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Old September 5th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #121
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The good thing about this is it is client led, like the Gherkin there is less chance of it being dumbed down and more chance it will built when they say it will so hopefully just as 122LH & 20FC finish we can look forward to work starting on this in 2013, something we can’t say for certainty with 100BG & the Pinnacle (although I can see Heron Plaza kicking off by 2013 as well). One thing for sure by 2015 the City Skyline will have made a remarkable transformation from 2011, when Heron really began to make a mark on the skyline, now swiftly followed by 122LH & 20FC.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 02:35 PM   #122
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No idea what is going on in this render, but anyway.

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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #123
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No idea what is going on in this render, but anyway.

badly resized... lots of moire. ugh.

anyway here's a better image than what's been put up here

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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:17 PM   #124
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It's a great pity that WR Berkley could not have selected the Pinnacle as their HQ. Their requirement would have seen over half the building pre-let/occupied and would have stimulated a restart of this building. After all, it is a stone's throw from Lloyds and up next to AON. It's also a KPF designed building with its foundations in place. I also feel that wedging in the proposed building on such a small footprint - a sort of glass tombstone - up against Willis is not the best and most resourceful location for such a large - high building. I also fear that the south facade may have an ugly lift shaft enclosure , a la Broadgate Tower.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:26 PM   #125
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I also fear that the south facade may have an ugly lift shaft enclosure , a la Broadgate Tower.
We'll see what is proposed but yes this is where the lift shaft is located.

"Floor plates will range in size from 9,000 sq ft to 22,000 sq ft and are arranged around a side core located to the south of the building, which optimises floor plate dimensions, limits solar gain and offers views of London to the, north, east, west and south west."
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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #126
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Good to see an image of this proposal. First impression is that it looks interesting, though its important to see how this design looks from various angles as well as how does it work at grade. I assume that the City planners have worked with KPF to ensure a design they will support, so maybe this will move quickly with demolition and sub-surface construction starting in 2013 - a new high rise starting when Leadenhall and 20 Fenchurch Street have topped out.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:36 PM   #127
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The spires are returning to the London skyline. Has any one else notiched nearly every proposal is spiry-pointy like on top (except 100 bg)
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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #128
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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #129
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We'll see what is proposed but yes this is where the lift shaft is located.

"Floor plates will range in size from 9,000 sq ft to 22,000 sq ft and are arranged around a side core located to the south of the building, which optimises floor plate dimensions, limits solar gain and offers views of London to the, north, east, west and south west."
Just what I noticed - no views to the south and NO impressions yet of the south facing side. This could prove a disappointment, since that is the angle from which most viewers will observe e.g. the river. I'm thinking on the lines of the west facing side of Broadgate Tower with its cumbersome additions.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:59 PM   #130
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Is it pointy or flat at the top?

If flat... I dub thee skyscraper 'the chisel'.

That square (above) is a great place to stand in if you are a skyscraper and architecture fan.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #131
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Is it pointy or flat at the top?

If flat... I dub thee skyscraper 'the chisel'.

That square (above) is a great place to stand in if you are a skyscraper and architecture fan.
This square really is mind blowing in the variety of architecture if you think about it, I totally agree.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #132
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It is a pointy top, you can tell by the floor plates at the very top.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:15 PM   #133
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If this and the Pinnacle get built, we will have two KPF buildings, two Richard Rogers buildings, and two Lord Foster buildings all visible from that little square. Not forgetting St Helens, and that little church which survived the Great Fire of London, the Blitz and the IRA bomb down the road!
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:18 PM   #134
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Its a shame that with so many interesting buildings around it, that open space is one of the least inspiring spaces in terms of its landscaping and finish. Hopefully somebody will refurbish this at some point...!
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:22 PM   #135
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I'd actually prefer that the lowrise buildings remained over that Just don't think it is the right location for a tower. I think the view from that location is miles better with an intact view of Lime street, together with it giving a little air and space to what is slowly becoming a rather dense cluster of talls around the square. It'd look far better at Canary wharf, just too overbearing for its location.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #136
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No idea what is going on in this render, but anyway.

A (slightly) better quality version:



Though it's still hard to tell what's going on. 122 Leadenhall doesn't look right to me.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:15 PM   #137
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its a shame there seems to be no roof garden
but i hope they make the plaza nice with lots of greenery
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #138
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Difficult for me to express an opinion based on a single render...
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #139
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its a shame there seems to be no roof garden
but i hope they make the plaza nice with lots of greenery
I'd rather have an architectural spire than a roof garden. Where exactly are you expecting there to be greenery? The site is very tight, literally pavement, then building.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #140
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London lacks a number of things, but greeny isn't really one of them. I dunno, personally I wouldn't want to see too many trees and grass bits in an area full of towers. Something wrong about the City featuring 'green' squares IMO.
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