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Old July 18th, 2012, 02:18 AM   #1
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Largest Aquarium in the world?

Hey I've noticed that online there are some discrepancies regarding this title. There seems to be a consensus that it's the Atlanta Georgia Aquarium
I haven't really seen any others mentioned for this title



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Aquarium

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How big is the Aquarium?
Aquarium size can be measured two ways. If you measure the facility by square footage, the Georgia Aquarium is 550,000 square feet. If you measure by the amount of water in all of the exhibits, the Georgia Aquarium contains just more than eight million gallons of fresh and salt water. Whether you measure it by square footage or total gallons, the Georgia Aquarium is the largest aquarium in the world.'
http://www.georgiaaquarium.org/plan-...isit/faqs.aspx

But according to wikipedia and sources on their official sites it seems to be smaller than l'Oceanografic in Valencia, Spain.

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The Oceanogrāfic of the City of Arts and Sciences invites us to discover a genuine marine park that includes representation of the main seas and oceans of the planet. With a surface area of 110,000 m2 and a volume of 42 million litres of water (equivalent to 15 Olympic swimming pools), it is the biggest aquarium in Europe.
http://www.cac.es/oceanografic/know/



So Oceanografic is 42 mill liters and 110.000 square meters
Atlanta aquarium is 30+ mill liters (8+ million gallon) and 51 097 square meters (half size, 550.000 sq ft).

So by either measure the aquarium in Valencia appears to be significantly larger, Yurop wins again!

Still Atlanta and all other sources claim Atlanta is the largest while Valencia's own site only claims to be the largest in Europe
(many other different aquariums also claim to be the largest in Europe, incl comparatively tiny ones in Istanbul). What gives?
If their own sites are correct Atlanta is not and has never been the world's largest.

Am I missing something here?

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Old July 18th, 2012, 05:04 AM   #2
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They they count this outdoor pond as an aquarium?
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That's a nice looking aquarium. What's the biggest one in the Netherlands?
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I guess it depends on "where" it's the largest. I believe L'oceanografic holds more gallons of water and total area, but Georgia Aquarium holds more marine animals and species.
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They are likely both very good and about the same size. I doubt the public would be able to tell the difference. Is there a good one in DC or NYC?
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They are likely both very good and about the same size. I doubt the public would be able to tell the difference. Is there a good one in DC or NYC?
I can't say for DC but the New York Aquarium is probably not worth the trip. The place itself is small, feels very outdated and dilapidated, the surrounding area is seedy and gritty. It's not what it was before sadly.
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They they count this outdoor pond as an aquarium?
Not as far as I know? The Ciudad the Sciencias has a lot of water troughout the complex. It's a beautiful place that I need to visit, i have visited the Georgia aquarium though. Very cool but a bit Disney like.


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That's a nice looking aquarium. What's the biggest one in the Netherlands?
Probably the Oceanium in Blijdorp Rotterdam Zoo (8+ million liters), other contenders are Burger's zoo (~8 million liters) and SeaLife (The Hague/Scheveningen) I guess. There's also a Dolfinarium.

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I guess it depends on "where" it's the largest. I believe L'oceanografic holds more gallons of water and total area, but Georgia Aquarium holds more marine animals and species.
Sure but those are not the figures Atlanta itself used to claim to be the largest in the world. What I find mostly strange is that ALL sources claim Atlanta is the largest. While if these figures are true it has never been (Georgia Aquarium was built after the one in Valencia).
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Sure but those are not the figures Atlanta itself used to claim to be the largest in the world. What I find mostly strange is that ALL sources claim Atlanta is the largest. While if these figures are true it has never been (Georgia Aquarium was built after the one in Valencia).
Well NBC was calling Michael Johnson the world's fastest man after he won the 200m sprint at the Atlanta Olympics. Things in the US are often called 'world's best/fastest/biggest' but they sometimes don't check to see if that's the case, or they know it's not but label it such anyway.
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Sure but those are not the figures Atlanta itself used to claim to be the largest in the world. What I find mostly strange is that ALL sources claim Atlanta is the largest. While if these figures are true it has never been (Georgia Aquarium was built after the one in Valencia).
The Guiness Book of Records judges it by a single exhibit in which Georgia Aquarium holds the largest which is the Ocean Voyager, built by The Home Depot, at 6.3 million gallons, 284 feet long x126 feet wide x30 feet deep in the south end and 20 feet in the north end.
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Well NBC was calling Michael Johnson the world's fastest man after he won the 200m sprint at the Atlanta Olympics. Things in the US are often called 'world's best/fastest/biggest' but they sometimes don't check to see if that's the case, or they know it's not but label it such anyway.
Really? I have seen the label fastest/biggest/tallest in America far more often I think. From a marketing standpoint it seems to me to be about as potent (because biggest/best in America and the world used to be more interchangeable), and a lot easier to verify.

So does Toronto have any decent aquariums? I know Vancouver is supposed to have one of the better ones in America (and the world ), along with Atlanta, Monterrey, San Francisco, Chicago and Baltimore.

