no buildings would go up in the City!
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Old July 14th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #64
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we need some lights in the city, i.e buildings that light up beautiful, something like this, hope we get some lights !

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_Towers_2.jpg
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Old July 14th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #65
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Location and massing in the City. Height set at 165m.

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Old July 15th, 2012, 12:48 AM   #66
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Which sight-line must it avoid? Is there a map/site to see it?
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Old July 15th, 2012, 03:49 AM   #67
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Apparently renders are coming out next week!!
KPF's work is quite nice, so this is promising. This is a nice tower they did in Italy.

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Old July 15th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #68
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This is an interesting report I found which talk's about the site and gives some interesting data about it:

http://www.dracoproperty.com/52-54%2...l%20Street.pdf
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Old July 15th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #69
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This is an interesting report I found which talk's about the site and gives some interesting data about it:

http://www.dracoproperty.com/52-54%2...l%20Street.pdf
Is that a conformed render on page 26 & 27? I thought they would redevelop the building next to it too ie the whole northern area of the 'block'.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #70
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Is that a conformed render on page 26 & 27? I thought they would redevelop the building next to it too ie the whole northern area of the 'block'.
I hope not :

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Old July 16th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #71
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i like it but its not 40 floors
it would be nice to have a roof garden on top tho
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Old July 16th, 2012, 11:48 AM   #72
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we need tall buildings in the city not mid rises.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #73
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According to this http://www.hayesdavidson.com/LaL/lvmf2009flashmap/ it is in the sightline from St James park. http://www.singleaspect.org.uk/wp-co...auls_views.jpg has sightlines for St Pauls which don't include this site. What (/whose) policy is the Fleet St sight line?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #74
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Hmm, this thread needs a tweak to the subject, methinks! "10 fl"
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:48 PM   #75
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This is an interesting report I found which talk's about the site and gives some interesting data about it:

http://www.dracoproperty.com/52-54%2...l%20Street.pdf
That PDF is dated February 2011. Looks like an old proposal. Still has some interesting information though.

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average floor to floor height for such an office tower is actually 4.1 metres.
Is that including lobby’s, plant floors and architectural features into the average? 165 meters sounds about right when looking at the original proposal height for 100 Bishopsgate, but this site is much more constrained both in foot print and because of the sight line. I think whatever is proposed will be over the 170 meter mark because of this.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 01:15 PM   #76
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That rendering is just an old illustration ...
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Old July 16th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #77
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Lol only Delores could complain about a square with LLoyds, 122LH, The Gherkin and hopefully the Pinnacle popping into view shared with a 500 year old Church and call it a dark canyon.

The current buildings , built in the 1950's are nothing special and given the choice I think a 190m tower would trump them any time. The vast majority of buildings built in the City post war (including most proposals today) are stone framed and most are mundane and dire. Most of the decent Stone buildings are in conservation areas and listed so its not as if the City is about to be overrun by canyons of dark glass and silver paint any time soon.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #78
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From fleet Street, this tower will be hidden by St Pauls itself.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 11:44 PM   #79
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That rendering is just an old illustration ...
The rendering is included in a property sales document designed to illustrate to potential purchasers the form and scale of redevelopment currently possible. that's all - its simply a schematic prepared by KPF. If the new site owners have subsequently agreed (in principle) a 40 floor office building for the site with the City of London, then they have negotiated very well and significantly increased the development potential and value of the property. It may well be that because KPF were familiar with the site in c.2010m that this may be the reason why they were engaged to prepare a design for a 40 floor high rise.
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Old July 20th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #80
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I thought renders were supposed to be released this week? I hope that tiny glass box is not the "40floor" building
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