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Old July 20th, 2012, 08:47 PM   #81
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its was this week or next week there no actual date just speculation
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Old July 29th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #82
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Still no renders? Sorry to bump the thread
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Old July 30th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #83
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If it is 40 floors it will have the biggest height to footprint of any tower in London... The site looks a bit small to me.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 12:13 PM   #84
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Hopefully that will make for a nice slender box, and not another 'landmark' design. The city needs more filler...
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Old August 14th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #85
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One assumes that planning discussions/negotiations are in process, possibly involving redesign, hence the delays.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #86
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Looks like this is the planning application.

12/06379/OBS | Application made under the provisions of the Town and Country Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) (England and Wales) Regulations 2011 to redevelop the 52-54 Lime Street and 34 - 35 Leadenhall Street with a new office tower comprising approximately 58,000sq.m gross external floor space. The development would comprise with one building with to 34 floors, rising to approximately 206m AOD. | Lime Street City Of London London EC3M 7QD

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Old August 15th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #87
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that makes it 192.1 metres AGL. for 34 floors that's a hell of a lot of height, i wonder what architectural feature it has to bump it up.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 08:44 PM   #88
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Maybe we will see a decent crown on this?
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Old August 15th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #89
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that's what i'm hoping for... a skyscraper in the city with an actual crown.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #90
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Looks like this is the planning application.

12/06379/OBS | Application made under the provisions of the Town and Country Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) (England and Wales) Regulations 2011 to redevelop the 52-54 Lime Street and 34 - 35 Leadenhall Street with a new office tower comprising approximately 58,000sq.m gross external floor space. The development would comprise with one building with to 34 floors, rising to approximately 206m AOD. | Lime Street City Of London London EC3M 7QD

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Odd that this is on Westminster's planning site. This site is clearly in the CoL's jurisdiction. Their planning website is being rather flakey right now, so can't dig up details on it. Annoying.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #91
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Odd that this is on Westminster's planning site. This site is clearly in the CoL's jurisdiction.
Good point. Paying closer attention its lodged with "Environmental Impact Assessment" so maybe they have added 30 odd meters to allow for a reduction in hight for when they object? Will this be any more visible from a park in Westminster then any other tower in the vicinity?
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Old August 15th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #92
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Wow 192 meters! Looks like my massing guestimate was about right. That is insanely tall for a 34 storey building. It is possible that it could be passed at that height, it is literally across the road from the Leadenhall building after all. If the height does infringe on the view from a park in Westminster it will be less so than the cheesegrater.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #93
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maybe it will have a roof garden with some trees and greenery in it
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Old August 16th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #94
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Wow 192 meters! Looks like my massing guestimate was about right. That is insanely tall for a 34 storey building. .
Allow 4.5m/floor x 34 = 138m therefore 54m extra, perhaps the first floor is significantly above grade as with 122 Leadenhall, and/or perhaps mechanical spaces are vertically stacked with a spire/finial type element at the top, or perhaps its a very tall pole type element; no doubt we'll find out shortly.
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a new office tower comprising approximately 58,000sq.m gross external floor space. The development would comprise with one building with to 34 floors, rising to approximately 206m AOD
I just did a quick take-off from gmaps. The site itself has an area of about 1,900mē. The stated gross external of 58,000mē divided by 34 floors gives an area of about 1,700mē per floor (assuming a prismatic shape). Part of the site gets very close indeed to Willis - this part is almost exactly 200mē, therefore leaving 1,700mē to be extruded upwards. Assuming these constraints leaves no room for a particularly fancy sculptural shape.



So what on earth is on top of this simple shape to take the AOD to 206m?
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Old August 16th, 2012, 02:47 PM   #96
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It's going to do a NYT Building trick...

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Old August 16th, 2012, 06:00 PM   #97
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Maybe the roof is slanted?
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Old August 16th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #98
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that building is so bad why just why did they stick that pole on it
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Old August 16th, 2012, 08:52 PM   #99
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I love it, has some serious vertical emphasis which NYC does so well.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:20 PM   #100
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I don't mind the loss of the buildings highlighted - they're very dull.

But it had better be a good building. This little cluster in the city is finally banishing the bad taste left by the crap that went up in previous decades. The Lloyd's building set the bar high, and recent additions seem to lend additional interest to the area.
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