Edit: I thought it would be fun to do a bit of a price comparison among some of the world's premier Aquaria. NA seems to be significantly more expensive than the rest in the world in this regard:

General admission prices:
Monterrey, Cali $35,
Atlanta, Georgia $35 (includes dolphin show and 3d film),
Valencia Oceanografic €25 (you can get a 3 day visit to the whole Ciudad de la Sciencas for €35 though which is probably the best value of them all and student discounts are available).
Chicago Shedd $29,
San Francisco Academy of Sciences $29 (is much more than an aquarium though so decent value, students discounts available),
Baltimore National $29 (inc dolphin show),
Vancouver $27 (students discounts available),
Osaka aquarium 2000 yen or about $25 (has whale sharks like Georgia)
Okinawa aquarium 1800 yen or about $23 (also has whale sharks)
Aquarium of Genoa €19,
Aquarium Barcelona €18,
Sydney Aquarium $20
Singapore Underwater world $20
Lisbon Oceanario €16 (great value as it's also supposed to be one of the best),

Seems like Valencia is going to lose it's title this year anyway btw twice as big:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Life_Park

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Seems like Valencia is going to lose it's title this year anyway btw twice as big:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Life_Park

LOL. L'Oceanografic doesn't hold the title, and never once did. America didn't claim Georgia Aquarium was the largest. Guinness did. They base the title on a single exhibit/pool of water/aquarium etc., not total gallons of water.
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Well NBC was calling Michael Johnson the world's fastest man after he won the 200m sprint at the Atlanta Olympics. Things in the US are often called 'world's best/fastest/biggest' but they sometimes don't check to see if that's the case, or they know it's not but label it such anyway.

Quite a generalization there. The problem with your argument and topic at hand is, Georgia Aquarium actually has a legit record - it just didn't come from somebody's ass
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Quite a generalization there. The problem with your argument and topic at hand is, Georgia Aquarium actually has a legit record - it just didn't come from somebody's ass
It is a generalization, but perceptions are built over years of observation and when you live next door you hear these claims from a neutral perspective. The US is a huge powerful country and their is a tendency to assume that what is biggest/best in the US must be the biggest/best in the world. You learn to take it all with a grain of salt rather than literally. I'm sure the Chinese are prone to the same tendencies.

Georgia Aquarium may very well be the biggest, but my comment was in response to his confusion based on the data he presented. I've learned not to take certain claims as fact, but marketing/myth/notion/etc unless I've actually researched something myself. That said, I'm more interested in seeing the aquarium than getting into a pissing contest.
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So does Toronto have any decent aquariums? I know Vancouver is supposed to have one of the better ones in America (and the world ), along with Atlanta, Monterrey, San Francisco, Chicago and Baltimore.
Up till now there have only been exhibits at the Toronto Zoo. I visited last week and there isn't much to see. Marineland is an hour down the highway in Niagara Falls. It's combination marine park/amusement park, but I've never been there. They have orcas, killer whales, belugas, and non-marine animals mixed in with rollercoasters and other rides.

Toronto is in the midst of building an aquarium at the base of the CN Tower. It looks to be about medium sized as far as aquariums go: 14,000 sq m (150,000 sq ft). Here are some construction photos and a link to a thread:



http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthr...3s-B-H)/page72

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LOL. L'Oceanografic doesn't hold the title, and never once did. America didn't claim Georgia Aquarium was the largest. Guinness did. They base the title on a single exhibit/pool of water/aquarium etc., not total gallons of water.
What are you talking about? That's the title largest single exhibit not aquarium. Maybe Georgia is the largest aquarium, but that can only be true if there's something seriously wrong with the figures on their offical sites. What Guinness says about a single tank or whatever has no bearing on it.

Edit: And yes Atlanta does claim to be the largest, WITHOUT referencing the meaningless Guinness statistic in question but referencing two other logically relevant statistics (total volume of water and square footage) in which it seems like it's actually smaller than Valencia.

Honestly this is like saying Six Flags Great Adventure is the largest theme park in the world because it has the tallest coaster :s

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It looks like the La Concha Motel which opened in Las Vegas in 1961. The architect was Paul Williams who also designed the Theme Building @ LAX. Clearly the buildings inspiration comes from the conch shell.

La Concha Motel is no longer in operation but the structure was transferred Dowtown to be part of the Neon Museum.
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I'm sure Valencia and the Georgia Aquarium are both great, so what does the record matter? They're just trying to market their facility.
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I just thought it was interesting that this particular record is reported mistakenly everywhere it is mentioned. At least that's what it looks like.
For example imagine if we found out that the Ostankino tower was actually taller than the CN tower, obviously a bigger deal but I'm just trying to make an analogy.

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It looks like the La Concha Motel which opened in Las Vegas in 1961. The architect was Paul Williams who also designed the Theme Building @ LAX.
Clearly the buildings inspiration comes from the conch shell.

La Concha Motel is no longer in operation but the structure was transferred Dowtown to be part of the Neon Museum.
You are right! That's a cool bit of trivia. Btw the Aquarium (and it's actuallly underground there those are just the entrances I think)
is just a small part of the amazing Ciudad the Sciences complex. It's like a 22nd century version of EPCOT.
I really need to visit.



http://scm-wet-dry.blogspot.nl/2010/...a-bagnata.html


http://www.ojodigital.com/foro/urban...-ciencias.html




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It is a generalization, but perceptions are built over years of observation and when you live next door you hear these claims from a neutral perspective. The US is a huge powerful country and their is a tendency to assume that what is biggest/best in the US must be the biggest/best in the world. You learn to take it all with a grain of salt rather than literally. I'm sure the Chinese are prone to the same tendencies.

Georgia Aquarium may very well be the biggest, but my comment was in response to his confusion based on the data he presented. I've learned not to take certain claims as fact, but marketing/myth/notion/etc unless I've actually researched something myself. That said, I'm more interested in seeing the aquarium than getting into a pissing contest.
If this is true, then why start a pissing contest? You must know that such a negative comment will get negative responses...and your disdain for Americans is well-documented on this site.
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There must be some underlying reason for this...the "world's largest aquarium" thing is not only coming from the U.S., because in all of the information I can find on Oceanografic there is no such claim to fame. Surely if it were true they would advertise it as such...anything less would be a big error in marketing. I'm curious to find out the reason.
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